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Screaming child in tent next door

412 replies

Sittininafield · 29/07/2022 05:07

AIBU to think the parents are selfish knob heads. Fourth night in a row. Toddler screams from 10.30 till 11.30 ish every night and then periodically every couple of hours. Not sad baby crying but toddler tantrum screaming and shouting. I am beginning to think it is the spawn of satan. Why would you go camping if your child doesn’t sleep, and why wouldn’t you go home out of consideration for others after a couple of nights? They are quite now but I’m awake since the last screams at 3.30. Should I go and shake their tent in sleep deprived, demented re-wenge?

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Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 29/07/2022 09:18

@anotherbrewplease
you didn’t think it was Oscar Wilde! You invented a much more interesting sounding person : Mr Oscar Wilder. Wilder still and Wilder, as they don’t quite sing at the Last Night of the Proms…..I wonder what he got up to?

xxx

OhmygodDont · 29/07/2022 09:19

I do love the fact people presume camping is cheap. Get a £1,000 big air tent, book a £800 per week site in Cornwall and you’ve still got to fill that tent with stuff to sleep on and cook on. Plus a big enough car/trailer to haul it all around in.

I do wonder if this is some kinda of haven holidays kinda camp site. They do tend to have those who are less than respectful campers. Never took my children when they where at the scream though the night ages.

CallOnMe · 29/07/2022 09:20

YABU I’m sure they’re not delighted with the screaming child either considering they’re right next to it!

I completely feel your pain but you’re acting like they’re choosing to have screaming child and you going round there will stop it - it won’t.

Unhomme · 29/07/2022 09:20

DelisButAlsoCrime · 29/07/2022 07:09

As well as being Sartre and not Oscar Wilde, it doesn’t really mean what it sounds like it means - it’s about being trapped by the apprehension others have of you, rather than it being “hell” to be with other people.

(I had this mansplained to me by my otherwise lovely husband when I used it incorrectly; so just passing it on in turn!)

I thought mansplaining was when a man explains what you already know?

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 29/07/2022 09:23

If I ever go away to a strange place I always bring:

earplugs (gel are my preferred)
eye mask
lavender oil/other sleep spray aid

It's funny that when I've been away with others sometimes don't seem to think if you share a room/in a strange place that there might be noise/light pollution then you might not sleep well.

surreygirl1987 · 29/07/2022 09:26

Should I go and shake their tent in sleep deprived, demented re-wenge? YABVU

Brefugee · 29/07/2022 09:28

However, if you are a known super loud snorer, if you know that your kids are going through a particularly restless cranky phase or you are incapable of not playing music and drinking loudly after 11pm then maybe you should consider that camping is not for you rather then expecting everyone else to just 'suck it up'.

Thank you, i was beginning to think i was in an alternate reality.
Thousands upon thousands of us had children and didn't: take the baby to the cinema and then tell everyone to fuck off when it cried; didn't take screamy toddlers to Michelin starred restaruants and then kick off loudly when the patron asked them to leave; didn't take children to the opera and complain loudly when people told them to stop talking; etc etc

The fact is that yes, children are loud. And yes, they change your life. And yes, if you go camping it can be a bit noisy. What it shouldn't be is noisy every night due to a child that isn't suited to camping. And you shouldn't have to move, leave, or buy earplugs just because some parents are entitled twats.

During the day the noise of children playing, squabbling etc is fine. That is a campsite, and you also have loud adults, drunk adults, adults with questionable taste in music and a boom box. But at night? Any of that needs to be nipped in the bud. And for things that can't be nipped in the bud? if you are causing the disturbance it is on you to leave.

womaninatightspot · 29/07/2022 09:29

It is I came back from a camping trip to loch Tay yesterday. Plenty of parking, a kids play park, picnic tables, designated bbq spots, a clean portaloo, beach and a loch that’s nice and shallow for kids to play in. Didn’t hear a peep after bedtime.

If it wasn’t for the midgies it’d be perfect!

DillonPanthersTexas · 29/07/2022 09:31

I thought mansplaining was when a man explains what you already know?

It used to mean that, but for some it has kind of evolved to be a catchall slur to any bloke who has expressed a factually correct opinion in a respectful non patronising manner to someone who was previously unaware of said facts.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 29/07/2022 09:33

Honestly I could have lamped her - I don’t know what the fuck she expected me to do that I hadn’t already tried! If you choose to go camping you go with the knowledge that tents aren’t soundproof!!

She probably wanted to lamp you. And, it's pretty obvious. The trip on which you discover that 'Chucky' isn't a happy camper should be in your back garden or somewhere more private.

takealettermsjones · 29/07/2022 09:35

There's an enormous world of difference between taking a screaming child to a Michelin starred restaurant and taking a child to a family campsite.

If your idea of camping is waking up to the dawn chorus and a babbling brook with no other sounds to be heard, then you want wild camping, not site camping.

ReallyDoc · 29/07/2022 09:35

Mysaucepanbroke · 29/07/2022 08:42

It’s like the beginning of park run. Getting your heels knocked about by a running Dad behind you pushing a buggy with a screaming child inside.

Why can’t parents realise they have new responsibilities which may involve hobbies being put on hold for a year or two.

Its just another level of performance parenting for that one Instagram “look, we’re an outdoorsy family” photo

😂 it’s so fake!

Too bloody right.....we need parents to give more stuff up....Parents should be expected to give up their hobbies for the first couple of years. And don't go camping in case other people can hear. But don't go abroad because no one wants your kid on the plane. Also stay away from decent restaurants because other people don't want your brat near them while they eat. Don't take them on park run or any kind of run. Don't you dare take that big buggy down the high street taking up all the room. Oh also isn't it annoying when mums get together in coffee shops with their braying babies. And whatever you do...do not put a smug picture of you or your baby on Instagram. I don't care how proud you feel.

Honestly!! Give it a rest. And we wonder why so many new mums struggling with isolation and feeling disconnected???

Kids are noisy. We need them. Parents should be considerate but they are allowed to be out and about making noise.

alsonotmyname · 29/07/2022 09:36

I'm about to pack the car up to go now and you've all made me scared I'll snore 💤 I do sometimes (not always) does that mean my children should miss out on something they're really looking forward to?

HelloSpringIveMissedYou · 29/07/2022 09:37

Still trying to get my head around the poster taking their 1 month old camping Confused

takealettermsjones · 29/07/2022 09:38

ReallyDoc · 29/07/2022 09:35

Too bloody right.....we need parents to give more stuff up....Parents should be expected to give up their hobbies for the first couple of years. And don't go camping in case other people can hear. But don't go abroad because no one wants your kid on the plane. Also stay away from decent restaurants because other people don't want your brat near them while they eat. Don't take them on park run or any kind of run. Don't you dare take that big buggy down the high street taking up all the room. Oh also isn't it annoying when mums get together in coffee shops with their braying babies. And whatever you do...do not put a smug picture of you or your baby on Instagram. I don't care how proud you feel.

Honestly!! Give it a rest. And we wonder why so many new mums struggling with isolation and feeling disconnected???

Kids are noisy. We need them. Parents should be considerate but they are allowed to be out and about making noise.

Yes, and then wasn't there a thread not too long ago where countless people were calling other mums "martyrs" and saying "you just get your child to fit in around you, get on with it, I took my little darlings to art museums in Venice"

OhmygodDont · 29/07/2022 09:42

alsonotmyname · 29/07/2022 09:36

I'm about to pack the car up to go now and you've all made me scared I'll snore 💤 I do sometimes (not always) does that mean my children should miss out on something they're really looking forward to?

You can get nasel strips to help, also a good sinus tablet and lay off the booze all help for a snore less slumber. Also make your bed as good as you can the worse the air bed the more likely you are snore.

we have a family member who snores like a jet at home does the above and not a peep them camping.

Badger1970 · 29/07/2022 09:45

We stayed on a gorgeous site many years ago near Chesil Beach. There was a great play area, the shower blocks/toilets were immaculately clean and all the tents were well spaced apart. Our kids were 6, 8 and 11. We thought it was fab until darkness fell. Then all you could hear were screaming toddlers/babies, then followed by warthog snoring Dads. And at first light when you'd eventually dropped into an exhausted slumber, the little fuckers were wide awake and ready to start the day. After 2 nights, we packed the car up at 6am and drove the 200 miles home. From then on, we stuck to letting the kids camp out in the back garden.

It takes a hardier soul than me to camp. I applaud anyone who can endure it.

Ohthatsexciting · 29/07/2022 09:47

Oh I love a mumsnet camping thread

makes me appreciate even more the AI five star all signing and all dancing holidays that I splurge on (and laugh when maligned by mumsnet campers!)

DillonPanthersTexas · 29/07/2022 09:48

If your idea of camping is waking up to the dawn chorus and a babbling brook with no other sounds to be heard, then you want wild camping, not site camping.

Nobody here is demanding absolute silence on a campsite so I am not sure why this narrative is being pushed out by some on here. What people are asking is that you exercise a bit of consideration for others when you choose to go communal camping. If for whatever reason you are incapable of being reasonably quiet then perhaps you should consider an alternative holiday.

Your dog barks all night - don't take it camping
You have a foghorn snoring problem - go wild camping and not communal
Your toddler is going through a restless phase, can't sleep and cries for hours - don't go communal camping
You can only fall asleep to Rage Against the Machine at full tilt - don't go communal camping
You want to amputate your foot without anesthetic with a rusty saw - don't go communal camping

It's not hard.

Topseyt123 · 29/07/2022 09:49

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2022 06:28

Why would anyone go camping in the first place is the question that puzzles me

Me too.

Fatballs · 29/07/2022 09:49

We are camping now. We have set up our tent in the field as far away from the other tents as we could get it. I just hope it stays that way.

We drove past another site nearby and it looks like a festival with 100s of tents in serried rows, crammed in cheek by jowl. Not for us.

Artichokeleaves · 29/07/2022 09:50

Every sympathy. I was a few feet away last year from a toddler in a tent that clearly hated camping, began expressing her displeasure about it all around 5am and didn't really stop much until past eleven at night. I lived for that family going out off the site.

I could only think they were all so used to the child's screaming that they didn't really notice it, but I kept wondering why they'd inflict days of camping on a child who was so very unhappy and not settling, and not think about the experience of everyone else around them.

kirinm · 29/07/2022 09:50

One hour of screaming at 10.30 whilst annoying is hardly holiday destroying. Obviously not particularly fun to have to listen to but I think YABU to expect the parents to just up and leave when the majority of the time the child is fine.

Fatballs · 29/07/2022 09:51

Why would anyone go camping in the first place is the question that puzzles me

Late decision to join our extended family on holiday in a very popular seaside place. Absolutely no chance of getting any other type of accommodation.

Panatone · 29/07/2022 09:54

@Ohthatsexciting You really you should be ashamed of yourself!! Splurge on holidays you say. That would be like having too much fun.!

You need to be in a sodden field In a leaky tent with wet gear a plenty for all those bracing walks in the rain, and have a very earnest expression at all times. Oh and it needs to cost 50 p for a family of five! for a week! 😀

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