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To not understand why Penny Mordaunt is so popular?

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TheGeoffLinton · 14/07/2022 20:14

She seems to have loads of support. Does anyone know why? It seems like she’s come out of nowhere.

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sst1234 · 14/07/2022 23:28

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They do want Thatcher. But the thing is that calling Penny Morduant even a ‘Pound Shop Thatcher’ would be an insult to Thatcher. And pound shops. Thatcher was a woman of high intellect and steely determination - you don’t have to agree with her policies to admit that. Penny Morduant on that other hand has quite widely known to be a bit slow and dim by those who have worked with her.

Dreikanter · 14/07/2022 23:34

User135644 · 14/07/2022 21:42

Because a lot of them don't want Sunak to win and she's seen as the credible alternative.

Hmmm … non-white male against white female.

Quite a conundrum for the Tory faithful. I wonder which prejudice will win out?

MarshaMelrose · 14/07/2022 23:35

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/07/2022 23:16

She's been spending time on her bid for ages. She's been quietly, but openly canvassing MPs all year.

That's sensible, forward planning. It wasn't difficult to see that Johnson would be gone before the next election, why not get people primed for you? Anyone who didn't see what was coming or was unprepared, shows lack foresight and drive in my opinion.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 14/07/2022 23:39

I do think her bosom and hair combined with the thought of her in a Naval uniform might excite a certain type of person.

GreenLunchBox · 14/07/2022 23:44

Kidsaretryingtodestroyme · 14/07/2022 22:19

I was just about to say what PP said. What will the ‘I have no choice to vote Tory because they know what a woman is’ crew do if Penny ‘TWAW’ wins?

Something tells me they will still vote Conservative and will find another ‘reason’ why.

That would actually be hilarious. So sick of that "at least the Tories know what a woman is" line on every thread, no matter what vile thing the Tories have been up to that day

But I suspect you are right that it's just an excuse

TullyApplebottom · 14/07/2022 23:51

GreenLunchBox · 14/07/2022 23:44

That would actually be hilarious. So sick of that "at least the Tories know what a woman is" line on every thread, no matter what vile thing the Tories have been up to that day

But I suspect you are right that it's just an excuse

Even by MN standards this is nuts

ThreeLocusts · 14/07/2022 23:53

Much though I detest Laboour's fence-sitting on women's sex-based rights, I don't understand how anyone could vote Tory over this. It demeans the issue if you treat it as a reason to support those cruel, cynical, toxic, nasty people.

As for Mordaunt, honestly I have no idea. The anti-Sunak? A shire-dweller's wet dream? The least known thus least embarrassing? Search me.

TullyApplebottom · 14/07/2022 23:54

Dreikanter · 14/07/2022 23:34

Hmmm … non-white male against white female.

Quite a conundrum for the Tory faithful. I wonder which prejudice will win out?

That would be the party which has had two female leaders to labour’s zero? The party where half the candidates for this election were from minority ethnic groups while Labour can still only produce fat pompous white male lawyers as leader???

StoneofDestiny · 14/07/2022 23:54

in The Guardian

Readers should recall that the Tory leadership candidate Penny Mordaunt is best known for persistently purveying falsehoods during the 2016 EU referendum campaign. During a TV interview with Andrew Marr, playing on fears of mass immigration, she claimed that Britain would not be able to stop Turkey joining the EU

As a former EU ambassador to Turkey, I can confirm that Turkey was not and is not in line for EU membership. Its membership of the EU customs union does not grant it free movement of people. Britain always had a veto over any aspiring member, and if Mordaunt had previously had any credibility, her infamous dishonesty about Turkey destroyed it. I thought part of the reason for ditching Boris Johnson was his habit of lying

Michael Lake, EU official and diplomat, 1973-2001

stuckdownahole · 14/07/2022 23:59

sst1234 · 14/07/2022 23:28

They do want Thatcher. But the thing is that calling Penny Morduant even a ‘Pound Shop Thatcher’ would be an insult to Thatcher. And pound shops. Thatcher was a woman of high intellect and steely determination - you don’t have to agree with her policies to admit that. Penny Morduant on that other hand has quite widely known to be a bit slow and dim by those who have worked with her.

Even Thatcher's detractors, of whom I am one, would agree that she had a brilliant intellect and unbelievable work ethic. There is a theory that her habit of only sleeping four hours per night (in order to get more work done) was a cause of the dementia to which she succumbed in later life.

Penny Mordaunt has a 2:1 from Reading ...

Charlize43 · 15/07/2022 00:03

I overheard someone in a restaurant say that they thought she had fabulous hair!

I did momentarily think Catherine Deneuve but it really isn't that lush or spectacular... I also suspect that Penny might have split ends.

There's so much bad hair in Parliament. Poor Liz Truss - like a brittle old rat.

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/07/2022 00:08

It shows a lack of responsibility and desire for personal glory @MarshaMelrose. Are the Tory party really going to go down that road again?🤦‍♀️

honkeytonkwoman38 · 15/07/2022 00:08

Because Tories are stupid!

loldawg · 15/07/2022 00:09

SirVixofVixHall · 14/07/2022 21:28

Yes she would be a disaster for women, she is a traitor to her sex.

aNy OnE 1 DiSsAgReE wItH iS a TrAiToR tO tHeIr SeX1111111

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2022 00:12

TooBigForMyBoots · 15/07/2022 00:08

It shows a lack of responsibility and desire for personal glory @MarshaMelrose. Are the Tory party really going to go down that road again?🤦‍♀️

Of course they are. That’s literally who they are, none of them are there out of altruism.

TheHuntingoftheSnark · 15/07/2022 00:25

Because 70 year old Tory boys who read the daily Heil fancy her.

HRTQueen · 15/07/2022 00:28

I think she has that let’s get on with it with no fuss appeal that many like in the Tory party and is appealing to some voters

she doesn’t come across as awkward as LT or as desperate as RS and I think it’s accepted his wife’s statues isn’t good for votes

and she has changed her mind or apparently never believed what she was saying on the trans position, Tories have no problem backtracking if it possibly means more votes

I was hoping it would be Jeremy Hunt but knew they wouldn’t be that stupid

StoneofDestiny · 15/07/2022 00:37

while Labour can still only produce fat pompous white male lawyers as leader?

Fat?
Pompous?

I couldn't give a monkeys if the leader is white/black/male/female.............I do care we do not have a lying and convicted criminal as PM......and the only alternatives on offer from the Tories are those who supported lying, convicted PM. The current PM's obesity is also irrelevant.

loldawg · 15/07/2022 00:45

StoneofDestiny · 15/07/2022 00:37

while Labour can still only produce fat pompous white male lawyers as leader?

Fat?
Pompous?

I couldn't give a monkeys if the leader is white/black/male/female.............I do care we do not have a lying and convicted criminal as PM......and the only alternatives on offer from the Tories are those who supported lying, convicted PM. The current PM's obesity is also irrelevant.

To be fair that was in response to someone chuntering on about how much the tories apparently ‘hate’ women and ethnic minorities, when in fact they’ve made two women PM and half of the cabinet are BAME. PP was just pointing our Labour’s record isn’t as good on this.

ilovesooty · 15/07/2022 00:48

TullyApplebottom · 14/07/2022 23:54

That would be the party which has had two female leaders to labour’s zero? The party where half the candidates for this election were from minority ethnic groups while Labour can still only produce fat pompous white male lawyers as leader???

Whataboutery. Tiresome.

Blossomtoes · 15/07/2022 00:52

ilovesooty · 15/07/2022 00:48

Whataboutery. Tiresome.

It’s all they’ve got.

VeniVidiWeeWee · 15/07/2022 01:09

Whataboutary?

Mr Starmer happily served in an opposition led by an anti Semite.

SpaceGoatFarm · 15/07/2022 03:33

People dont actually really vote for the conservatives because they 'know what a woman is'. They vote for them for the usual reasons, otherwise they would be voting for the communist party who are actually gender critical (and not just out for the hatred of LGBT people) en masse

Debbiedoodah · 15/07/2022 03:38

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That's well known to be Liz Truss though not Penny Mourdant

SpaceGoatFarm · 15/07/2022 03:42

Thr labour party sctually have more ethnic minority and women candidates than the other 0arties putmtogrther,

So are conservatives into voting for useless people just for 'woke points' or not? I dont get it.