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AIBU?

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AIBU to not see them even if it comes between us?

41 replies

Puglover287 · 19/07/2022 18:48

Bit of a long one, sorry.

I am pregnant, due to get married soon and I’ve just had enough of my DP’s family.
For as long as I’ve known them (6years) it’s been super turbulent and dramatic. If there is no drama or upset, they will create it, particularly MIL. They will fabricate things or do/say things which 99% of people would never do as they would know they’d be inflammatory. Over the years I’ve been accused of having said or done all sorts by MIL in particular, which my DP has always believed and I’ve had to go to extremes at times to prove my innocence E.g. she joined a group which I was already a member of and told DP I had excluded her from meetings but she was never supposed to attend said meetings and I had to get superiors involved to prove this wasn’t true as DP had said I was bullying her. She said I’d called her a number of nasty names over email but then couldn’t back this up as it wasn’t true.

Recently, the drama has been too much/too frequent, and the most frustrating part is that she constantly lies and fabricates information to make things seem worse (?). DP has now started to realise this but still engages in the drama and is often exasperated by it. Another big issue is that she says very peculiar, inflammatory things to me and DP. We recently announced that we were having our baby to be met with a story about how she miscarried a baby at 20 weeks and it was horrific (last time we heard the story it was a 12 week loss so who knows) ….. when she is aware this is my first successful pregnancy almost 2 years after an ectopic that saw me go into cardiac arrest and have to be resuscitated. Everyone else just congratulated us and said how happy they were as they know we’ve been through a tough time TTC/with my health and health anxiety since what happened last time. (Also, regarding my ectopic and cardiac arrest she told me and DP that Cardiac arrest happens to loads of women who lose babies and that it’s very common and that it wasn’t anything to be concerned about. All my consultants at the time and everyone I’ve seen since with this pregnancy have clarified this is complete BS but DP believed it at the time so wasn’t as supportive as he could have been. He now realises it was very rare and could have been fatal and is a concern in this pregnancy too).

I have distanced myself by removing myself from group chats and no longer visit their house or see them in external settings. They do not visit us at all. DP is finding this very difficult and is not handling this well. Whilst my MH is better for this as I’m not longer being spoken down to or having strange things said to me, DP does not get why I can’t be around them anymore. He thinks this is just what families do.

Today is DP’s birthday and he has gone for a meal with them. I said I did want to attend when he told me about it on the weekend as I really cannot bear to be around them and he said that was fine, although he was disappointed. This has however now turned into a bit of a row because he thinks I should support him on his birthday. I disagree because he’s been made very aware of the years of shit I’ve put up with to be with him and that I’ve grown tired of it.

So AIBU or is it fair enough?

YANBU - they sound difficult and it’s better for your MH if you don’t have a relationship with them
YABU - DP is right and you should put up with them for his sake

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Puglover287 · 19/07/2022 18:51

Sorry *didn’t want to attend birthday meal

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LaughandGiggle · 19/07/2022 18:51

I'm sorry but this will never get better if he continues to defend this. You'll always be the bad guy.

Cherrysoup · 19/07/2022 18:55

It’s a DH problem. He is in the fog, it won’t improve unties properly on your side.

NameChange3210 · 19/07/2022 18:57

From my own experience, which is similar to yours with (now ex) in laws. This will continue to get worse, especially when the new baby arrives and a whole new set of problems arrive with it - in laws not respecting your boundaries, trying to take over etc.

If your partner doesn’t sort this out ultimately the resentment will build up in your relationship too and probably not last too much longer.

I am now much happier on my own with my child without the stress of ex’s side of the family!

Puglover287 · 19/07/2022 19:00

I feel like I want to call off the wedding and just leave sometimes. Although I love my DP, he’s so entrapped by them but weirdly, needs me to have a relationship with them.

I would never stop him taking the baby to see them but I am worried about what they will say to or about the baby once it arrives. It hurts my heart that they may be cruel to or about my baby.

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GodspeedJune · 19/07/2022 19:01

God, why on earth is he partaking in this? You have a major problem on your hands here, not just with the in-laws, but with your partner.

GodspeedJune · 19/07/2022 19:02

Don’t trust them with your baby! If they can’t be civil and polite to you, don’t subject your baby to them.

RandomMess · 19/07/2022 19:03

Please go and see a couples therapist about this together now.

Sort it out before marriage and the baby arrives. Best money you will ever invest.

NameChange3210 · 19/07/2022 19:04

@Puglover287 I mean it is usual to have a relationship with your in laws of course… but not when they are a massive PITA and no-one is willing to step in and stop them!

Is there any reason they would be cruel TO the baby?

IMO with in-laws like this, they won’t be cruel to their grandchild etc of course not, HOWEVER, they will do whatever they can to be cruel to you as a parent. My ex MIL would take my very distressed baby away from me and say “come with your Mummy now” and used to call DD her child (which was very sensitive to me because my first child died) - it got to the point where I MASSIVELY kicked off and she didn’t dare try it again!

DadAndLovingIt · 19/07/2022 19:08

I'd recommend going to a couples therapist, too.
It's a problem you need to sort out together, not something to divide you.
You'll find it far easier if you know DP is on your side.

FergusSingsTheBluess · 19/07/2022 19:08

I’m in exactly your shoes op, down to the recent birthday, except I was pressurised into attending and was ignored.

this then ended up in a difficult conversation ie my husband went ballistic at them and made it clear that their behaviour was unacceptable.

and yet nothing has changed.

Stand your ground.
Enjoy the liberation from the toxic nonsense and make sure you do fun stuff for yourself when he goes to see them.
your loyalty is to yourself.

TemperTrap · 19/07/2022 19:08

I would postpone the wedding and get some couples therapy as someone else suggested. In fact I think your partner should probably get his own therapy first.

Your in-laws won't change but you and your partner (mostly him) can change how you respond and manage them.

If he's not willing to stand up to his family and protect you then I don't think the relationship is in any way healthy.

Puglover287 · 19/07/2022 19:09

NameChange3210 · 19/07/2022 19:04

@Puglover287 I mean it is usual to have a relationship with your in laws of course… but not when they are a massive PITA and no-one is willing to step in and stop them!

Is there any reason they would be cruel TO the baby?

IMO with in-laws like this, they won’t be cruel to their grandchild etc of course not, HOWEVER, they will do whatever they can to be cruel to you as a parent. My ex MIL would take my very distressed baby away from me and say “come with your Mummy now” and used to call DD her child (which was very sensitive to me because my first child died) - it got to the point where I MASSIVELY kicked off and she didn’t dare try it again!

Sorry to hear about your loss. That is super insensitive and no matter which way your MIL would have liked to dress it up, it was cruel to say when you’d been through what you had.

I agree it’s much more likely they’d do as you’d said, however DP is constantly criticised or left out or berated for not doing enough so it wouldn’t surprise me if they were cruel. DP reacts to this by constantly trying to please, as he’s desperate to be seen as equal to his siblings who are on a pedestal. No matter what DP does, it never compares to his siblings although he is by far the most successful.

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OurChristmasMiracle · 19/07/2022 19:15

honestly I would continue to have cut all ties to his family and be very blunt with him as to why- you will not tolerate lies being made up about you and will not engage with people who spread malicious lies about you.

newbiename · 19/07/2022 19:16

I definitely wouldn't be marrying into that family.

BMW6 · 19/07/2022 19:17

Sorry but I think your relationship is doomed unless he can disengage from the drama and lies.

Unless he stands with you 100% there could be massive problems for you when your child is here.

Perhaps counselling together would help you both stand together?

Crumpleton · 19/07/2022 19:20

When I started reading this I thought it was a relatively new relationship...maybe I should have read on instead of shaking my head before posting..
but
6 years.
super turbulent.
Dramatic.
So now you're pregnant and marring into a family where not even your husband to be believes your side of things.
Love has an awful lot to answer for...you say that you love your husband to be but at the very least he shouldn't ever let his mother treat you the way she does.

Maybe call the wedding off now, even walk away until you get a bit of respect. Unless you're hoping things will change dramatically when you're married you're setting yourself up for a life of MIL misery.

RandomMess · 19/07/2022 19:22

Your DP needs to read up about the family scapegoat. Also toxic parents.

Merryoldgoat · 19/07/2022 19:22

I’ve said YABU because you’re an absolute fool for hanging around this long.

Why would you put yourself through this shit?

ilyx · 19/07/2022 19:23

I’d recommend Dr Ramanis videos on YouTube about narcissistic family members. But yeah sorry you’re going through this 😬 to your DP her behaviour is normal as it’s what he grew up with and that’s probably why he isn’t being particularly helpful with her

Dillydollydingdong · 19/07/2022 19:26

Obviously your DP is lacking in self confidence. He needs building up so that either he ignores their nasty remarks or he can reply with some of his own.

Puglover287 · 19/07/2022 19:28

God knows why I’ve put up with it. I’m young (mid 20s) and we’ve built a successful life together so I think I just pushed this crap aside but now we’re going to be parents, I’m fed up and can’t take anymore.
Every time there is an issue, DP explains it away. He has been in the same room as us when she’s said certain things and he denies he’s heard them and then convinces me that they won’t have been meant in the context of the conversation. She has also previously said that if she’s having a bad day then he is supposed to cut her slack and question more why she’s said something mean rather than confront her, as that’s victim blaming (?). It’s very toxic and I can’t ever reason with it. I’m just told to get over it.

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Runmybathforme · 19/07/2022 19:29

Please don't marry this man unless you attend couples therapy. He is your problem, he doesn't have your back. Also, there is no chance I would let my child visit the PIL if I knew they were going to badmouth me.

billy1966 · 19/07/2022 19:34

OP,

I think you desperately need therapy to discover why your relationship bar is so low that you would remain with this excuse of a man.

He is with his family on his birthday.

He cannot be the briggtest button in the box to believe that cardiac arrest and resuscitation are part of miscarriages 🙄.

Having a baby with him is a mistake, marrying him, putting him on the birth cert will compound things.

You have nothing but drama and upset ahead of you whilst you stay involved with him and his family.

You have no idea how much you will love this baby, therefore highly unlikely you will be happy for him to allow his family unfettered access.

Women like his mother are the type to undermine a new mother and pour poison into the ear of a child.

If you think she is so awful and damaging to your MH, why on earth would you want her near your child?

You have NO idea how protective of your new baby you will be.

You don't have to rush to make any big decisions now, but do not marry this man until you have had your baby and see how he behaves over the next year at least.

You may finally see him clearly when you are a new mother and he is still believing his mothers lies about you and putting his family ahead of you.

You deserve better.

Cakecakecheese · 19/07/2022 19:35

I'm not a fan of people saying why are you having a child with this man when it's far too late but it did cross my mind to be honest. Your partner should absolutely have your back and he really doesn't. Once the baby arrives imagine all the nonsense his mother is going to spout and you will be tired enough as it is without having to show evidence to your partner that you shouldn't give whiskey to your baby or whatever.