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Baby in car seat next to me whilst having a pedicure

90 replies

mackthepony · 12/07/2022 18:21

Prepared to be told IABU.

Came for a pedicure. One seat left, and in the seat next to me is a baby in a car seat. Mother is next to him on other side.

Baby looks around 4 months old. Dummy in, peaceful (so far).

Aibu or do you not bring a baby to a beauticians?

OP posts:
Lmes · 12/07/2022 19:09

YABU . I find the noise of other people chatting getting their nails done more annoying . The constant ringing of phones notifications of texts etc is very irritating . The noise of music playing in salon drives me insane. I think a 4 month old sleeping baby would be no issue .

HermioneKipper · 12/07/2022 19:11

FlissyPaps · 12/07/2022 19:00

You are right! I go for a relax. What if the child woke up? Are we all meant to smile indulgently.

If you want to relax, then go to a spa. If the child wakes up, then you mind your own bloody business. So many entitled twats on here.

Hahahaha other people are the “entitled twats” for getting childcare and going somewhere where you wouldn’t expect children and be unamused when there’s children there because those entitled people demand to take their children with them 🤣

I said I wouldn’t have an issue if the kids were quiet but how can you comfort your baby if you’re in the middle of having your nails painted?!

est1899 · 12/07/2022 19:13

What would you have liked her to do with it? Leave it out on the street?

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 19:15

mackthepony · 12/07/2022 18:24

Can you explain why the baby shouldn't be there?

^

It's a place where people go to relax ( and maybe escape their own children). If baby starts screaming and she's mid - polish, it might disturb the clients?

If that happened she could take it out.

FlissyPaps · 12/07/2022 19:19

HermioneKipper · 12/07/2022 19:11

Hahahaha other people are the “entitled twats” for getting childcare and going somewhere where you wouldn’t expect children and be unamused when there’s children there because those entitled people demand to take their children with them 🤣

I said I wouldn’t have an issue if the kids were quiet but how can you comfort your baby if you’re in the middle of having your nails painted?!

You really are entitled to assume everybody has access to childcare and think these ladies have no right to a treatment. What other people do with their kids is absolutely none of your business. You have a disgusting attitude.

If you don’t like seeing children and babies in salons, then go to a salon that has a policy where under 18s are not permitted in the premises.

I said I wouldn’t have an issue if the kids were quiet but how can you comfort your baby if you’re in the middle of having your nails painted?!

When a technician is working on one hand, the other hand is usually dry. But like I said, what other people do with their kids is absolutely none of your business.

1Wanda1 · 12/07/2022 19:21

I went for a pedicure the other day and took my 3 year old and had her in buggy beside me. She sat quietly playing with a toy and watching TV on the iPad. What's the problem? What else are parents supposed to do if they have no one to look after the kid?

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 19:26

Giraffesandbottoms · 12/07/2022 18:46

I would be curious to know what the plan is in the event that the baby wakes and cries and she has wet nails. If the plan is to just shush a screaming baby and do very little else (what else could she do? She can hardly pick him up or leave) then I don’t think it’s impressive or considerate, no.

the fumes are a whole other issue, and I think it’s stupid and selfish in that regard too! Poor baby.

having nails done is just something to forgo for a bit if you have small children and no appropriate childcare, it’s not exactly a huge sacrifice is it.

As I understand it she was having a pedicure, so unless she typically comforts her baby by poking a big toe in its mouth, I’d say it was probably not a problem?

And if not, if the baby wasn’t crying it wasn’t a problem. Lots of people on here seem to be really focused on problems that didn’t occur.

Personally I don’t think a nail salon is meant to be a relaxing environment anyway. They’re usually really noisy and full of people chatting. I don’t even have kids but I couldn’t give a shit about a baby, in a car seat, asleep. I wouldn’t be spending my appointment stressing about the vague possibility of it waking. I’m sure its mum knows its sleeping habits.

HermioneKipper · 12/07/2022 19:28

FlissyPaps · 12/07/2022 19:19

You really are entitled to assume everybody has access to childcare and think these ladies have no right to a treatment. What other people do with their kids is absolutely none of your business. You have a disgusting attitude.

If you don’t like seeing children and babies in salons, then go to a salon that has a policy where under 18s are not permitted in the premises.

I said I wouldn’t have an issue if the kids were quiet but how can you comfort your baby if you’re in the middle of having your nails painted?!

When a technician is working on one hand, the other hand is usually dry. But like I said, what other people do with their kids is absolutely none of your business.

Well that’s sort of the point isn’t it. Of course it’s my/someone else’s business if some random child is disturbing me while I’m spending money and have time away from my own kids.

as I said - no issue if they’re quiet.

While my twins were babies and looking after them was all hands on deck situation, I just didn’t have treatments. It’s hardly essential is it

Discovereads · 12/07/2022 19:30

YABU to say no babies ever
YANBU to question why the baby was in the car seat for ages, it’s actually dangerous to use a car seat instead of a pram as a place for a baby to sleep due to the risk of positional asphyxiation.

Nanny0gg · 12/07/2022 19:31

mackthepony · 12/07/2022 18:24

Can you explain why the baby shouldn't be there?

^

It's a place where people go to relax ( and maybe escape their own children). If baby starts screaming and she's mid - polish, it might disturb the clients?

If you're that close to the other client then it's not relaxing as you'll be privy to each others' conversations

Mangofandangoo · 12/07/2022 19:34

This is very odd OP. Not sure how you can get so rattled by the thought that a sleeping child might cry

Last time I was having my nails done I had to listen to a very loud lady bleating down the phone to her friend. I suggest we ban those people too

FlissyPaps · 12/07/2022 19:39

@HermioneKipper Well that’s sort of the point isn’t it. Of course it’s my/someone else’s business if some random child is disturbing me while I’m spending money and have time away from my own kids.

as I said - no issue if they’re quiet.

While my twins were babies and looking after them was all hands on deck situation, I just didn’t have treatments. It’s hardly essential is it

It really is not your business though. Not in the slightest. That’s why you’re entitled. You think you have the right to peace and quiet just because you’re in a salon. Everybody else inside a salon has as much right to be there as you. Even when they have their children with them. You sound awful.

“No issue if they’re quiet”. 😂Seriously, who do you think you are? The world does not revolve around you and your “relaxation” time. Babies can be noisy. Children can be noisy. Adults and OAPs can be noisy. Deal with it. Want to relax? Go to a spa.

Not sure what your twins have to do with this? You’re essentially looking down on mothers who dare to treat themselves to a beauty treatment. What’s the shame in that? Again, you sound awful.

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 19:46

stratforduponavon · 12/07/2022 18:57

You are right! I go for a relax. What if the child woke up? Are we all meant to smile indulgently.

I have never taken my children to the hairdressers. However a few years ago I was sitting next to a women who was clearly there to have highlights and cut.

Her children (probably 3-4) were running around and bored senseless. They got in the way of the hairdressers with sharp sissors, hairdryers, cables and in the end the owner had to ask one of the juniors to take them downstairs and play with them.

Our beauty salon says no one under 16. If you really cannot find anyone to mind them, no friends, no family, no partner then what about a mobile hairdresser. That way you don’t end up risking annoying people by having a screaming baby.

My knowledge of babies is scant but I have observed on many occasions that they are capable of being awake without crying and also that if they do, parents are usually quite good at shutting them up by plugging a dummy in them, pulling stupid faces or handing them something made of plastic, that kind of stuff. So yeah, an indulgent smile seems all right.

It’s inappropriate to take a four-year-old to a hair salon it’s the type that can’t behave. But on the few occasions when there’s been a small child at my hairdresser’s, they’ve just been sitting there with a game on a tablet or a colouring book or something.

cadburyegg · 12/07/2022 19:46

YABVVVVVU

HermioneKipper · 12/07/2022 19:47

FlissyPaps · 12/07/2022 19:39

@HermioneKipper Well that’s sort of the point isn’t it. Of course it’s my/someone else’s business if some random child is disturbing me while I’m spending money and have time away from my own kids.

as I said - no issue if they’re quiet.

While my twins were babies and looking after them was all hands on deck situation, I just didn’t have treatments. It’s hardly essential is it

It really is not your business though. Not in the slightest. That’s why you’re entitled. You think you have the right to peace and quiet just because you’re in a salon. Everybody else inside a salon has as much right to be there as you. Even when they have their children with them. You sound awful.

“No issue if they’re quiet”. 😂Seriously, who do you think you are? The world does not revolve around you and your “relaxation” time. Babies can be noisy. Children can be noisy. Adults and OAPs can be noisy. Deal with it. Want to relax? Go to a spa.

Not sure what your twins have to do with this? You’re essentially looking down on mothers who dare to treat themselves to a beauty treatment. What’s the shame in that? Again, you sound awful.

Youre entitled to your opinion, as am I.

The OP asked for people’s thoughts. I gave mine, there’s places where you expect children to be and places you don’t.

You sound like the sort of person who wouldn’t care if your children disturbed everyone else no matter where you are. Thoroughly unpleasant

alphapie · 12/07/2022 19:49

YANBU

I don't know any salons that allow babies or children in for this very reason, it's a place many go to relax. Many can't do that with a child around.

I'd have upped a left and made it clear why

FlissyPaps · 12/07/2022 19:54

HermioneKipper · 12/07/2022 19:47

Youre entitled to your opinion, as am I.

The OP asked for people’s thoughts. I gave mine, there’s places where you expect children to be and places you don’t.

You sound like the sort of person who wouldn’t care if your children disturbed everyone else no matter where you are. Thoroughly unpleasant

There’s a stark difference between my opinion and yours. Sadly you haven’t the emotional intelligence to understand going to a salon doesn’t equal a relaxing time. As I’ve said previously, if you want to relax, visit a spa or a salon that has a policy where under 18’s are not allowed on the premises.

I’d say it’s thoroughly unpleasant to assume mothers aren’t entitled to a beauty treatment or visit to a salon if they have a child with them who may or may not disturb the peace.

Awful entitled attitude.

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 19:55

Discovereads · 12/07/2022 19:30

YABU to say no babies ever
YANBU to question why the baby was in the car seat for ages, it’s actually dangerous to use a car seat instead of a pram as a place for a baby to sleep due to the risk of positional asphyxiation.

According to official advice you can leave a baby in a car seat for two hours. A nail job doesn’t take anything like that long. I have a full set of dip powder nails done each time and it takes 50 minutes - and that includes the time it takes to soak off the old set. A standard manicure or pedicure would be quicker.

In any case, given that the mother wasn’t driving and didn’t have to keep her eyes on the road, I’m fairly sure she would have been to able to watch the baby to make sure it didn’t turn blue and die.

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 20:03

I'd have upped a left and made it clear why

How is the mere presence of someone else’s sleeping baby affecting your ability to relax? Have you got some sort of phobia?

”I have never been so disgusted in all my life. How dare you make me sit in the same room as a silent, sleeping infant? This is INTOLERABLE. Good day to you, Madam. I SAID GOOD DAY!” [exits to Wicked Witch of the West’s theme music from The Wizard of Oz.]

Cantanka · 12/07/2022 20:05

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 19:15

If that happened she could take it out.

Well, she can’t because she’s mid pedicure. That’s half the issue.

I think whether OP is unreasonable depends on the type of salon. I got my nails done every 3 weeks for years in all sorts of salons. Some are loud and bustling, some are more going for the pamper vibe.

I would add that my regular nail treatments stopped when I had children. Wouldn’t have dreamt of taking my baby with me to breathe in those fumes, and not having your nails done when your kids are small is not actually a particularly big sacrifice. Surprised at all the people saying “so are mothers of babies supposed to just never get their nails done” as though it isn’t a completely optional luxury.

alphapie · 12/07/2022 20:06

ManateeFair · 12/07/2022 20:03

I'd have upped a left and made it clear why

How is the mere presence of someone else’s sleeping baby affecting your ability to relax? Have you got some sort of phobia?

”I have never been so disgusted in all my life. How dare you make me sit in the same room as a silent, sleeping infant? This is INTOLERABLE. Good day to you, Madam. I SAID GOOD DAY!” [exits to Wicked Witch of the West’s theme music from The Wizard of Oz.]

Babies tend to cry, anyone with children can attest to a baby can be sleeping soundly one minute, screaming blue murder the next.

I go to a salon to relax, away from my child so why would I want to be shoved next to someone else's.

I don't know any salon that allows children, for this very reason.

Perfect28 · 12/07/2022 20:12

Loki01 what if the baby needs tending to? What is the plan for when baby is no longer a baby?

CatsareMyBoss · 12/07/2022 20:14

Can't vote but YANBU. I never took mine anywhere like that as babies as they never settled unless being held. I didn't think it fair to inflict that on people in a grown up/relaxing environment.

I recently saved up and went for a massage. There was a mum with baby next to her in car seat having a manicure in the front part of the salon. Baby was shrieking. Ear piercing screams. Obvs mum had wet nails and so did nothing about it. I could hear it for the entire time of my massage in the back room. I kept hoping her nails would be nearly done and she'd leave, but I don't get manicures, so all I can guess is it must take ages and she didn't want to ruin them by picking baby up to comfort or just leaving.

I understand the salon couldn't exactly throw the mum and baby out but I don't think places like that (especially charging £££ for services) should welcome babies/toddlers. I do get that mums want to go out too, but it was not fair at all on other clients or the staff, never mind the clearly pissed off baby. Stressful for the mum to hear too no doubt, but that was my very precious time to relax, I had saved for ages, it cost me a lot of money, was a nightmare to schedule between work and kids, and I couldn't switch off at all. I don't get child free spare time very often so why does a mum's desire for nails to be done outweigh my desire not to hear babies in what I assumed would be a peaceful place?

Hardbackwriter · 12/07/2022 20:23

I feel like this thread is a classic example of the 'on AIBU the OP is always in the wrong' phenomenon. I am so certain that if the OP had posted saying she was going to take her own baby to a nail salon she would have been slaughtered for it.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 12/07/2022 20:54

I find babies far less annoying than another customer on their phone!

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