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To ask my NDNs to stop parking their crappy cars outside my house?

78 replies

RishiRich · 14/07/2022 10:11

Of course there is a diagram.

TLDR: neighbours I don't really know are taking up all the on-street parking with abandoned (but usually taxed) cars, their own cars and work vehicles. WIBU to ask them to cut it out?

Long version:
Background info: I live on a fairly busy road. Both sides are terraced. The houses on the other side of the road all have drives. Their side of the road has double yellow lines. The houses on my side can't have drives as we're up a steep verge. Some people have a parking space around the back of their houses, reached via unpaved access roads. There's also on-street parking on my side of the road. Parking is a problem as there isn't enough room for everyone and visitors.

One house over the road is an extended family with several adults. They have a car each, plus 2 work vans and a fecking minibus. They have 3 parking spaces on their property but that's not enough for all their vehicles. When there isn't enough on-street parking, they park full on the pavement on their side of the road. It's usually overnight. Sometimes they get ticketed but that doesn't seem to bother them.

So far, so annoying. We've both lived here for over 10 years. They're perfectly nice and we wave but we don't have a chat because we live either side of a busy road.

Last year, they started buying crap, broken down cars with bits missing and parking them on the road. They then leave them there for weeks. I didn't realise it was them at first and reported all the cars as abandoned. Some of them were taxed, some not. Some got towed away. Some disappeared and were replaced by new crap cars.

Now they're taking up over half the parking spots on our stretch of the road. I've checked and they're all taxes but just sitting there, slowly rusting.

WIBU to ask them what they're doing with all these cars and tell them it's causing a problem for visitors?

To ask my NDNs to stop parking their crappy cars outside my house?
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turquoisebuttons · 14/07/2022 10:14

Oh god this sounds so annoying. I think it is very reasonable to have a friendly chat about it and ask if they can park them elsewhere. But if they refuse I don’t know what you can do as it sounds like the cars are parked legally.

Fingers crossed they move house 🤞

ThreeLittleDots · 14/07/2022 10:16

You wouldn't be unreasonable to politely enquire but they are not doing anything illegal, so I'm not sure how far you'd get. Unless they're running a used car business and not declaring the income!

Itsbackagain · 14/07/2022 10:16

Public road, cars are legal, nothing you can do. What relevance is the age and condition of the cars to the post?.would you not object if they were new and shiny? You could have a drive-you would need to dig out and build a retaining wall but everything is possible.

Dotjones · 14/07/2022 10:17

YANBU to ask but don't expect a positive outcome. If they were nice people they'd know that it's rude to leave semi-scrap vehicles outside other houses for weeks on end, or to leave so many vehicles on the street preventing others from parking normally.

They're probably within their rights to leave the cars there. Unless they're running a business and there's a covenant or something prohibiting that.

Branster · 14/07/2022 10:20

I loooove you diagram!!!
Sorry no sensible advice on the matter unfortunately as I wouldn't even know where to start.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 14/07/2022 10:23

Have they got valid MOTs? Are they road worthy? You say parts are missing so probably not.

I'd keep reporting as abandoned and also contact the council to say you think they are running a car sales business as most councils don't allow that from home.

tokyotea · 14/07/2022 10:25

Excellent diagram.

RishiRich · 14/07/2022 10:26

I can't have a drive at the front of my house (complicated shared-access path, plus the verge is about 10 feet high so it would undermine the stability of the entire terrace and give pedestrians an interesting dip). I do have parking for two cars behind my house, which we use as DH and I have a car each to get to work.

Yes I know it's a public road and they can dump their rust-buckets on it as long as they're taxed, but it's pretty selfish IMO. I have no idea why they're there. They have flat tires, smashed sides, broken windows and the neighbours never do any work on them that I can see. They're not drivable. Last summer I had scrap dealers knocking on my door asking if they were mine.

Neighbours already have 8 cars/vans that they actually use. That's never bothered me. Just dumping scrap cars in limited parking spaces does.

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RishiRich · 14/07/2022 10:27

I'm glad my diagram is acceptable <bows>

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WayDownIGo · 14/07/2022 10:30

I understand it's annoying, it'd irk me too. But think you've just got to get on with it as they're taxed.

Have you checked of they're insured? Maybe that's the route to go? Report if they're not insured?

WayDownIGo · 14/07/2022 10:32

Is this of any interest?

To ask my NDNs to stop parking their crappy cars outside my house?
peridito · 14/07/2022 10:34

8 cars ,a van and a minibus !!

I'd keep reporting as abandoned and also contact the council to say you think they are running a car sales business as most councils don't allow that from home.

Good advice .

ShirleyPhallus · 14/07/2022 10:36

Yeah it’s annoying but legal unfort. You have 2 parking spaces anyway.

Want2beme · 14/07/2022 10:41

Your explanation was very clear, and your diagram is the best I've seen.

How many vehicles in your household? Could you ask them to leave enough space for them, at least?

I wonder if they're buying & selling? If so, that's probably illegal.

Call the council and ask if there's a limit to the number of cars any one household can park in the same street🤷‍♀️, and to get some advice.

Blossomtoes · 14/07/2022 10:41

If I had two parking spaces of my own I wouldn’t give a shit.

MugginsOverEre · 14/07/2022 10:45

There was a family on MIL's naice" street who did this. They were a dodgy lot as it was (feral gang of kids, police visits, day drinking and throwing their empty cans in their garden type) and they completely trashed the front, side and back gardens of the house by parking a bunch of scrap cars, then filling the street up with scrap motors. Many of which were on bricks. There was even a huge multi car transporter taking up a few spaces. The whole street just kept reporting and reporting the vehicles and the family for running a business from there. It was their only recourse. Eventually the family moved on in the middle of the night. They then did it to another street though. But as they do, they did a moonlight flit again and came back to another house on MIL's street 6 months later. Suddenly every single household on MIL's street stopped using their own drives and needed to park on the street. As soon as one of his cars left, neighbours would rush out and fill the space with their cars. He was forced to stop using the house as his business premises because he couldn't park anywhere near it. I have no idea if it was an organised thing or the street saw what some were doing and decided to join in but good for them. It worked.
OP, just keep reporting his business. You cannot run a business from home if it affects neighbours adversely whether it's noise, extra traffic, customer parking or in this case, basically keeping stock on the street.

RishiRich · 14/07/2022 10:46

It affects me because having visitors or getting things delivered is a pain because there's no parking for them. Sometimes I just want to swing by my house quickly to drop something off or pick up one of the kids, rather than going the long way round (adds about 10 minutes) but I can't because there's no space. The road is busy so you can't even just pull to the side for a minute without a queue of honking cars building up behind you.

Great Google find! I'll call the council and see what they can do. Probably nothing.

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ELM8 · 14/07/2022 10:48

A* for the diagram and yes I would definitely say something, it would drive me up the bend.

Ncwinc · 14/07/2022 10:48

5* diagram

Snowflakes1122 · 14/07/2022 10:51

YANBU to be annoyed about it. Not very considerate of them to use the road to store lots of crappy broken cars.

But it’s not really an issue if you have two parking spaces behind your house.

Love the diagram!

Withthewind · 14/07/2022 11:01

We have a small communal car park about 4 spaces , although it’s next to my house (end terrace) and when I open my front door I’m standing in the car park, and all the other houses surrounding the car park have either driveways or parking outside their house.

theres 2 abanadoned cars in there with completely flat tyres, cobwebs all over, still have a tax disc in

FirstFallopians · 14/07/2022 11:09

There was something similar happened in our street, but not to the same extent.

We live in an ex-council estate in a very naice village. Neighbour from round the corner invites her younger brother to stay. He promptly fills the sizeable front garden with knackered old bangers, 4 in total, with some of them on bricks. This goes on for a number of months, with little indication that he’s committed to sprucing them up and selling on.

Other Neighbours with illusions of grandeur start a petition(!) under the guise that the shitty looking cars and general state of the front yard have lowered the house prices in the estate and the general tone of the area. They presented the petition to the home owner, who was very upset.

Instead of getting her brother to move the frigging cars, she went to considerable expense fencing in her front garden, but at least she’s done something to mitigate the impact on those living around her.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 14/07/2022 11:14

I lived on a terraced street and know that even 1 family with multiple cars can cause complete misery. I think there should be a rule about work vans on residential roads - they block so much space and most of the people who have them have other vehicles too. One lovely neighbour of mine dealt in furniture and had a massive panel lorry on our street, so if it was parked in front of your house it completely blocked all of your light and was all you could see. I told him to move it once when it had been outside my house without moving for 2 weeks and he acted astonished. I think if you are an arse enough to do this in the first place, you wont respond well to polite requests. They also used to paint and varnish furniture in the back of it which was lovely for the rest of us.

Plantstrees · 14/07/2022 11:18

I would keep reporting the vehicles as abandoned. If they are not roadworthy (even if they are taxed) then they risk getting towed.

Cyw2018 · 14/07/2022 11:25

They need to be road worthy not just taxed. Damaged body work with any sharp edges is illegal, as are bold tyres etc. So report report report.

Also take pics. I'm not sure that it is legal to run a business from a public road, or certain businesses from residential properties without change of use, so report your concerns to the council/local councillor.