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"Educate yourself"

96 replies

MiriMollyMartha · 22/07/2022 16:04

AIBU to hate this phrase? It seems to be everywhere recently as another way of saying "You are ignorant and uneducated unless you totally agree with me, and until you agree with me you will continue to be uneducated."

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TiddleyWink · 22/07/2022 16:20

I agree. There’s a certain type of very superior and tedious know it all who says that. It absolutely comes across as speaking down to and insulting the intelligence of someone who has the audacity not to think you’re right. I cringe hard when I read it on here (more and more!)

Discovereads · 22/07/2022 16:22

I agree it is misused, but sometimes it’s the only phrase that fits when faced with blatant ignorance. It’s ok to hate it though, it’s not meant to be liked.

Jeschara · 22/07/2022 16:22

The person saying it is very patronising and ignorant.

Thereisnolight · 22/07/2022 16:37

Yes!!! Totally agree. And I love how you’ve articulated what I’ve always thought but never could work out how to phrase

orbitalcrisis · 22/07/2022 16:37

I would usually use this when somebody confidently says something totally misinformed or offensive, like the people that have told me tautism doesn't exist and/or is an excuse for bad parenting.

orbitalcrisis · 22/07/2022 16:38

Autism

hangrylady · 22/07/2022 16:39

YANBU. So patronising.

girlmom21 · 22/07/2022 16:40

It's normally used by people who need to educate themselves on basic social etiquette.

SashaMannDeservedBetter · 22/07/2022 16:41

I had it too, usually said to white people as though we are thick just for being white..

AlisonDonut · 22/07/2022 16:41

Usually used by people who don't actually know what they are talking about, and who can't give actual answers to questions asked.

PineForestsAndSunshine · 22/07/2022 16:42

I also hate the phrase - even though most of the time I agree with the sentiment!

It doesn't do what's it's intended to either as people tend to instinctively stick to their guns when under attack

Discovereads · 22/07/2022 16:43

orbitalcrisis · 22/07/2022 16:37

I would usually use this when somebody confidently says something totally misinformed or offensive, like the people that have told me tautism doesn't exist and/or is an excuse for bad parenting.

Me too.

ClocksGoingBackwards · 22/07/2022 16:50

I agree. IME it’s usually said by people that need to open their minds to the idea that there is more than one valid perspective on the given subject and that their experience might not be the same as someone else’s experience.

mbosnz · 22/07/2022 16:52

I can certainly see the temptation to use it may sometimes almost be irresistible!

However, it does come across as very condescending, very rude, and so to me, it's the verbal equivalent of a mic' drop and walking away.

Blossomtoes · 22/07/2022 16:52

girlmom21 · 22/07/2022 16:40

It's normally used by people who need to educate themselves on basic social etiquette.

Very true. It’s incredibly rude and usually said aggressively.

RobertaFirmino · 22/07/2022 16:55

I couldn't agree more. Especially when said to someone who is asking a question, therefore trying to gain knowledge and educating themselves!

Thereisnolight · 22/07/2022 17:01

I’ve never been tempted to use it, even though I’ve often met people who I judge to be ill-informed. If I choose to engage I state my reason for my perspective rather than telling the other person to look up my reason.

Sometimes I can be a bit assertive (some would say aggressive)…also I can be quite intense and boring….trying to work on that…but at least I’m not just spouting the Twitter opinion du jour or assuming that just because I think something everyone else must think it too.

BlusteryLake · 22/07/2022 17:02

I hate this phrase. It's almost exclusively said by people who think that the only reason someone disagrees with them is because they are ill-informed or stupid. They can't imagine that anyone could simply be fundamentally taking a different standpoint.

5foot5 · 22/07/2022 17:07

You are absolutely right and does seem to be used most by people who cannot comprehend that it is possible to have a perfectly valid opinion that is different to their own.

Ponoka7 · 22/07/2022 17:38

I know tend to say "you need to do a bit more research on the subject" because the phase has been hijacked. It's usually during political discussions online, when the person is quoting incorrect information, they've picked up somewhere, rather than facts.

HangOnToYourself · 22/07/2022 17:40

It's the gammon motto

corlan · 22/07/2022 17:43

It's so bloody pompous.

Flubber88 · 22/07/2022 18:26

I hate it. It is also right up there with 'The narrative' and 'Tone deaf' - where did all these come from?

Blossomtoes · 22/07/2022 18:40

And read the room.

Flubber88 · 22/07/2022 19:07

Blossomtoes · 22/07/2022 18:40

And read the room.

OMG I was going to add that as well - then didn't! Ha!