Why do some people think Corbyn was a ‘terrifying prospect’?

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Taking a quote from a comment made on another thread.

I am not massively engaged in politics, but from what I understand Corbyn was pro-environment, pro-public services and re-nationalisation, he was a man who lived according to his own values.
He was laughed at for riding a bike and making jam. He was accused of being anti-semitic, though I didn't see any persuasive evidence of this, and- though not wanting to engage in whataboutery- Johnson’s awful racist remarks didn’t prevent him from gaining power.

I understand that people will have disagreed with him in policy. But what about him was did people feel was “terrifying” and so beyond the pale?
If Boris was electable and Corbyn was not I feel there must be something horrific about Corbyn that I am missing?

Haven’t read the full thread so apologies if this point has been made, but I was particularly disturbed by Corbyn’s relationship with Russia. This country already had a dangerously submissive attitude towards Putin (Theresa May’s handling of the Litvinenko murder whilst she was Home Secretary was appalling) but for me, when the Salisbury poisonings happened it confirmed for me that Corbin was an active threat to our national security. We can’t have a Prime Minister who borderline encourages the poisoning of British Citizens on British soil.

I’ve been proven right now Putin has invaded Ukraine, we need a strong attitude towards Russia and Putin now more than ever. I worry about what would have happened if he had been elected in the current conflict.

I was also disturbed by his response to anti-semitism in the party.

That's a brilliant thread.

It's odd how you can feel so happy for someone who is just effectively words on a screen.

I remember Jeremy Hardy (a friend of his) joking about this- not that he was a poor leader but that he simply didn’t believe in leadership or hierarchical structures. So being “leader” of the Labour Party was always a slightly ironic position.

Oh absolutely personality has played a huge part in politics the past decade at least.

Fuelled by social media and msm.

It's not a great way to run though.

America did it with Trump. They now have a Starmer equivalent.

We did it with Boris - the next few years will be interesting.

If he'd won we'd be much better off. He'd have renationalised the energy companies (a key policy), would have reinvested in public services and we'd have avoided the national self harm of Brexit and the toxicity of the referendum and been better placed to cope with a pandemic.

Not that it would have been perfect by any means but the media tycoons weren't having him because he demanded the Leveson inquiry and vowed to enact the recommendations which Cameron vowed not to in exchange for Murdoch's support.

Got any examples of successful socialist regimes OP?

Verse Six, which is often left out now

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Ha! Mic-drop!!

This doesn't hold fire too much when we know how far into Russian money the story's are too.

Russia has far to much power full stop.

Oh yes, right on time. Socialism has never been allowed to work by the US. The most predictable line.

And there you go the OP is a troll, it was obvious from the start.

I prefer the Wikipedia article, which states that this verse only ever had any use in, about, 1746 (just after an army of Scots approached London) and was never part of the National Anthem.

You and Zarquon didn't do your homework before posting.

I spoke to someone who is very Tory and actually a friend of mine which is bizarre, anyway he’s ex-military from what I can gather quite high up back in the day and apparently there was a military coup being planned if Corbin gained Power. I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

He’d have broken up the pharmaceutical companies.

The ones that saved millions of lives with their vaccines.

Oh yes, right on time. Socialism has never been allowed to work by the US. The most predictable line.

I'm not a socialist. I was just pointing out the difference in how our own failing economic model regularly collapses but is bailed out by public money or printing more.

@itsgettingweird I both agree and disagree. As I mentioned in my post, the Tory government have had a terrible way of dealing with Russia since they came into power. Salisbury was a direct result of Litvinenko etc. And dirty Russian money in this country has been a massive problem (and going on for longer - the previous Labour governments were involved in this as well). But for me when Corbyn’s Russian sympathy went somewhere much more concerning and his suggestions in the aftermath of Salisbury were really frightening to me. I think it’s pretty obvious Corbyn wouldn’t have imposed the sanctions that this government have done, for example. And I am very proud to live in a country which has sanctioned Russia in the way it has.

In that sense he really is no different than any other man who has claimed the successful outcome of a woman's work for himself, now is he?

If the work goes pear shaped though, obviously the woman is entirely to blame...

Oh don't remind me of the Ed Miliband election. Just too depressing to even contemplate that missed opportunity. Some people date the death of David Bowie as the day the world turned to shit, but I reckon it might be eight months earlier, the day Cameron beat Miliband.

@User135644 You know Corbyn is actually pretty anti-EU? His lacklustre response in the Remain campaign is probably a key reason why we ended up voting to Leave. He’s a major part of the reason we’re in this mess.

Why are PPs saying this govt has taken the Tories further right? I know it's fashionable to say now, but - excepting Rwanda - I see recent policies such as furlough, lockdowns and tax rises as anti-Conservative.

Personality has alway come into politics it’s nothing new just there are more platforms now. To pretend it doesn’t or should matter is naive

and many of us who strongly dislike Corbyn are labour members/supporters that is why we are so angry the party has been dragged backwards and will take years to recover. We didn’t vote Tory and wouldn’t be as are politics are not conservative.

and Corbyn did become a personality leader who can forget the embarrassment of Labour Live the far left and idealists student politics has no place in parliament and certainly not driving the opposition where the fuck has it got us we all know a Tory government with an 80 seat majority

The party membership that Corbyn and co banged on about constantly shows you how ridiculously out of touch they were and now Labour have to recover from that

Got any examples of successful neoliberal capitalist regimes?

Oh dear, it hasn’t worked out too well for the UK has it?

That you used the word ‘regime’ suggests you are trying to provoke a reaction rather than actually being interested in the answer.

But for anyone else reading who genuinely is interested, look at the social democracies of Europe. More emphasis is placed upon investing in infrastructure and people to result in a society that functions more effectively. Most countries that work better politically than the UK have some form of proportional representation as well.

I was talking about 'Chaos with Ed Miliband' not Corbyn. Ed wins in 2015 and there's no referendum to start with.

*and no Corbyn

*shouldn't matter