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To ask visitors to please do this?

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925XX · 27/07/2022 15:01

Remove their shoes. I have very pale cream carpets and no one in the household wears shoes in the house. My niece recently called and it was heavily raining, she had cork sole shoes on which sucked up lots of water which she tramped over my carpets. I asked her to take them off as wet soggy prints were being left behind. I do not have to ask some people but feel awkward when I do ask.

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InChocolateWeTrust · 27/07/2022 23:21

find it very awkward to stand there while a grown man (say) takes his shoes off and presents himself in his stockinged feet as if he's doing me a favour. You're not doing me a favour and you look ridiculous.

To me someone standing indoors in a pair of shoes looks ridiculous. Slippers yes.... shoes no

Eleusa · 27/07/2022 23:27

AppleBottomRats · 27/07/2022 23:04

Why does someone look ridiculous with their shoes off? This sounds like a Victorian person saying people look ridiculous without hats on.

I don’t think people generally look ridiculous without shoes, don’t be silly.

I do think randomly taking your shoes off when you’ve been asked not to and standing there in your socks for no reason whatsoever makes you look ridiculous. Or perhaps it’s only “shoes off” people who are allowed to set their own rules in their own home? 😂

mathanxiety · 27/07/2022 23:28

@TheKeatingFive

circulareconomy.europa.eu/platform/sites/default/files/knowledge_-_toxics_in_carpets_eu_review_anthesis_final_study.pdf

Section 5, pps 41-69 details chemicals of concern.

Pps 5 and 6 reference health and environmental concerns.

It's strange that people are often so concerned about use of clothes dryers in the UK but cheerfully cover their floors in stuff that releases toxins into the environment for the entire duration of its life, and traps mould, bacteria, and particulate as well as a host of other nasties into the air in their homes.

Angelinflipflops · 27/07/2022 23:31

I've always thought 'nasties' are good for my immune system

SeemsSoUnfair · 27/07/2022 23:34

Eunorition · 27/07/2022 15:19

Everyone in the UK with good manners already takes off their shoes, and most people expect it. No shoes get past my hallway for any reason.

Everyone in the UK? Thats a bit of a leap. And manners for something like this is subjective, I wouldnt ask any adult to remove shoes in my home as I would consider that extremely rude.

Ive never been in a home where i have had to take my shoes off! Never been asked either and never seen others do it. Also never been in a home with anyone daft enough to have pale cream carpets or other impractical flooring!

TheKeatingFive · 27/07/2022 23:58

Pps 5 and 6 reference health and environmental concerns.

There are two lines with no supporting data to back anything up.

If it was a genuinely problematic you'd expect to see that reflected in data comparing counties where carpet is prevalent compare to where it isn't. The U.K. / Ireland would be good comparison points to other parts of the world. But I've never seen that so much as suggested let alone evidenced.

Blossomtoes · 28/07/2022 00:02

Also never been in a home with anyone daft enough to have pale cream carpets

I’m daft enough. I don’t ask people to take their shoes off, in fact I prefer them to keep them on. The four year old cream carpets are still pristine because they get shampooed regularly.

antelopevalley · 28/07/2022 00:04

I am fine with this as long as you have clean floors. It is disgusting to go and put my shoes on and realise my socks are filthy.

ouch321 · 28/07/2022 00:05

I ask people except workmen as that seems a step too far and if they're installing eg a fridge or something it's dangerous in case they accidentally rolled it on their foot or some such.

giggly · 28/07/2022 00:23

@Eunorition I have excellent manners but have never and I repeat never been in a shoes off house in my life and I’m mid 50’s and a community nurse. So guess you can’t talk about everyone in Britain.

Tangled123 · 28/07/2022 01:12

My aunt was the first person I knew who had this rule. I hated it as a kid and thought she was quite snobby for it.
Then I grew up and moved overseas. After living with Asians who had this rule, I got very used to it. Now I have this rule too for my own house and always take my shoes off in my parents house. I don’t in anyone else’s unless they ask or I see them not wearing shoes themselves. I hate wearing shoes inside for long periods now.

RoseMartha · 28/07/2022 01:35

I ask visitors to remove their shoes. YNBU

MissTrip82 · 28/07/2022 01:54

We take our shoes off but don’t ask it of guests, it’s up to them. For some it’s awkward or dangerous for mobility reasons. I do not wish anyone to feel uncomfortable in my home. If I arrived at someone’s home and the frost thing I saw was a sign demanding I remove my shoes I’d not expect them to be terribly gracious hosts. It sets the tone of the visit.

If you prefer guests to take shoes off then simply ask them.

In 43 years I’ve never once had the apparently common experience claimed on these threads of guests tracking dog shit through our home:

jaundicedoutlook · 28/07/2022 02:15

DH was from a shoes on house when we first met and it took a fair bit of training to get him out of the habit. To be fair, his family place was an old house in the middle of nowhere with uneven stone floors downstairs, so that’s a bit understandable. Still slightly grim though.

On the point of people not wanting to display bare feet, we have a box of guest slippers, disposable socks, and shoe protectors for visitors / tradesmen so no problem. Also, if I’m planning on visiting someone, the last thing I’d do is put some manky old socks on or be barefoot…

BadLad · 28/07/2022 02:41

Shoes off or fuck off in our house. My wife is Japanese and this is one point on which Japanese people will not concede an inch.

In other people's houses, we do whatever they ask.

Friffle · 28/07/2022 02:46

DH was from a shoes on house when we first met and it took a fair bit of training to get him out of the habit.

what habits has he 'trained' you out of?

Suzi888 · 28/07/2022 03:07

TheTeenageYears · 27/07/2022 15:16

I really hoped covid would make the vast majority of people come round to a shoes off policy at home. I don't understand how people are comfortable walking around at home in shoes and it's bloody gross on any type of flooring. I have no desire to clean floors repeatedly so they aren't harbouring dirt and germs (I am no clean freak). Your house, your rules - don't make it optional, have a shoe rack at the entrance and preferably a chair so there's no issues with anyone less mobile not being able to comply.

^ This

“We are a no shoes indoors family but I’m very reluctant to ask visitors to remove shoes. I see it as pretty rude tbh - it’s like saying that my floors are equally if not more important than my guests.” - yeah, and? My carpets ARE more important to me 🤣 than having guests. I tell people in advance though- if they don’t like it, don’t come.

IDreamOfTheMoors · 28/07/2022 04:28

@Eunorition We here on the west coast of the U.S. don’t follow that rule, but our east coast friends do. So we pretty much are a 50/50 split, but we all have excellent manners.
It’s more custom than being rude or polite. I wouldn’t dream of wearing shoes in someone’s house where the custom was to remove them.

Yerroblemom1923 · 28/07/2022 04:46

My friends and kids' friends all remove their shoes automatically at the front door just as I do at theirs. People I don't know so well usually ask. And tradespeople usually bring sheets to protect flooring or wear shoe covers. If I'm at a new house I always ask if they'd like me to remove my shoes. It's just common courtesy, surely.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 28/07/2022 05:19

I was shocked years ago when I went to my Asian friends house and they insisted I take my shoes off as uncommon then. When I had ocd after having a child I hated anyone walking across my floor with shoes off but as someone else said they could have stinky feet. Now I don't care and also have a dog so cannot be bothered worried all the time as would drive myself mad but if you choose to have cream carpets then your carpets would be ruined if people wore shoes. I don't ask people to take shoes off now as son 22 but was different when he was crawling around on the floor as a baby.

MissGlitterSparkles · 28/07/2022 07:46

ah - this old MN chestnut of ‘shoes off’ or ‘shoes on’ is back again!

My personal view is that everyone should respect the wishes of the person who’s house you are visiting. Anything else is rude. And if you don’t like taking your shoes off then don’t visit or take slippers!

lenorofavenor · 28/07/2022 07:52

Is that a joke ? Who would be that rude to a guest .

Thinking that someone who is welcoming onto your house and serving you is rude because they don't want extra housework and filth in their house is -checks notes- 'rude'?

Oh my days, irony definitely isn't dead. How unbelievably rude to your hosts. Take off your shoes if that's what your hosts want. Bring socks if you have athletes foot.

Marvellousmadness · 28/07/2022 07:59

Its not RUDE to ask visitors to respect your house rules.
Entire cultures live their lives in shoeless homes.
I have a little sign that asks visitors to take their shoes off. It is outside my house so that they can see it before even knocking on the door. That way it clears the whole "would you mind taking your shoes off "convo

Shoes in the house is vile. White carpets or not. It is unsanitary.

TheKeatingFive · 28/07/2022 08:11

I have a little sign that asks visitors to take their shoes off.

Oh, one of those 😂

It is unsanitary.

Once again, based on what, where are the poorer health outcomes?

Ambushedbycakeinmydreams · 28/07/2022 08:12

BreadInCaptivity · 27/07/2022 17:48

We are not a shoes off family (though we generally do this, but don't ask visitors to do so) but my parents are.

I don't mind because my DM has a lovely slipper basket you can select from (and she washes afterwards) to wear in the house.

Tbh the fact I know also means I wear nice socks and often take my own slippers!

What I don't like is being caught out but if going somewhere "new" I tend to assume shoes off and dress my feet appropriately.

The only time it felt weird was at a house party we attended (significant birthday) and everyone had dressed up for the occasion, only to find we had to lose our shoes at the door.

Que lots of people in evening dress and bare feet, some with outfits dragging on the ground because they'd been designed to be worn with heels and some clearly uncomfortable having "dressed up" but having non manicured feet on display.

I also wasn't exactly happy in bare feet (though thankfully I'd painted my toenails) wandering around and thinking about how many guests might have fungal infections, veruccas etc

Re the party, for the guests that is just awful. People came having made great effort to dress up in honour of the occasion and then were made to feel humiliated by the hosts when they were asked to remove their footwear. That is so disrespectful to your guests.
For goodness sake people, if your carpets etc are so much more important than your guests' right to choose between shoes on/ off - then don't have people round.

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