To use a sauce in a jar

[Izzy24]

Dated June 2020? The lid doesn’t bounce in the middle.

How did people survive before BB dates. Open it, smell it, taste it. All ok? On you go

Seriously, the inference is that is its been opened already its not safe if its past its best before/use by. My point stands.

Your point is incorrect. You agreed with the comment...

If the lid doesn't pop/bounce it has opened at some point.

That's not true. It's incorrect. The opposite is true.

Heat sauce until bubbling for a few minutes. That helps kill stuff off.

This! Its no longer sealed. I wouldn’t eat it and I’m someone who doesn’t really take any notice of use by dates.

I'm not arguing with you any more on this. You do what you want. I'm confident in my position.

Oops yes this is right!! If it doesn’t pop it’s still sealed 🙈

Get it down you OP!

Absolutely!!!! 😂😂😂

I decanted them from a packet into the jar ☺️

😂😂😂👍😂😳

@Izzy24 you can probably stew the prunes to create an ice cream or yoghurt topping.

You are wrong, though!

You understand the principle but I think you are struggling with the language a bit?

Once the vacuum seal is broken the safety button pops up. This can only happen once. It is then possible to depress the button with the finger, to "bounce" it. OP says the safety button doesn't bounce. Therefore, the jar was never opened.

Nooooooooooo! No way. If you'd ever had food poisoning you'd never eat a single thing past it's use by or best before! Just the thought of it gives me diarrhoea

@AquaVite Nonsense! I was horrendously unwell with food poisoning after eating frozen haddock that was past it's date. I knew it was that as I had t eaten ANYTHING else! This was back when I had only just got somewhere to live after being homeless over a year. The pack of frozen haddock was the only food I had for days.

17 years old I was. Very, very sad times

Doesn't unfortunately. Otherwise food hygiene wouldn't matter for food that's going to be cooked! Raw food would not be recalled by supermarkets over salmonella fears etc

My hunch about the frozen food that's made people ill is that it was already contaminated before it was frozen.

Re the jars - yes, I'd use them. I'd just make sure the food was cooked very thoroughly indeed.

I wouldn’t

My hunch about the frozen food that's made people ill is that it was already contaminated before it was frozen

No food is sterile, it all contains bacteria / toxins in varying amounts, even if it's vegetarian. Freezing will slow the growth rate but at a certain point the levels surpass the use by guide.

I am sure zigzag won't be back but I need to say you are wrong!

Jarred food with a lid is vaccume sealed. If the lid does not move/pop when pushed then it is still vaccume sealed so not opened since it was produced.
If the lid pops when pressed this means air has got in to the jar therefore it has been opened.

So you may be confident in your position however your position is wrong. I know this as I used to work for a well known jarred food company.

Just to say that you cannot freeze food indefinitely and assume it will always be ok.

your freezer has a star rating. This varies from a tiny freezer shelf inside a fridge to a large chest freezer. If you stuck a leg of lamb in either of those, yes they’d be ‘frozen’ but the freezer shelf would not be as cold and the lamb would not keep as long. So is it possible to become ill from frozen food? Absolutely.

Nonsense! I was horrendously unwell with food poisoning after eating frozen haddock that was past it's date. I knew it was that as I had t eaten ANYTHING else! This was back when I had only just got somewhere to live after being homeless over a year. The pack of frozen haddock was the only food I had for days

Okay, then your haddock would have made you ill whenever you ate it. It wasn't because you ate it past the use by date, from the freezer. It was something fundamentally to do with that food item - not the freezing process.

Freezing something won't eliminate an existing bacteria.

Yuk

If you stuck a leg of lamb in either of those, yes they’d be ‘frozen’ but the freezer shelf would not be as cold and the lamb would not keep as long. So is it possible to become ill from frozen food? Absolutely

Bacteria cannot grow in completely frozen food, in a correctly maintained freezer that maintains a stable temperature that is appropriate for the food it contains.

The nutritional value will decrease, the food quality will spoil, freezer burn will occur, it will start to taste crap, etc. over time, but bacteria cannot grow in these ^^ conditions.

Freezing something won't eliminate an existing bacteria.

As per my last post though… Freezing a food does not eliminate the rotting process.

it wasn't because you ate it past the use by date, from the freezer.

it may have been, if it was a 2 star freezer and it was a year over the date for instance

As per my last post though… Freezing a food does not eliminate the rotting process

Absolutely, in that it's losing nutrients and vitamins. It's deteriorating, but not becoming inherently unsafe, provided the right conditions in terms of initial freezing and temperature control and so on, are constantly met.

Have you lot never heard of botulism? You say the lid doesn't pop so you dont know if it is safe. I would chuck it.