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getting a gastric band at 20?

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amykg · 08/07/2022 16:15

hey all x

so I’ve never been a slim girl but I had my dd really young (i was 17). i’ve struggled really badly with my size since then and i’ve got really overweight.

i’ve tried all the usual stuff, slimming world, slim fast, calorie counting, but haven’t found anything where i can get the weight off and keep it off.

my parents sat me down last week and told me that for my 21st birthday present that they would give me the money to have the gastric band operation if i want to do it.

I’m obviously super grateful to them for the offer and i said yes because i want to be healthy and a good role model for my dd. but now i’ve had time to think i’m wondering whether its the right decision at my age because its such a massive life choice and whether i just need to try harder losing weight myself

am i being unreasonable having second thoughts about such an amazing offer?

OP posts:
PeggyGa · 09/07/2022 09:09

It’s Overeaters anonymous a bit like AA but for food issues

ISeeTheLight · 09/07/2022 09:18

OperaStation · 09/07/2022 06:47

is your under active thyroid being treated?

Yes I am on 50mg levothyroxine. They won't increase it because my "blood results are fine".

Cherrysoup · 09/07/2022 09:58

This group is very helpful re payment options/personal experiences: www.facebook.com/groups/1523401171294285/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=2911779175789804

OperaStation · 09/07/2022 10:43

ISeeTheLight · 09/07/2022 09:18

Yes I am on 50mg levothyroxine. They won't increase it because my "blood results are fine".

If your blood results are fine then it’s unlikely your under active thyroid is contributing to your weight.

MsOllie · 09/07/2022 11:28

@OperaStation yes I have hashimotos and I'm medicated for it. TSH is about 1.2 so pretty "normal"
Also on some other medication as I have weird other conditions which mean I'm immunocompromised/fatigue all the time
I lose if I cut down to 1000 cals or so but with the fatigue, exercise, and history of an ED I'm trying to avoid calorie counting

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/07/2022 11:46

Carpy88999 · 09/07/2022 08:20

By losing all the weight you put a mirror up to your so called friends and families own failures and they didn't like it. People are horrible and jealous when they see others succeed. Congratulations on your weight loss journey it's not easy but the rewards are worth it!

Thank you - I do want to stress that I don't see it as a 'weight loss journey', though - the weight loss has been a side effect of what I've done.

Focusing upon weight loss means to me concentrating upon negatives - the 'you can't do it', the 'you can't eat that', the 'you'll just have to feel unhappy because you're not allowed to do anything else to give you a break from those feelings'.

But focusing upon activity is a positive.

Activity lets me leave those voices behind in my past. It enables me to focus upon counting reps or the sensation in my muscles or what is coming through my earbuds, not the shitty things. It gives me a rush of endorphins or the ability to trick my body into thinking 'well, you were anxious/upset/angry/feeling threatened, but you've just done the fight or flight thing instead of freezing and trying to quieten your distress with particularly unhelpful food. So you can relax, you're safe now'.

The food that I eat fuels and repairs and enables me to get the most positive sensations and effects from doing physical activity.

Learning to be that aware of my body, I also learn to listen to what I actually need to eat; If I crave say, a burger, I have a burger because I'm craving fat and protein and salt and salad; but instead of a half pounder with processed cheese slices in a giant crappy bun that's only there to make it possible to hold the thing up, all the onion rings, chips, mayonnaise, ketchup, a can of Rio and because I've fucked the diet now, might as well have the ice cream and some chicken wings for later, I have what I actually want - a thick, pure meat, burger. And pecorino cheese. And an egg. And tomatoes. And some mushrooms. And onions. And gherkins. And the onions/mushroom are cooked in chilli garlic oil. I'm still eating far fewer calories than the takeaway version, but I'm also eating a wider range of nutrients - and I don't feel sick and like a failure because I just couldn't use willpower ignore my body telling me what I needed.

The idea of willpower being all that is needed is the same as saying 'you just have to think yourself well' - or using the analogy of food being used as a crutch, it's kicking the crutch away from somebody with a weak, wasted leg from being in a cast and saying 'now go and run a marathon' or WLS being the equivalent (to ME) of 'You broke your leg badly. You can't walk anymore because when I took your crutch away and told you to run a marathon, you couldn't. Might as well get a wheelchair as your body's changed permanently and nobody's ever able to walk properly again after that, so you might as well not bother'. Except that unlike a wheelchair, WLS carries a risk of death, like all surgery It's not giving you a chance to rehabilitate, to learn that whilst it might feel uncomfortable and scary, you can regain strength, function and range of movement and the pain will decrease, even if there is still some evidence of the injury in scarring. You won't necessarily look like somebody who has never broken their leg, but that's OK.

The time where it is hardest is when I get home from work and I'm tired, achey and cranky. I tell myself 'I can go for just ten minutes and if I'm still not feeling it, I can stop. Ten minutes is better than nothing'. Once I've got there, I've never done just ten minutes - I'll bargain in my head with a 'Well, you're here now, might as well give it another ten minutes and then you can go home'. By that point, the endorphins are kicking in and I've already done twenty minutes.

We're powerless to change what has happened in our pasts. But we do have the power to change how we deal with things right now. Some people make that change by handing the power over to somebody to perform drastic surgery so they have no choice but to endure the results, whether that's having unpleasant consequences from attempting to get past the post surgery restrictions and then avoiding them, risking their lives in surgery itself, or accepting the permanent changes somebody has made to their body and knowing they mustn't risk the ten grand or whatever it costs to them or their family. And some are able to change in ways that are not dependent upon anyone else forcing changes upon them. I'm amazed I'm one of the latter. But I am - and only found that out once I listened to what I wanted to do and feel like, rather than what I wanted to look like.

If that's interesting to the OP or anybody else, I'd say think about it. Even if you do ultimately have WLS, it's what you're going to have to do for the surgery to be successful long term. But it could mean that you don't have to. And avoiding permanent changes to your body, the increased risks of anaesthesia and the pain or ultimate health issues/discomfort has to be worth thinking about, rather than going straight to 'You'll never do it, just have the surgery'.

amykg · 11/07/2022 12:06

thanks to everyone for the advice i really appreciate it.

i have been to my doctor previously, done the weight management classes, etc. believe me when i say i don't consider surgery an easy option, i just don't want to keep getting bigger for my daughter's sake.

OP posts:
JellyBellyNelly · 11/07/2022 12:14

Gastric Bands aren’t really done anymore.

see a surgeon and let them decide what surgery would be good for you.

Is 20 too young to have it done? No. Not at all.

chouchoutan · 11/07/2022 12:25

I'm 2 weeks on from having the ESG procedure. Similar to the gastric sleeve but done endoscopically by 'pleating' the stomach lining rather than physically cutting it away.

The procedure itself was really straightforward, my issues post op were a week of really bad nausea and sickness from the anaesthetic but that's done now and am looking forward.

I don't think 20 is too early if you're the right candidate. It's the lifestyle change afterwards that's most important I think. It's not a sure fire fix - you still need to make an effort but hopefully it makes it a lot easier when you're not feeling hungry all the time!!

Prancingponies · 11/07/2022 12:27

I had a mini gastric bypass almost 9 years ago now. Like the others I would not recommend a band, as the long term outcomes don't tend to be as good.

I would, and indeed have, heartily recommended it to others. Even providing support and advice to a friend who went through the surgery last year.

I was entitled through the NHS, due to being diabetic. I am now considered as pre-diabetic because my blood sugar levels are back to within the normal range.
I would say do it to anyone who has weight issues. The earlier the better. Once you've tried everything it is a solution.

But, and it is a big but: It is not an easy solution. The NHS way involves a lot of counselling, and seeing if you can make the changes needed as well as cope with the major operation involved. It is a completely different way of life than you are used to.

That said I am doing great 9 years on. I'm a size 12-14 and lead a very active life having taken up horse riding as my form of exercise (they recommend that too!)
I do have lose skin, but it doesn't bother me at all.

Good luck.

D0lphine · 11/07/2022 12:42

Such interesting insights on this thread.

Your parents are wonderful to offer you the money.

I'm certainly no expert but I know that diets fail the majority of the time, and that weight loss surgery has much higher success rates.

Why don't you give natural weight loss your absolute best shot for a year and see how that goes? You can still get your surgery at 22 if it's not working?

CambsAlways · 11/07/2022 14:05

I don’t think people are being unkind when they are saying educate yourself with your eating patterns they are trying to help you! You have a lot of weight to lose you are young you do whichever suits you best op, I’m sure your weight didn’t go on overnight, but you are asking for advise I wouldn’t be going down the surgery route, but I’m not you, I’ve educated myself on the reasons I got very fat I was eating ALL wrong foods I also have health conditions that caused weight gain, I’d had enough of being fat having had a light bulb moment and decided enough was enough , like you have, I want to wish you every success in what you decide to do love,!

sashh · 12/07/2022 02:11

MsOllie · 08/07/2022 21:56

@Glitterspy but that doesn't always work! It's like when the doctor suggested to me to try some gentle walking as if I don't exercise just because I'm fat

Today I had
A tuna, sweetcorn and salad sandwich for lunch, banana and some Greek yoghurt
Cottage pie (400g portion homemade with lots of veg in) for tea, and some steamed veg on the side
Grapes (handful)
Mugs of tea (no sugar) and about 2.5l water

I do 30-90 min spin classes almost daily, plus stretching and weights and some barre/yoga. I started doing that in feb, didn't change my diet and have lost zero despite going from doing nothing to doing loads

What part of that food should I cut out because I'm already not eating breakfast. I don't move during the day because of my job hence why i exercise at night

Looking at that I would say your diet is high in carbs.

The sandwich -
what type of bread are you using?
Did you have butter on it?
Was there any mayo?

Have a look at the yoghurt, if it was low fat then it probably had more sugar.

The cottage pie, again is heavy on carbs.

Do you have milk in your tea?

I think you need to have some breakfast, but I'm no expert I'm learning as I go but generally the more 'complex' a carb is the better for you, it keeps you full longer and it takes your body more effort to digest, so your body uses more energy just digesting.

The cottage pie - could you swap the potato for sweet potato?

Make the sandwich with a bread containing grains, or swap for a baked potato. If you use butter / spread try just buttering one side, or swap the butter for mayo, not a huge amount, spread it with a knife like you would butter.

I know it's not easy.

This is quite a useful link.
www.heartuk.org.uk/low-cholesterol-foods/carbohydrates-

Oceanus · 12/07/2022 02:46

Honestly, I think you should see your GP and check all is fine and dandy, because it might potentially be something that's wrong but hasn't been picked up yet. Then you should see a nutrionist and an endocronologist and follow their professional advice.
If it all fails, you should go for the op but make sure it's a team of specialists who will support you before, during and after. You will have to change your eating habits and lifestyle if needed, then you go for the op.
I've actuallly given this a lot of thought because it's what I would do and might do once I get myself sorted. This is what I would/will do. I just didn't get past the GP part! 😂😂😂

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