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To think job adverts should state the pay

45 replies

NeedAHoliday2021 · 08/07/2022 23:59

I really annoys me that more and more jobs in my chosen career don’t clarify the pay. It varies widely and from those that do state pay can range from £30k in London (because there’s competition and they know someone will accept that) to £150k from organisations that value the role. I’m currently earning somewhere comfortably in between but wouldn’t bother applying for lower range roles. Increasingly, adverts aren’t giving the pay grade at all.

I don’t understand - I don’t want to waste my time but equally I don’t want to waste theirs.

if you are an employer, please state the pay in your advert!

OP posts:
Threetulips · 09/07/2022 00:00

And if it’s part time state the expected days/times and if it’s a 4 hour contract but expected 30 hours a week / put that in there too.

Pleasetohi · 09/07/2022 00:03

I agree but it’s probably to stop current employees seeing how much the newbie is going to be paid.

Frustrating though!!

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/07/2022 00:05

I agree. We're all supposed to pretend we're working for the lark? No, I need to pay to keep a roof over my head.

Covidagainandagain · 09/07/2022 00:08

I totally agree. I'm also in a job that pays from 30k up to 130k and it amazes me how often employers don't at least put a pay range on the advert.

I tend to assume if there is no payscale they are much more likely to be around the 30k mark and so last time I was looking for a job I only applied for roles with the pay clearly stated in the advert. The only one I did apply for that didn't have a payscale was looking for someone with 130k experience for 32k.

I am lucky that there were a lot of jobs going for the role I do though, if there were only a few I might not have been able to restrict myself to only ones that showed the pay. (actually I was really lazy and only applied to jobs I could 'quick apply' through linkedin for. Anything that involved attaching a CV and filling in an application form where I repeated all my CV information I just ignored)

SQLserved · 09/07/2022 00:12

Totally agree. I skip straight past any job advert that doesn’t state the pay range, it’s not worth my time.

Fenella123 · 09/07/2022 00:13

My old company didn't state pay in the adverts and it drive us all NUTS, because every.single.time!! we would get friends going,
"I did see your place was advertising an interesting job, but they didn't put pay range on, so I assumed it would be shit and didn't apply"

We told them again and again that this wasn't helping but they never seemed persuaded!

Covidagainandagain · 09/07/2022 00:14

SQLserved · 09/07/2022 00:12

Totally agree. I skip straight past any job advert that doesn’t state the pay range, it’s not worth my time.

Your user name made me chuckle!

Original poster
NeedAHoliday2021 · 09/07/2022 09:43

Yep, exactly that - I don’t bother looking if there’s no pay as I assume they want top skills for terrible pay.

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AllFreeOwls · 09/07/2022 10:00

Total agree.

perimenofertility · 09/07/2022 10:53

Totally agree. Either no salary given or "competitive salary", which is equally useless - competitive compared to who?
I never bother applying for a job which doesn't include salary details.
Imagine going around a supermarket to do your weekly shop and there are no prices on the shelves?

NoSquirrels · 09/07/2022 10:57

I totally agree. But it can definitely be worth just a quick email to the recruiter or HR name on the ad, politely enquiring for a salary range. If they still won’t commit, don’t apply, their loss. If they tell you and it’s crap, don’t apply. If it’s reasonable then make your decision on that.

bbqhulahoop · 09/07/2022 11:00

YANBU. I've been interviewing loads recently and they want me to tell them what money I want and insist there isn't a scale which makes it super awkward because I don't want to be unrealistic but I also don't want to undersell myself

DragonflyNights · 09/07/2022 11:00

Yep or they state full pay but says it’s part time
hours and don’t say how many girls - so are we talking 21, 28, 30?? Who knows!

I’ve also, unbelievably, seen ads for fixed term roles with zero info about how long the fixed term is or if there is chance of a renewal (i’m in third sector so often posts find further funding every couple of years or there are certain roles where funding will always be used for them but work on fixed terms).

Or where they give salary scale depending on experience but then at interview say policy is for everyone to start at the lower end - then it’s not hiring someone and negotiating salary is it?

DragonflyNights · 09/07/2022 11:01

How many HOURS 😳

ComDummings · 09/07/2022 11:04

Should be illegal to post one without the pay and the hours stated

PowerhouseOfTheCell · 09/07/2022 11:07

YANDU I went through a two stage interview process just to be told they could only offer me £5k below my current salary Confused absolute waste of everyone’s time

Harridance · 09/07/2022 11:10

Slightly different note, I'd like it if for sale signs also had the ball park price!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 09/07/2022 11:13

I strongly agree. In the past, if I was interested in the job, I would contact the organisation to ask them to clarify the salary. Applying for a job consumes my time, and I have no intention of booking time off work and putting myself through an interview only to be offered the same salary in already on.

If they wouldn't clarify it I just didn't pursue it any further.

devildeepbluesea · 09/07/2022 11:16

I agree with this. It’s a colossal waste of everyone’s time if it turns out the salary isn’t enough r the candidate.

I don’t usually bother to apply for roles where salary isn’t stated.

Snoopymcsnoopface · 09/07/2022 11:18

I never apply for jobs that don't stay pay, benefits and expected hours. I assuje its either as the pay is terrible or they want to barter the successful candidate doen as much as possible based on what they currently earn, which I also refuse to disclose for that reason. If I'm looking for a new job it's not because I want matched terms, it's because I want better terms in a new company.

LoveLarry · 09/07/2022 11:20

Harridance · 09/07/2022 11:10

Slightly different note, I'd like it if for sale signs also had the ball park price!

It takes seconds to google that though.

Iamnotamermaid · 09/07/2022 11:21

Totally agree, at least provide a salary range based on skills and experience. If it is not mentioned it will be the minimum they can get away with.

Thisisit2022 · 09/07/2022 11:24

Yes! Many years ago I went for a job at a large, local newspaper for something that sounded right up my street. When I got there it was one of those awful, group interview, cutthroat things - pitting candidates against each other in tasks. It was only during the first break that they mentioned that the salary was £13,000 (this was about 1999). I can't believe I was the only person who didn't stay for the afternoon! I didn't need a job that badly to beat Nigel in making cardboard models.

glamourousindierockandroll · 09/07/2022 11:30

I agree. I've emailed before to ask about salary range and have always been fobbed off with 'competitive', to be discussed at offer.

maryleboneym · 09/07/2022 11:34

It's utterly pointless

Especially when they say competitive but only prepared to pay £30k