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Child Maintenance/Blackmail

42 replies

FrustratedSA · 15/07/2022 13:30

Hello,

Popping this here for a bit of release and hopefully some advise although I have no idea where to start and will try to keep it short.

OH has been divorced for a few years now and has 3 children from the marriage.
As long as I have known him he has always has regular contact with the children and has paid child maintenance. There have been a couple instances where he has been late in paying or paid an instalments because of circumstances out of his control e.g when he lost his job during covid.

EX wife not happy with this took him to CMS and they reduced the payments he was making. He has paid each month until he was recently let go from his last role (business lost the contract) two months ago.

He just told me that if we don't pay her the missed payments then she will be dropping the kids on the doorstep Monday and they will be our responsibility e.g taking them to school, clubs and visiting friends which to me is blackmail.

For a bit of context - we have the kids every other weekend from a Friday to Sunday, two night a week for dinner and we also take then to an after school club one night a week. While with us on our weekends we take them to there extra curricular activities on the weekend. She has only ever dropped kids to us twice so we do all of the travel. Approx 45-1 hour each way.

We also have the children every half terms and for a minimum of two weeks over the summer holidays and the week between Christmas and New Year. OH wouldn't be able to go on holiday with me as he gives his ex all his annual leave entitlement for childcare. She wants me to give up some of my annual leave entitlement as he doesn't have enough to watch the kids. I've said no. Happy to help out but when needed but you're not having my annual leave.

Now she wants to take us to family court because 'we don't spend enough time with the children' . Last year she took us to small claims court for additional money and has said we've refused to pay for things like school trips and school uniforms. We haven't! The 50% of the trip was paid for even though she has told the children otherwise. For the School uniforms she's told us that we need to pay £700 for the 3 children. When we said we would be happy to pay 50% and could we see the receipts, she sent a photo of a pile of receipts. Happy to pay when we see the actual receipts so that I know what we're paying for (even I can chuck some receipts into a pile and say they are for something else).

Two days before Christmas advised us that she won't be sending the kids to us with any clothes and we needed to provide this when they are in our care so we had to do an emergency shop for at least a weeks worth of clothes for each child.

This is just some of a long list of issues that we are having to deal with and maybe IABU but ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Today it got to be too much.

OP posts:
999caffeineplease · 15/07/2022 13:38

Presumably if your OH is not working, there’s no reason he cannot look after his children? Especially if he’s not paying any CM.

Do the children not have any clothes at their dad’s home?

What does your OH think?

FrustratedSA · 15/07/2022 13:42

@999caffeineplease He hasn't been working but has just been offered a new position so will be going back to work.

They do have clothes at our home that we have provided. The previous arrangement was that they would bring clothes from home as it was covered in the CM.

Not really sure what he thinks, he's a really good dad that wants to spend time with his kids and provide for them, he's just being pushed to breaking point.

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trevthecat · 15/07/2022 13:52

I understand he lost his job but she still had to pay for the kids. She doesn't have a choice in that, why should he?

Helldiddleydingdongcrap · 15/07/2022 13:53

Nope, buying clothes to send with your kids is not what CM is for. CM is for the RP to provide for the DC, not for the RP to provide for the NRP. also yeah, if the father is out of work and not paying any maintenance, there’s no reason why he can’t have the kids more. Why does he think that’s unfair?

OP, why are you on here on his behalf? Isn’t he a big boy now, shouldn’t he be dealing with this himself?

It always depresses me when women come on here whingeing about how their poor partner has to pay CM and look after his own kids. This could be your kids one day, this could be the attitude he’s giving to you, and his flying monkey new girlfriend on here giving it large about what a bitch the ex is, so think on.

Blanca87 · 15/07/2022 13:58

How long have you been with this prince to be soooooo involved in this? He sounds like a total loser you’ve struck gold there, hen. 🤣

Amei · 15/07/2022 14:00

Blanca87 · 15/07/2022 13:58

How long have you been with this prince to be soooooo involved in this? He sounds like a total loser you’ve struck gold there, hen. 🤣

Any need for you to be so rude? OP is asking for advice, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.

Blanca87 · 15/07/2022 14:00

So he is at Breaking point because is needs to provide clothes, financially contribute and spend time with his kids…. Wow.

SlagathaChristie · 15/07/2022 14:00

Not sure why you're so involved. The mother and father need to sort arrangements for the kids, not you. If that gets in the way of the father's relationship, then unfortunately, so be it.

WeeHaggisFace · 15/07/2022 14:02

OH wouldn't be able to go on holiday with me as he gives his ex all his annual leave entitlement for childcare

You lost me here. He doesn't give his ex his annual leave. He uses his leave to look after his children. Grow up a bit.

Ontomatopea · 15/07/2022 14:02

She needs to stop including you in this narrative. You are not the parent. You don't have to pay for anything for those kids or give up your leave.

Blanca87 · 15/07/2022 14:03

Don’t come on a forum defending a loser who is at ‘breaking point’ because he is basically being forced to parent his children and expect kindness and compassionate advice. I will be as rude as I want to be about him, thank you very much.

Ontomatopea · 15/07/2022 14:03

Tbh it sounds like maybe a court order might help?

FrustratedSA · 15/07/2022 14:05

@SlagathaChristie We live together, I spend time with the kids and help as much as I can.

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RedWingBoots · 15/07/2022 14:05

His ex couldn't take you to Court whether small claims or family court because you are a non-related third party.

However she can take her ex to the small claims court or family court because they are her children's father.

Step back, tell your partner to parent his own childen himself and let him do it. His children won't thank you when adults for the fact that their father dumped them on another woman.

FrustratedSA · 15/07/2022 14:09

@Blanca87 You are of course entitled to your opinion but you don't know him and you don't know how much he provides for his children. He does everything for his children that he is physically able to do, he loves his children and has a great relationship with them.

You also don't know his ex partner and the issues that can be created between them.

If it makes you feel better to be rude. You're welcome. You're attacking a man when you should be attacking me as the post is about my frustration.

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OneForTheRoadThen · 15/07/2022 14:10

Why don't you have clothes at your house for the children? You don't expect them to come with clothes from home do you?

Why do you think you are doing something out of the ordinary taking them to their activities on your weekends?

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 15/07/2022 14:10

At breaking point because he is expected to perform the absolute bare minimum of fatherhood.
What a bloody Prince

Ontomatopea · 15/07/2022 14:11

OneForTheRoadThen · 15/07/2022 14:10

Why don't you have clothes at your house for the children? You don't expect them to come with clothes from home do you?

Why do you think you are doing something out of the ordinary taking them to their activities on your weekends?

My DSC prefer bring their clothes between houses but yes I agree some basics like pjs and undies would be helpful.

Ontomatopea · 15/07/2022 14:11

OneForTheRoadThen · 15/07/2022 14:10

Why don't you have clothes at your house for the children? You don't expect them to come with clothes from home do you?

Why do you think you are doing something out of the ordinary taking them to their activities on your weekends?

Because she's not their parent?!

OneForTheRoadThen · 15/07/2022 14:12

If he hasn't got enough annual leave to look after them for the 2 weeks of the summer holiday you said you have them for then you need to use a holiday club like other working parents. And he will need to pay for this if it is when the children are with you.

bluekostree · 15/07/2022 14:12

If he had full custody of the children he'd have to work it out. Why doesn't he suggest 50:50?

Baileysoncereal · 15/07/2022 14:13

These threads blow my mind

oh we didn’t pay because he lost his job!
tough shit
his kids still need feeding don’t they. They don’t stop eating because he lost his job.

what if she lost her job and stopped buying food and paying her rent?! That’s not an option for her, so why is it for the dad.

oh he gives up his annual leave to look after his kids. Like every other parent then?
And it’s not enough so she wants more
of course she does, what’s she meant to do with his kids when neither of them can get time off work, why is it her responsibility to sort?

‘it’s covered in CM’ is the most embarrassing thing anyones ever said as well btw. Because Is it though? Since he’s not been working I can’t imagine she’s getting much. Are you saying what he pays her genuinely covers half of what three kids cost her?

Poor guy being made to may for 50% of the costs of kids he 50% made

OneForTheRoadThen · 15/07/2022 14:13

@Ontomatopea I meant 'you' as in whoever is looking after them at their dad's house.

SoupDragon · 15/07/2022 14:14

OneForTheRoadThen · 15/07/2022 14:10

Why don't you have clothes at your house for the children? You don't expect them to come with clothes from home do you?

Why do you think you are doing something out of the ordinary taking them to their activities on your weekends?

Why wouldn't you send them with clothes from home? I sent mine with a small wheelie case each. They gathered some stuff there but of course I sent them with clothing. It would be ridiculously wasteful otherwise!

Ontomatopea · 15/07/2022 14:15

FrustratedSA · 15/07/2022 14:05

@SlagathaChristie We live together, I spend time with the kids and help as much as I can.

But she has no right to expect you to do anything, so she can't start demanding your holiday entitlement or your money. If he has no money he has no money. I think the court order would be beneficial for your DH and the children as there would be no risk of them being "dumped" anywhere that wasn't expecting them.