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To go on a plane with covid?

410 replies

Coursha · 09/07/2022 08:38

I have covid right now and due to fly to Spain in a few days. The rules are that I just need to show my vaccine pass but doesn’t seem to say don’t travel of you have covid. Can this be right? Don’t know if I need to cancel. I tested positive 4 days ago.

OP posts:
SummerLobelia · 09/07/2022 09:29

Spinfit · 09/07/2022 09:16

If you are concerned about passing it on, try and get hold of a LFT (they aren't very sensitive but are specific) - any NHS worker can get a box from the government website (I think there are other non NHS people who can as well) and then the guidance for us is test on day 5 and day 6, if both negative then stop isolating (basically we need two negatives before returning to work but they have to be done from day 5 onwards).

Just to say you can get LFTs from Tesco. (It;s my current source. )

TheKeatingFive · 09/07/2022 09:30

and be careful sanitise what you touch with wipes or gel

By the by, but there isn't really any point in doing this. We now know that the risks of fomite transmission are vanishingly small.

Wearing a high grade mask on the other hand is a good idea.

ApplesandBunions · 09/07/2022 09:30

crimsonlake · 09/07/2022 09:22

Op if you had initially given the whole story in the first place obviously people would have been less judgemental.

TBF the original post contained all the information needed to make it clear that OP would be well past even the recommended isolation period in government guidance. People who are self-indulgent and naive enough to criticise her anyway are hardly going to moderate that because they find out it's her family holiday.

Notanotherwindow · 09/07/2022 09:31

Selfish twats like those on this thread who would get on a plane while sick and contagious are the reason my little niece will never be able to have a holiday abroad. She has no immune system due to her cancer treatment. Covid would be a death sentence to her. Chicken pox nearly killed her even having had the jab.

There shouldn't have to be a law against deliberately risking others lives for the sake of a bloody trip. But I'll tell her to work on her resilience.

Dandy45 · 09/07/2022 09:31

Coursha · 09/07/2022 09:19

Hmm, that’s quite a mixed response. It’s our family summer holiday, no one else has it yet and I’m trying to isolate myself. I don’t feel well, symptoms started on Monday and I tested positive on Wednesday. Travel is early hours Wed morning so day 7/8 from positive test.

I obviously don’t want to infect anyone on a plane and want to go by the rules but that’s the problem, I don’t know if there are rules for vaccinated people. If I was unvaccinated I would have to have a negative test before travelling.
I have insurance but would it cover if I’m not breaking any rules by going?

Thanks for the replies, bit disappointed by those of you who are so judgemental as it’s obviously not black and white.

Government website, Spain entry: At least 11 days must have passed since your first positive COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) or rapid antigen test.

Badger1970 · 09/07/2022 09:33

Current guidance from the Government is that you're unlikely to be infectious after 5 days. I had to look yesterday as we had a staff member test positive on Wednesday (thankfully they were on leave) and they're coming back in on Monday.

Coursha · 09/07/2022 09:33

crimsonlake · 09/07/2022 09:22

Op if you had initially given the whole story in the first place obviously people would have been less judgemental.

@crimsonlake Not sure about that to be honest! My first post more or less tells the whole story in that I tested positive 4 days ago and travel in a few days ie Tues night/Wed morning.

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Notanotherwindow · 09/07/2022 09:33

My reply by the way was aimed at those saying it's not the law so do as you please.

OP is out of the isolation period and won't be contagious anyway so this won't apply to her. Just so sick of seeing people justify this sort of thing by saying its no longer a legal requirement.

VioletToes · 09/07/2022 09:34

MillyMoo1113 · 09/07/2022 08:41

See that's probably why I have covid. Cos I went on a plane and someone was a daft as you. And now I've had to cancel my weekend plans, which is affecting my mental health, and my DD is terrified of getting it as isolating/being at home will massively affect her mental health. And she already has enough issues.

See the big picture and think how many lives you could affect.

You went on a plane during a pandemic of a highly infectious virus, didn't think you'd catch it, and you're calling someone else daft 😂

Lots of people are asymptomatic, or did you forget that info?

TheKeatingFive · 09/07/2022 09:35

Selfish twats like those on this thread who would get on a plane while sick and contagious are the reason my little niece will never be able to have a holiday abroad

I do mean this kindly, but given the high levels of asymptomatic covid and limited testing, no one would ever be able to guarantee a covid free plane for your niece. It's just not possible.

Pancakeorcrepe · 09/07/2022 09:38

Covid is everywhere. We have vaccinations and now just have to get in with our normal lives. Do you test for all other illnesses every day? Of course not. Every day out there we meet people with colds, flu, chickenpox, Covid, all sorts of illnesses. It has always been like that, we’re just adding one more illness to the list for which there are vaccinations. Someone writing here about her niece with no immune system, that is very sad. But if you have no immune system, your life is going to be impaired in significant ways and it is not because of people’s behaviours, it is because you have a severe health issue.

dianthus101 · 09/07/2022 09:40

The sensible thing is to go from when you started your symptoms rather than the positive test, so if you are going next Wednesday it will be 9 days so probably not very infectious (if at all). I would probably wear an FP2 mask on the on the plane though.

wonderstuff · 09/07/2022 09:41

I wouldn’t worry about it at all. You’ll be over the recommended 5 day isolation and chances are since no one has to test and covid is rife the plane will be full of people with Covid who aren’t aware they have it.

Don’t know why people are getting grumpy with you op, sounds like you’re being very responsible, testing and thinking about your impact on others.

motogirl · 09/07/2022 09:41

If you already have it you will be fine by then, most people are only positive for 3-5 days, if you had a more serious bout of it you wouldn't be asking because you would feel too ill to travel. Half of my work currently has it (or has in the past week) 2 days, was the shortest positive time. I didn't even test positive though I think I had it from symptoms

MargeSimpson79 · 09/07/2022 09:42

Notanotherwindow · 09/07/2022 09:31

Selfish twats like those on this thread who would get on a plane while sick and contagious are the reason my little niece will never be able to have a holiday abroad. She has no immune system due to her cancer treatment. Covid would be a death sentence to her. Chicken pox nearly killed her even having had the jab.

There shouldn't have to be a law against deliberately risking others lives for the sake of a bloody trip. But I'll tell her to work on her resilience.

I am very sorry for your niece but that’s just really not the case is it. Yes there may be some people who travel knowing they have covid but there are likely to be many many more people who are travelling whilst unwell with something else or indeed simply have no idea they have covid. I had it at the start of the year and only knew because I work in a school and we were still doing weekly testing. I didn’t have a single symptom. None at all. There will be many people in a similar situation who simply have no idea they are unwell.

If your niece is that much at risk then travelling like that is just not viable full stop so I don’t see the need to get that worked up over the odd person who may make a decision to travel when they are unwell. They are not the reason your niece maybe shouldn’t be going on a plane.

PatientlyWaiting21 · 09/07/2022 09:42

You won’t be the only one, you are correct, I’d still go, mind you I wouldn’t of tested in the first place. COVID is going nowhere. You wouldn’t cancel if you had the flu, which people end up just as Ill with! Soooo much hypocrisy here.

Coursha · 09/07/2022 09:42

Dandy45 · 09/07/2022 09:31

Government website, Spain entry: At least 11 days must have passed since your first positive COVID-19 nucleic acid amplification test - NAAT (PCR or similar) or rapid antigen test.

@Dandy45 I saw that section but it’s under the proof of covid recovery certificate so it has to be between 11 days and 6 months of a positive test to get this certificate so someone unvaccinated for example. Under vaccinated individuals it says there are no restrictions and no forms to complete.

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Dammitthisisshit · 09/07/2022 09:42

I’m CEV with cancer, DH is currently on his way back from Spain (having delayed his trip by months whilst I was in chemo) by plane, picking up god knows what, and I’d say go.
You’ll be over the worst and most infectious period. If you were a child you’d be back in school after 5 days (and that’s if someone bothers testing and following guidance).
but… I’d test the whole family before you to. There’s a good chance you’ll have passed it on to some of your other family. And they’d then be infectious whilst travelling.

GreenWheat · 09/07/2022 09:43

Notanotherwindow · 09/07/2022 09:31

Selfish twats like those on this thread who would get on a plane while sick and contagious are the reason my little niece will never be able to have a holiday abroad. She has no immune system due to her cancer treatment. Covid would be a death sentence to her. Chicken pox nearly killed her even having had the jab.

There shouldn't have to be a law against deliberately risking others lives for the sake of a bloody trip. But I'll tell her to work on her resilience.

But wouldn't that be the case for your neice even pre-covid? People on planes may have all sorts of viruses they don't know they have, that could seriously harm an immuno suppressed person. It is a really awful situation for your neice but it isn't the rest of the world's fault.

Ninjasan · 09/07/2022 09:44

Just go on your holiday. I don't test anymore as there are no free tests available. I don't have nice unlimited sick allowance at work so there is no fully paid COVID self isolation for me. I just treat it like any other cold. Would you go on a plane with a cold?

chilledbubble · 09/07/2022 09:44

If you do go can you make sure you tell your fellow passengers as you get on so they can get off?

theworldsgonefeckingmad · 09/07/2022 09:44

How are people even testing I didn't think you could get tests anymore?

Tandora · 09/07/2022 09:44

If you were symptomatic and positive at the time you got on the plane, I think it would be a pretty crappy thing to do , regardless of the “rules” and vaccination status. However, getting on a plane 9/10 days after you started your symptoms and 7/8 days after a positive test sounds completely fine! Enjoy your holiday.

QueenofDestruction · 09/07/2022 09:45

Its so selfish, because people want a holiday they don't care about spreading covid around the country they are travelling, around the hotel, restaurant staff etc whose wages may be affected if they get sick.Spain is entering the 8th coronovirus wave and in the south hospitalisation has doubled in the last month. Largely caused by selfish tourists.

teraculum29 · 09/07/2022 09:45

Coursha · 09/07/2022 09:33

@crimsonlake Not sure about that to be honest! My first post more or less tells the whole story in that I tested positive 4 days ago and travel in a few days ie Tues night/Wed morning.

Op,
wait with cancellation as of yet.
Do test on Mon, if neg you are safe to fly on Tues night.
if still positive on Mon then unfortunatelly you need to cancel your flight, or rebook for later.