PM Truss

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YouGov poll among Tory Party members show she's smashing Sunak 62% to 38%

I despair......I really do. 🤦‍♀️

Putin won't be happy , or Zelensky who loved Boris Johnson!
It could cause problems

Said by someone, and glibly repeated by others, to try and justify the fact they only care about themselves.

I looked up the MP she had an affair with in 05 and he looks a bit odd

He was the one who man-handled the female protestor at a Mansion House speech a few years ago.

She's also linked to another MP on the "sex dossier" that was released a few years ago.

I just get the impression she's a deeply insecure, easily influenced, humourless vacuum.

The only thing I've commented on is her weird smile after talking about pork. This isn't about her looks/clothes at all. It's about vacuous comments, delivered in a way that assumes everyone is somehow going to think she's terribly clever and dynamic. It would be ridiculous in a man or a woman.

She will be a square peg in a round hole with a dubious attraction to dodgy men.
What can go wrong?...

Oh and she was apparently a LibDem previously which is a bit weird for someone who wants to be Conservative prime minister.

I'm not a great fan of her but you can't hold changing her politics since sge was young against her. On the Today programme they gave her a hard time about being at Greenham Common, she was 7 FFS. Both Gladstone and Churchill crossed the house.

The Torys know Sunak will raise interest rates , which will be a vote loser, Truss will drop interest rates a vote winner, despite it overall raising inflation. But they don't care because theyll be in again.

Do you want to see the complete destruction of the UK? Will you only be happy then?

If you don't tackle inflation first your up shit creek.
Seems that someone needs to tell Ms Truss this as she isn't listening to Sunak who understands this.
I just hope she appoints a decent chancellor.

Said by someone, and glibly repeated by others, to try and justify the fact they only care about themselves

Ermm, no.

Can't you see that assuming that the 45% who voted Conservative in 2019 are all selfish and care only for themselves - and the 32% who voted Labour are all thoughtful and virtuous - is rather naive good/evil thinking? Does it match what you observe around you, speaking to people?

Some people will vote Conservative out of self interest - I suspect about the same % as vote Labour out of self interest.

But many people vote Conservative because they think that it's the better way to run the country for everyone's benefit. You might disagree with them. Grown-ups realise that people can have different opinions - even based on the same facts - and with good intentions on both sides.

I think you are rather proving the point.

Women are held to a different standard, which is unfair, but that does not mean they shouldn’t be held to any standard.

Dressing up as an iconic politician of yesteryear, particularly at important events like a leadership debate, is weird and inappropriate.

Correction ; it's Patrick Minford backing Liz Truss , not Minton.
Sorry.
He is on newsnight now.

There'll be a General Election within the next twelve months. Back when Gordon Brown was an unelected PM lots of noise was made - including by Boris Johnson - about him having no mandate as people voters for Labour under a different leader, they didn't choose him, and so on. This has been repeated with successive 'unelected' PMs, also including Boris Johnson, and it'll be used again this time around to force a GE.

Good , we will get a Labour win very soon.

Yes it’s unfair as you say but back to the clothes,, it’s the wrong focus imo the standard to which they are held should be their policies

I hope the people voting consider those as it will impact the next couple of years

Like pp I’m concerned about inflation so Sunak looks better to me, but I’m up for hearing more

I think she's suitably unqualifed for being PM but I do like the fact she was state educated, I really do not want another Eton / Winchester old boy.

Have you read her proposed policies?
Heard her speak publicly?

Yes, which bits are you arguing against and what do you feel are RS’s stronger points? Your post isn’t clear.

I’d rather have her than Sunak- bloody tax dodging dilettante. He’s a proper Thatcherite as well.

Also, she’s a good Terf, so that’ll do nicely.

She seems dangerously vain and driven by ambition. The photo ops where she consplays Thatcher or indeed the Queen are dreadful.

That line she came out with about dogs deterring drones by barking should bar anyone from high office.

I don’t know which MP she slept with but I saw on the alleged whips spreadsheet that was leaked to the press that she has had sex with Kwasi Karteng (as did Amber Rudd). And another researcher as well.

How she would steer the country is beyond me, she seems always to approval-seeking and validation-hungry to be a leader.

She makes Nicola Sturgeon, who is about the same age, seem very down-to-earth, cogent, competent and articulate by comparison.

It was Mark Field - he of the throat grabbing @Worldwearymum

Thanks @MichaelFabricantsWig

Wow. No words.

I find myself bizarrely attracted to Liz Truss😲

Like pp I’m concerned about inflation so Sunak looks better to me, but I’m up for hearing more

Can you explain the mechanism by which you think cutting taxes will increase inflation - when that inflation is caused by higher fuel and food prices due to a) the war limiting supply of fuel and food and b) higher transport costs for imports?

Things that do increase inflation:
Printing too much money will cause inflation, because it weakens the £, increasing the cost of imports. Liz Truss accused Sunak of not balancing this carefully enough. Inflation is world-wide though, so I'm not sure that's fair.

Increasing wages will cause inflation, by increasing how much it costs to produce things. Hard to avoid politically right now. Personal tax cuts like NI actually help the cost of living crisis without pushing up prices. So Liz Truss' proposal could reduce inflation.

Cutting tax can increase demand-driven inflation by making people feel rich and spending more on unnecessary goods on credit. But I don't think that's happening: everyone is cutting spending wherever they can. Current inflation is driven by genuine increased cost of supply, not excessive demand.

What doesn't increase inflation:
Cutting taxes so that people can continue to buy necessities such as food and fuel despite those increasing in cost for reasons completely outside the UK? I can't see how that increases inflation. It just means people can continue to buy what they need, despite cheap fuel from Russia and cheap food from Ukraine no longer being available.

BUT
Cutting taxes does mean less money coming in, so unless we print money (which causes inflation) then we end up borrowing more to fund day-to-day costs (like hospitals and schools etc). And when inflation is high, that debt will cost us increasing amounts. It's certainly a trade-off.

But I do think the link to inflation is wrong - or at least more complex than Sunak is saying.

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This!