Climate change: just how f***ed are we?

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Obviously it's on my mind at the moment and it seems that nothing of any significance is being done. Like we're just watching those juggernaut come down the road and not even trying to the move the car.

Anyway, as the title says: how awful will the future be? What is the most likely degree rise by 2100? What does this actually mean in reality?

Would love to hear people's thoughts and wisdom.

I volunteer myself not my children or husband. I don’t fly and reuse etc.
Are you willing to have no children/no car /fly etc to let the rest of the world use resources as the west does?
We need something like 3 earths for the whole planet to live like the west.

For us sometimes, maybe, but not for millions in developing countries who will suffer death, drought, extreme flooding, spread of disease, etc.

But hey, it's not us eh, we're ok, why should we care about other people?

(Obviously being facetious)

My husband is like this.

He reads about gas field emissions in Turkmenistan and feels like there's no point in switching the heating off.

I am in the contradictory position of having a nil estimate of humanity's capacity to solve the issue, but still have low-consumption habits. Which I suppose is a bit weirder.

(he does get annoyed at me for not engaging with recycling, but I point out that I provide the reduce and reuse functions for the household, rather than after the fact amelioration of consumption)

It's all so confusing, figures and facts seemed to plucked from everywhere. I see the scary posts on here but I have also read that we have had hotter periods during history (prior to 1860).

The world has been very very hot

Not compatible with human life hot

There are people who try to deny the problem - ah but it was hotter then or it's not caused by human

There are people who say it's not my problem ( it's China , it's over population , it's the rich )

And then there are the people trying to fix the problem who have less and less time to waste on the deniers and head in sanders

We don't need everyone to understand or act fortunately

We do need a touch more action

If we have more green electricity your fuel bills would be much lower

If we had more thought to food security your food bills wouldn't have risen so much

If we want to stop the migrant boats we need to stabilise the climate because at the end of the day they are seeking a better life because they're are living in counties that are struggling and drought and food scarcity leads to struggling or violent countries

I don't think that culling the elderly will solve the problem
I don't think we should cull the 10% if the world population that causes most of the emissions ( so not China or India )

Travel clean ( walk more get fit and save the nhs)

Eat less meat ( reduce your cancer risk)

Turn the heating down and insulate your home ( and save money )

Buy less, make things last, focus on experience and time not shiny new things ( save money , live happier )

Yes governments and business also need to do their bit

That will only happen if they can see it matters enough to you to change your behaviour

This is delusional. Nobody will be immune there will be a when and not an if. And before climate change hit us we might be hit with anticipatory wars over resources as food supplies shrink.

I find it chilling that so many people advocate genocide here as a solution.

By the way, it is consumption that matters and if the population halves, since there’s no Thanos to snap them out of existence, I assume they’re to die either in war or as result of catastrophic climate breakdowns either of these scenarios don’t bode well for the survivors. War will accelerate climate change and if billions die of hunger, heat and floods then we’ll have passed the point of no return, the point where nature will produce more green house gases than it absorbs.