CF Tourists - is it worse ??

[WeWillLookBack]

We have just got back from a few days in Cornwall - we live in Devon, so spend a lot of time in both counties and are very used to tourists and holiday makers. We stayed in a 'pub with rooms on the beach, which was lovely. However - I am utterly gobsmacked by the level of CF we have witnessed in the 3 days. It feels like peoples entitlement is off the scale. I don't know how those in hospitality are dealing with it.

Wednesday - Woman went mental at the poor young lad serving in the beer garden - insisted she had booked a table outside. Very politely told her that they do not take reservations for the garden, just the restaurant. Screaming ' Are you calling me a liar'. He went in, and didn't come back out.

Friday AM - they serve breakfast for guests 8am-9.30am, then open for breakfast at 9.30am (lots of signs saying open at 9.30am). At 8.30am a group were outside - rattling the door. Member of staff opens the door, and lets them know they open at 9.30am. Lots of moaning - insisting they can have breakfast now etc. She says no - very polite. So he tells her it is disgusting that they allow guests to sit in the window eating when others can't ! ( and to make up for their error, they should serve them breakfast too)

Friday evening - Family of 6 rocked up - no space in the beer garden. Started shouting - so the owner came out. Man very angry - they had driven for 6 hours - and the kids needed feeding. The owner was great - polite but firm. The man actually suggested the owner walk around the beer garden and checked when people were leaving so they could secure a table. He said no. A lot of swearing. Asked to leave.

Drive home Saturday morning. Along a winding road along the coast - car in front just stops. Man gets out and stands looking at the sea. Single lane - so I cant go around him. After a few moments I beep - he stomps over to my car and says 'Can I help you' ... I say you have blocked the road - could you move please. To which he responds 'I am looking at the view - maybe you could just be kind' FFS !!!

Wellies is because you're walking through water that can be up to mid shin on an adult. When I told someone yesterday that she needed her own wellies she told me she was an adult and why would an adult need wellies. I didn't know what to say to that really!

We used to live in an achingly beautiful historic house that had been in a film (not large, just chocolate box beautiful). My DH came back from a run one day and was standing in front of the house with a drink in hand trying to cool down when he noticed a tourist at the bottom of the garden motioning to him to move out of the way so that he could take a photo of the house without him in it. My husband just sat down on our patio furniture and stretched his neon lycra'd self out and make sure he'd ruin any photo.

We also used to have people sit on the same patio furniture and ask us for cream teas when we came out of the door looking mightily confused.

And yes, before anyone asks, there were multiple 'private' signs up.

Part of my job involves managing holiday lets in a very popular rural place. We get many requests for “please can I have my shopping delivered 4 hours before check in time”. When I say no due to the cleaners being in there and busy they kick up a fuss and expect the cleaner to accept the delivery and put away the cold / frozen items etc. No.
Also a lot of dog poos left in the garden. And they often go and sit on the next door neighbours decking at the back, despite it clearly not belonging to the house.

Unfortunately the recent generations who grew up never hearing the word "no", have now reached adulthood.

It can only get worse.

I live in Cornwall and spend a lot of time in the typical tourist spots, as well as the lesser known areas and I have to say, I see little to none of this sort of behaviour. I think people have always been arseholes to some extent, but in my experience, although it's a lot busier, most people are chilled out and in good spirits.
In fact, I'm probably seen as the arsehole because I'm the local trying to squeeze through all the people crawling through the streets while I'm in a rush to grab some lunch on my break from the office.

Last week on the hottest day of the year I took my kids to Mcdonald for ice cream and all of a sudden a super agressive man came flying in screaming, shouting and swearing before he even got in the door.

He launced at the young girl behind the counter instantly (she ran of crying) and he was screaming that she was 'laughing' and 'taking the piss out of him' (dispite the fact she wasnt laughing and he had only been in there 0.01 second before launching at her).

It seems to be only women work in our Mcdonalds too and hes clearly not above attacking women which made it worse.

The manager and older woman came out and told him to leave but he was agressively yelling nonsense saying he had been trying to order at the drive through for 20 minutes and he could 'hear them laughing at him' through the mic and how three other cars behind him have had their order taken and been served already but they wouldnt take his order.

Thing is that makes no sense as it a 2 story mcdonalds on a tiny plot, the drive through is single lane (as it squeezes between two buildings) and once your in nothing can get passed and you have to be in to order. No idea what he was shouting his order at but it clearly wasnt the drive through if cars where driving past him, also if he was ordering then how would the cars behind him have access to order?.

It just made no sense.

Also he was yelling that he had '2 little kids in the car' who where 'cooking' on this 20 minute wait to order but he didnt bring any kids in with him so did he leave kids in the car on the hottest day of the year?

It takes a minute to park up, get the kids out (I managed with a baby and toddler) and pop inside and order anyway pluse its air conditioned and nicer.

@Footgoose

A group of people stood right over us to ensure they got the table next. Stood there talking about their “strategy” on how they were going to “take the table” as soon as we moved .

I'd have settled in for the night. Coffees and more coffees.....

I really don’t understand why people need to be so rude to hospitality staff.

I sort of understand if they are frustrated with a
service, but manage to remain polite.

I hate it when they straight away lash out. Why? Why are you so important that everything must be catered specifically to you?

I find that tourist who see locals not working assume we are not locals and are also tourists. Presumably because the locals should be at work serving them.

It's the same as the second home owners and tourist and there insistence that they entirely support all our jobs, which is bullshit, very few of my neighbours or friends work in tourism and leisure despite living in Snowdonia.

I have been known to then order an extra round of drinks or a coffee in such situations. It drives me mad when people hover and try and rush you.

Yeah I'm curious as to what the attraction is. I live in Cumbria and have waded through all sorts in my walking boots.

Actually the poster who said she was sitting at a “large” table waiting for a friend is a bit unreasonable, imo. Of course it is more pleasant to sit at a larger table but to deny an appropriately-sized party a seat when tables are available elsewhere wouldn’t sit right with me.

My French friend has no compunction about asking people to move. I was dying once as she reorganised a pub so that people weren’t under occupying tables. But she was right! I’m sure the pub appreciates it too as they don’t want a sole customer spreading over a table for eight.

btw same principle applies to people laptop-spreading in coffee shops.

Not rude - stating the obvious (I would have thought)

I really hope that everyone having a cathartic moan on this thread also speaks up when you see this behaviour in real life. If we want things to improve we have to make it clear when we consider something to be unacceptable at the time. Sadly I very much doubt anyone does.

I still don't get it. Isn't it up to an adult whether they get wet feet?

I can see you'd advise wellies but why compulsory when it's so unlikely that people would have them with them?

I live near the lake district and refuse to visit during holiday season😬

I’ve had this before, still eating and one of the couple with his back to us actually leaned/perched on the edge of the table while he moaned how long we were taking. I asked him to move, he did stand up, but was once again leaning on the table when our puddings arrived.

My son had one of those puddings where you have to break open the chocolate to get into it, in the process he knocked over my full glass of red wine which went all over the mans cream trousers. Best £12 I’ve ever spent.

That was me. When you're a single female (like we both were) sometimes you get rude, entitled twattery like this.

It was the way in which he asked it. Assumed it. He didn't ask inside just assumed we would both move, to make way for his bigger family. They could've fitted around a smaller table (which was the same size as ours).

hahha. oh i love this!

I think the problem is that you don't want to make a scene - the member of staff might not thank you for embarrassing them.

An example - some years ago I was on holiday and a guy at the hotel said to a member of staff "you don't mind if I am shirtless do you". Of course she said no, but actually he had a disgusting beer belly and nobody needed to see it and we weren't on a beach. I would have happily told him to cover up, but it might have made life difficult for her.

And before you get me for fat shaming - I don't really like men going topless at all. But it's worse when you have an older bloke showing off his saggy flesh to a younger woman.

The only road for larger delivery vehicles in and out of our village is currently blocked by crappy parking.

It isn’t always safe to do so, I’ve seen people be punched, spat at and even stabbed for pointing out peoples poor manners/behaviour.

I feel the need to say that not all motorhome owners who have driven a bit of the famed NC500 are arseholes. I'm an experienced motorhomer and I can honestly say I have never dumped waste other than in an elsan point, never parked anywhere other than a campsite and we have always spent money in the local community on food and supplies etc.

Also, there weren't any other tables around, hardly any were left. I wasn't waiting for a friend either, my friend had arrived but had gone to the toilet on arrival.

@WeWillLookBack Was it The Merrymoor in Mawgan Porth? We were staying locally last week and whilst it is a lot less busy than last year and the staffing levels are better I did witness some similar outrageous behaviour from a minority. My 15 year old DS was waiting for an outside table whilst I put some bits in the car, a family told him they were leaving so he could have their table. He hung back slightly to let them past as he had our dog with him (very wet and sandy springer) and a dad with 2 younger children actually pushed DS out of the way and sat down before the original family had even walked away. They told him off but he refused to budge. Luckily another lady saw what happened and let DS have her table instead.