Britain is not ready for BAME PM

[notnever]

Rishi might just be voted by MPs but will not win general elections. Already we are reminded he is rich, has an US Greencard, cut taxes, unrelatable, wife is rich and did not pay tax, did not declare tax, etc, as if any different from Boris.

Do you think Britain is ready for BAME PM?
Yes = you are unreasonable
No = you are not being unreasonable

NB, you don't have to explain whether it makes Britain racist or not. I am personally happy he is standing for leadership, it will be his good reminder (as many of us BAME know) racism trumps social class.

I wouldn't vote for Sunak, but I actually agree that in some respects it would be easier for a non-white Tory, the same way Thatcher was the first woman. It seems counterintuitive but that's how it seems to go.

Easier for a non-white Tory than Labour, not easier for non-white over white.

Actually, you're showing ignorance here. BAME is not used as many, rightly, point out that it is othering. www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/style-guide/writing-about-ethnicity#bame-and-bme

Of Punjabi origin is a more appropriate descriptor, if one is needed to describe Rishi Sunak.

I think a minority of voters would consider ethnic origin of any candidate and vote against anyone not White & British. This minority would only affect outcome if it was otherwise a close race. I've no idea how big this minority is, but it is not the 52% who voted for Brexit, which not a vote about race.

Why are some people so desperate to make out the UK is extremely racist.

I def wouldn’t vote for him but nowt to do w his colour or heritage. I wouldn’t vote Tory, ever.
i still rather him than Boris, who I really can’t bear to look at.

I wouldn't vote for him and it is nothing to do with being BAME

The Tories were always going to have a "BAME" PM before Labour. Same as they had a female PM when Labour haven't even managed a female.leader.
Nothing outrages the left more than someone from an "oppressed" group escaping the plantation and being successful without the help of the left. Their racism is pretty breathtaking honestly.

I won't vote Rishi because I fundamentally disagree with the Tories and will never vote for them. I'll vote green or labour.

It's really telling the 'this isn't about race it's about his behaviour' voices on this thread. People knew who Boris Johnson was when he got his 80 seat majority. No-one is surprised when he spends £3k on a drinks trolley during a national crisis. Rishi couldn't be that person. He has to be completely above reproach. As do all black & brown politicians.

Like it or not that's racism.

If you don't like Rishi for his tax avoidance, rich upbringing, glossy websites, conservative family values etc then don't be a Tory - that is literally the epitome of the party.

So come on OP please let us know should Britain just be voting for a candidate just because they are BAME to tick yet another magical box or vote for the best one put forward.

The type of argument you are putting forward is what causes the most division and you clearly know it. People should always be picked on skills and the best person for the job not because your determined to tick a box and unfortunately this is why there is a strong silent undercurrent growing in this country of discontent.

Yep this.

It’s good as time goes on we get to see more diverse and varied faces leading the country. It will hopefully over time inspire more towards success instead of being caught in the learned helplessness trap.

Get a grip OP- finding racism where there isn’t any. The only person I’ve heard mentioning his race is you, what does that say?

I wouldn’t vote for him because I don’t trust him, no matter what other MPs think or do. Why has this anything to do with his ethnicity?

Except the 'plantation' reference I agree with you. And I'm a lifelong bleeding heart leftie. I think there's something rotten at the heart of Labour. Not labour, you understand, Labour. A racist, sexist core. And it makes me very very unhappy.

White, male champagne socialism is killing the left.

If vote for Javid

*I’d vote for Javid

OP, I hear you and I don't think this is a goady question. I know many Black and Brown people who have been having this conversation.

I will not vote for Rishi as he has put the highest taxes on us for decades and, if he is leader I bet the living crises will just get worse under him.

Nothing to do with BAME.

Are we going to have one of these threads everyday? If they pick a BAME leader it will be because of some nefarious reason like thinking that person may win the next GE.

If they could pick a woman leader (twice vs 0 Labour and have the most gay Mp’s) they can cope with a brown person.

There is something really off about this constant “they hate you!!” Narrative coming out of the left at the moment. I’m waiting for the thread calling all BAME tories uncle toms and coconuts. I just feel like that one is coming.

Really, I’m BAME and no-one I know has said that, more along the lines of “oh god no not Rishi, he’ll keep taxes up”.

The problem with Sunak is not his colour. It's the privilege his colossal wealth brings. He supported Boris's Tory leadership campaign and I would query his judgement on that and now on financial matters.

I wouldn’t vote for him because he’s so privileged and disgustingly rich that he has no idea how the rest of us live.

couldn’t give a shit about his ethnicity.

Btw I do think racism is alive and well, it’s just assuming that the entire tory parliamentary party AND all party members are obviously rabidly racist is a bit if a stretch.

Btw Rishi is the front runner atm with MP’s declared for him, those bastards supporting that brown persons candidature!

I agree, I think there is a fundamental problem with Labour that needs to be unpicked. Trade Unions are traditionally strong in male dominated industries and they've allowed professions that have far higher female workers to be ignored and then exploited. They've done that by being gender-blind.

And yet the steps forward under Harriet Harman's direction were huge. Imagine where we could have been if Labour had had the courage to elect her rather than 3 terms of Blair/Brown.

I think Angela Rayner will have a similar effect. She is where she is without confirming to middle England's expectations of how a woman should present and behave. Centrist voters would be far more comfortable with Yvette Cooper as PM but Labour needs AR to modernise.

I actually think he has a chance tbh and that the UK would be ready for it. Not sure he has the experience or grit tbh but after bojo people may fancy a less conniving politician. I do also note that his wealth and privilege is always talked about as if we don't have plenty of other white politicians who are the same - I mean they're all mostly privileged including Starmer. But a lot of the liberal left like their BAME people in a box, vulnerable and in need of help, where they can play white saviour, and I think it's a new dawn when we suddenly have more minorities in leadership positions than ever before.