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To ask if the word "sitting" has fallen out of use completely?

151 replies

LaPerduta · 28/07/2022 17:29

See also "lying" and "standing".

I realise there are dialects and that this is Mumsnet, not an academic assignment, but I hardly ever see "sitting" being used when - dare I say it - it should be.

Do I need to move with the times?

OP posts:
LaPerduta · 28/07/2022 22:00

Marleymoo42 · 28/07/2022 21:32

It's not just a different grammatical construct. It's incorrect. You wouldn't say 'I was looked out the window'.

Quite.

OP posts:
shedwithivy · 28/07/2022 22:06

Rainydaize · 28/07/2022 17:46

Here there's an increase in "I was led down" very much led rather than laid.

Is this a regional thing?

In the south west people seem to say 'led down' instead of lying down

And "reaching" for retching

shedwithivy · 28/07/2022 22:06

MatildaJayne · 28/07/2022 17:54

Bristolians tend to say ‘led down’ etc. A bit of dialect. See also, ‘where ee be led down to?’

Cross post

OchonAgusOchonOh · 28/07/2022 22:20

Another one that bugs me is "Recommend me a xxxx". I can recommend you to someone/for something or I can recommend something to you.

thegreylady · 28/07/2022 22:23

I hate the use of “quote” instead of “quotation “
To me ‘quote’ is a verb and ‘quotation’ is a noun.

namechange7654 · 28/07/2022 22:31

I'm a teacher. On Unifrog (a UCAS based platform, where kids research courses and write their personal statements, and teachers enter references) we have to give the students "predicts". Not predicted grades, or even predictions, just "predicts" <Shudder>

CourtneeLuv · 28/07/2022 22:42

LaPerduta · 28/07/2022 21:16

The pedantry, or the use of "sat" instead of "sitting"?

The use of sat instead of sitting.

See also 'needs fed' 😶

LaPerduta · 28/07/2022 22:52

namechange7654 · 28/07/2022 22:31

I'm a teacher. On Unifrog (a UCAS based platform, where kids research courses and write their personal statements, and teachers enter references) we have to give the students "predicts". Not predicted grades, or even predictions, just "predicts" <Shudder>

It's a bit like "value-added". (Not sure whether this is still in use.) Value-added what?

Also, in retail not education, "Shop the summer edit!" It's an edition, FFS!

OP posts:
1982mommaof4 · 29/07/2022 00:16

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 28/07/2022 17:42

I was sat - hate it.

I don't get it, what should we be saying 🫣

BirdWatch · 29/07/2022 00:21

I only have seen people use "sat" here on Mumsnet.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 29/07/2022 00:36

1982mommaof4 · 29/07/2022 00:16

I don't get it, what should we be saying 🫣

I was sitting.

BirdWatch · 29/07/2022 00:44

And ground/floor. Often used incorrectly.

AmandaMirandaPanda · 29/07/2022 01:00

I think "we were sat" and "we were stood" (not sure about laid) are specifically UK usage; I've never heard them anywhere else but I have heard them IRL in the UK. I also think that in North American English (for example), you wouldn't be "sat down" by the police, you'd be "seated" like in a restaurant.

(I also think there's a fundamental difference between "can I get?" (is it available) and "may I have?" (please bring me...). If you can't get it then there's no point in asking if you may have it. Some people do use can I get when they mean may I have, though.)

SunscreenCentral · 29/07/2022 01:08

Is this in the written word, or spoken, @LaPerduta because as Irish person I'm hearing in my head the many different dialects (of UK speakers of English)

SenecaFallsRedux · 29/07/2022 03:53

dryshampooer · 28/07/2022 18:13

We're still sitting here in Scotland

We're still sitting in the US as well.

The construction I see on MN from time to time that sounds odd to my American ears is 'he was sat in his phone.'

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 29/07/2022 03:59

It's regionally specific. I was born in London, moved to the NW and then moved to the SE all by the age of 13. I picked up 'I was sat' on my travels but I still use sitting too.

Does it really matter? Wouldn't life be boring if we were all the same?

Glitterblue · 29/07/2022 06:15

schnubbins · 28/07/2022 19:48

"I seen" instead of "I saw" is also used more ,

@schnubbins this drives me insane, along with "I done". It's everywhere!

"Myself and Bob were sat outside when we seen a dog passing. The dog stopped and done a poo then he led down". 😂😂 Nooooooo!

BalloonsAndWhistles · 29/07/2022 06:17

I use it. I was quite confused at your post wondering if you were talking about some other use for the word I’d missed.

sammylady37 · 29/07/2022 07:50

A colleague once said “it couldn’t have went any wronger” and I felt like murdering her, I’m sure a jury wouldn’t have convicted me.

HaveringWavering · 29/07/2022 08:35

As a speaker of hiberno english, I'm quite partial to the use of "myself" but only when it follows hiberno english grammar rules.

Please can you give an example @OchonAgusOchonOh?

I'm Scottish and can't think of any.

HaveringWavering · 29/07/2022 08:43

Getoff · 28/07/2022 21:09

I'm similarly sad about you becoming yous

For most of my life I didn't know "yous" was a word, but apparently it is used in the north of England and Scotland (possibly Ireland as well) and it is the plural of you, not an alternative for it.

Yep, it's very common parlance in Scotland. I always imagined it being spelled "youse" but it was definitely not acceptable in written English at school so who knows if there is an official spelling?

It is, of course, the direct equivalent of "vous" in French or "vosotros" in Spanish.

HaveringWavering · 29/07/2022 08:51

@CourtneeLuv
The "needs + past tense" construction is absolutely standard in Scotland.

"That shirt needs washed"
"The grass needs cut"
"The problem needs sorted out"

It's just elision of the words "to be" in the middle, in that it should be

"That shirt needs TO BE washed"
"The grass needs TO BE cut"

I can't tell you how unnatural the English English "ing" construction sounds to me

"The clothes need washing"
"the baby needs feeding"

At least ours just missed a bit out of the grammatically correct phrase- yours has a completely random present participle in it!

Meraas · 29/07/2022 08:52

BitOutOfPractice · 28/07/2022 18:09

OP why not have the courage of your convictions and just say that you hate people using "sat" instead of "sitting" instead of all this mealy mouthed nonsense?

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Meraas · 29/07/2022 08:54

Shop the summer edit!" It's an edition, FFS!

Yes, you need to move with the times, OP. You are a dinosaur.

CounsellorTroi · 29/07/2022 08:58

Phenomenon/Phenomena. Phenomenon is the singular, phenomena is the plural. It’s quite simple. But I hear phenomena used as a singular all the time - “this phenomena” - and god dammit, I was watching an episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds last night and Mr Spock, of all people, said “phenomenons”.

See also criterion/criteria.