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Son on a residential

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FergusSingsTheBluess · 24/07/2022 23:44

My 10 yo son is autistic and really worried about an upcoming school trip where he will be 4 hours away from me for 3 nights.

He is very bright, reasonably sociable and has v nice friends and is very involved with school life in general but he can’t cope with play dates, sleepovers or any cross pollination of school and home life.

He also suffers from terrible separation anxiety plus sleep problems .

Would I be unreasonable to rent a nearby Airbnb to collect him and take him back each evening?

He is having full scale panic attacks over this and I know he don’t be able to manage staying over - I had to collect him the last time and that was only a mile from me. But I don’t want him to miss out

would teachers support this or does it seem odd and overbearing?

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Lisad1231981 · 25/07/2022 10:04

Ohthatsexciting · 25/07/2022 08:06

Avoid the entire thing Op.

He is not able to do it sadly and will require a shed load of effort from the teachers.

Surely it's down to the teachers if they think it's too much.
As someone who arranged trips most years, it's always a shed load of work and I will always try to make it accessible to all students as they all deserve the opportunity to go.

Scoose · 25/07/2022 10:09

Speak to the school we have just done exactly this for our daughter who has asd. She has never been away from us overnight and didn't want to go but once we told her we would stay nearby and she could stay with us at night she was happy about the idea. She had a brilliant time and joined in with all of the activities without the pressure of having to stay overnight. I'm sure the school will be accommodating

Dewsberry · 25/07/2022 10:14

FergusSingsTheBluess · 25/07/2022 07:00

@Dewsberry Well his last residential was a disaster. Despite me speaking to them and writing everything down, they called me at 10pm because nobody had given him his melatonin and he was trapped in a big room where they were all watching a movie. He was too shy to say he needed to sleep or to ask for his tablets -surely autism 101 FFS - he cannot cop with life after 9pm and I don’t want a repeat of that. So, no, I don’t trust them to manage him properly and need to advocate for him.

Yes of course you need to advocate for him. That was more or less the point I was trying to make.

FergusSingsTheBluess · 25/07/2022 11:05

alnawire · 25/07/2022 09:59

I am keen he goes because autism limits enough of his life as it is.

It only limits his life if you spend it comparing what stage a NT child would be at. What it actually does it keep his life at a level he is happy and comfortable with. The narrative that autistic people are limited is often used by NT people because they compare with themselves and other NT people around them. Work with your child. He isn't NT and he isn't limited. His life will be different but if you allow it to be his life instead of chasing what you think should be he will be a lot happier.

Well as much as we might not want him to feel limited, HE feels limited

He has lovely friends but can’t deal with
sleepovers
kids around his house
late nights
food colourings
uncertainty
being away from me

He gets frustrated at having to manage certain aspects of his life that he sees
other children experience without batting an eyelid.

He just wants to be like everybody else but thankfully he is now very articulate about his feelings (didn’t speak until he was 6) so we are able to talk alot about the issues that bother him and work through them as best we can.

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alnawire · 25/07/2022 11:08

He just wants to be like everybody else but thankfully he is now very articulate about his feelings (didn’t speak until he was 6) so we are able to talk alot about the issues that bother him and work through them as best we can.

It ok for him to learn he doesn't have to be like everyone else. I'm sorry I feel like I'm having a go at you and it isn't intended but coming from a place of real lives experience. I wish I had known when I was your sons age that it's ok not to be the same. Possibly projecting a bit but tbh I still think it's key advice for any families living with autism, or any other disability really. Anyway I apologise for coming across badly. I'm not having a go and I hope you can work something out with school that suits you all, especially your son.

FergusSingsTheBluess · 25/07/2022 12:13

You’re not offending me at al, it’s helpful to be challenged really. I understand what you’re saying. There is a strong element of “meh, don’t do it then” going on with various things but if he wants to join in something then I want to facilitate him.

if he didn’t want to go, I’d have no probs saying no to the school.

Anyway I’m sure we will work it all out. Thanks to everybody - this thread has been so reassuring xx

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Ohthatsexciting · 25/07/2022 12:41

I would have headed this off at the very 6

”how about we save this for next year when you’re a bit older and this year we invite XUC around for a play date here? Perhaps we could do go ape or one of the activities on the residential?!”

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 12:48

My son is autistic so we will have this in a few years. If my son didn't want to go I wouldn't push him to attend to be 'normal' if he did want to go I would either ask to attend too or do similar to what you plan to do.

FergusSingsTheBluess · 25/07/2022 12:53

@autienotnaughty

no he really does want to go

it’s bing without me and dealing with his sleep issues that’s the problem

anyway hopefully it will be solved 💪

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TheBeautifulMoors · 25/07/2022 12:53

My DH did exactly that at that age. If worked perfectly for us.
They had a great time and had some good bonding time in the evening.
He’s been on a couple of residential trips with school since then and has been completely fine. Hardly slept but he was fine and enjoyed them both.

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 12:55

@FergusSingsTheBluess then it's a great plan. I would volunteer to help out in day too, they probably appreciate extra hands

Phineyj · 25/07/2022 12:56

Sounds a perfectly reasonable solution to me. My DD's school did this for a child with poorly controlled diabetes (requiring blood sugar checks at night). A great time was had by all.

CarlCarlson · 25/07/2022 12:59

Sounds like a sensible solution, my only “bigger picture” concern is that it doesn’t treat the root cause or help him to get over his issue

Good idea for this school residential but you can’t be doing this sort of thing forever

HikingforScenery · 25/07/2022 12:59

Ohthatsexciting · 25/07/2022 08:06

Avoid the entire thing Op.

He is not able to do it sadly and will require a shed load of effort from the teachers.

@FergusSingsTheBluess OP, please don’t listen to this one.
This is an opportunity for him to build his independence skills and he’ll be so proud when he does it.

HikingforScenery · 25/07/2022 13:01

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 12:55

@FergusSingsTheBluess then it's a great plan. I would volunteer to help out in day too, they probably appreciate extra hands

Don’t help out during the day, @FergusSingsTheBluess. Let him go and take him back in the evening. Let him experience it fully without you there in the day.

Motnight · 25/07/2022 13:05

He does not want to go. Why would you make him?

Ohthatsexciting · 25/07/2022 13:10

Motnight · 25/07/2022 13:05

He does not want to go. Why would you make him?

Because many are insistent he will benefit from the independence.

my stance is - this is too big for a lesson in independence and could really have a negative impact.

i think you arrange for a couple of friends around and you take them on an activity.

Motnight · 25/07/2022 13:11

FergusSingsTheBluess · 25/07/2022 12:53

@autienotnaughty

no he really does want to go

it’s bing without me and dealing with his sleep issues that’s the problem

anyway hopefully it will be solved 💪

Apologies just read your update, Op. Ignore my previous post. I hope that you find an answer

lastminutedotcom22 · 25/07/2022 16:51

My friend did this with her autistic daughter but she contacted the PGL place who actually had some twin rooms for this very purposed so she stayed onsite with her daughter at night and saved her paying out for an air b n b it worked well

justfiveminutes · 25/07/2022 18:04

lastminutedotcom22 · 25/07/2022 16:51

My friend did this with her autistic daughter but she contacted the PGL place who actually had some twin rooms for this very purposed so she stayed onsite with her daughter at night and saved her paying out for an air b n b it worked well

I think that could potentially be very upsetting for other homesick kids. Whisking him away discreetly at a convenient moment could work, but the other children knowing he's on-site with his mum could be hard on some of them. Would mum be there all day too or joining them for mealtimes? She'd also need a full DBS check.

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 18:22

@justfiveminutes the difference being the op's child needs additional support due to his additional needs. He's not getting an advantage over the other children he's being appropriately supported so he can attend.

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 18:28

CarlCarlson · 25/07/2022 12:59

Sounds like a sensible solution, my only “bigger picture” concern is that it doesn’t treat the root cause or help him to get over his issue

Good idea for this school residential but you can’t be doing this sort of thing forever

The thing with having a neuro diverse child is that their normal is not your normal. He may always need help or he may not. The op can not force that but she can work with him . The bonus here is he gets to have this experience in a way that's manageable to him. In the same way the other children have it in a way that's manageable to them. The two are not comparable.

justfiveminutes · 25/07/2022 18:32

autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 18:22

@justfiveminutes the difference being the op's child needs additional support due to his additional needs. He's not getting an advantage over the other children he's being appropriately supported so he can attend.

I know. I just like op's idea of staying nearby and whisking away before bedtime better than having mum staying on-site. I can't help thinking of the impact on the other children, having done lots of these.

FergusSingsTheBluess · 25/07/2022 18:43

I’m not planning to stay on site 😂

Somewhere nearby

also worth remembering that ASD children are generally 1/3 younger than their chronological age so… would a 7 yo struggle? Probably yes.

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autienotnaughty · 25/07/2022 21:16

@FergusSingsTheBluess yes my 7 yr old asd child is more like a 4/5 year old in many ways. It does make a difference.

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