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To think Britain is heading towards economical and social collapse

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Cheesecakeandwineinasuitcase · 30/07/2022 05:28

It feels like we are living in strange times, having come out of a global pandemic, the war in Ukraine and now the cost of living crisis and the added pressure from Brexit.

Ive barely slept tonight, worrying about what might happen with energy prices. I’ve heard the energy price cap is expected to rise to £3,850 in October. A few months ago I’m sure they predicting it would be £2,400 and that was horrifying enough.
Now I’m seeing people on the energy support Facebook group talking about monthly energy costs of £900 per month. It feels like this is escalating out of control very quickly and the Government are allowing us to sleepwalk into a disaster.

I realised tonight that if the price cap does keep increasing at the rate it has then what will happen to all the businesses once people can’t afford their energy bills anymore? They will probably increase their prices to try and cover their costs but that will drive down sales even more as people won’t have as much money to spend anymore. Eventually it will only be the essentials that we can afford so that surely means that all the other businesses won’t be able to afford to keep going?

Then what? Unless our government actually get their heads together about this then the whole country will end up in financial ruin and we will see the breakdown of society. Why so much focus on the leadership contest, surely that must take a back step.

Ive just checked the parliament website and the House of Commons has now gone into summer recess so they won’t meet again until September! I think this is an emergency situation and that they should be called back to focus on this. They get paid enough.

I think it’s outrageous that they can claim for utility bills on their expenses when there are people out there with young children who are worried about being cut off and put onto a prepayment meter.

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Blossomtoes · 02/08/2022 13:19

My local hospital will be paying over £16 million pounds every year until 2043 for a £148 million pound new wing that will have cost them £766 million when it’s finally paid off.

In which case that contract will have been entered into at some point in the last 12 years - ie during the time the Tories have been in power.

Blossomtoes · 02/08/2022 13:23

Added to which those figures don’t work - no PFI contract runs for nearly 50 years.

Capri3 · 02/08/2022 13:39

Blossomtoes · 02/08/2022 13:19

My local hospital will be paying over £16 million pounds every year until 2043 for a £148 million pound new wing that will have cost them £766 million when it’s finally paid off.

In which case that contract will have been entered into at some point in the last 12 years - ie during the time the Tories have been in power.

It was opened in 2010, so definitely a Labour PFI. Which makes it 33 years, not 50 years.

IIRC Labour signed a lot of new PFI contracts in their last years in government. The Tories obviously couldn’t just cancel the contracts when they came into power as that’s not possible.

AndreaC74 · 02/08/2022 13:51

Capri3 · 02/08/2022 13:39

It was opened in 2010, so definitely a Labour PFI. Which makes it 33 years, not 50 years.

IIRC Labour signed a lot of new PFI contracts in their last years in government. The Tories obviously couldn’t just cancel the contracts when they came into power as that’s not possible.

PFI was finally got rid of in 2018, 8 years after the Tories had been in power, so don't be so sure all these current contracts where signed off under Labour, vast majority were 25 years.

In regard to health, 1.4 billion were entered into under Labour and 0.6 billion under the Tories.

PFI has been used by both parties for infrastructure but the majority has been under Labour.

But at least we got new hospitals out of it, with no PFI, maybe you'd still be stuck with your old hospital?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 02/08/2022 14:49

Yeah, I’d still be teaching in a room which grew such massive fungi the kids were scared to come in if it hadn’t been for PFI

Blossomtoes · 02/08/2022 15:01

Which makes it 33 years, not 50 years

In which case your figures don’t stack up. And PFI contracts are 25 years. So forgive me for not giving this much credence.

Capri3 · 02/08/2022 17:02

Blossomtoes · 02/08/2022 15:01

Which makes it 33 years, not 50 years

In which case your figures don’t stack up. And PFI contracts are 25 years. So forgive me for not giving this much credence.

PFI contracts were typically 25 to 30 years, but not all. You’re welcome to google the PFI contract for Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford if you want. It’s my local hospital, and all of the details I have given are available online.

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