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Were we wrong to cross the road in this way?

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UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 11:55

I was taking my DD to school this morning. There is a junction where we need to cross over the road in front then cross over the road to the left. Lots of families including us cross diagonally as it is quicker than crossing both separately.

We were late this morning so there were no other families around. We were crossing the junction and a few seconds before we got onto the pavement a car sounds it's horn loudly at us (scaring poor DD) then came round the corner and started shouting and pointing at us. I just ignored the driver as they were clearly very angry so no point in trying to have a civil conversation.

I always thought if a pedestrian was crossing a road then a car needs to give way to them. Or are we wrong to cross diagonally?

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PinkPanther50 · 30/06/2022 14:58

Not unreasonable. We have a crossroads in town and I do exactly that as do others. You just have to be a bit quicker as the diagonal way is longer than the straight across way 😂

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 14:58

HangOnToYourself · 30/06/2022 13:21

They were unreasonable to shout at you but if it's a light controlled crossing it does sound dangerous of you to cross as cars will be focused on checking the lights and the road should be clear for them. Obviously the driver needs to be vigilant but I can understand them being frustrated as you could have caused an accident

Sorry, I don't quite understand. It is a crossing so the road isn't clear for them, people are crossing.

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Beachsidesunset · 30/06/2022 14:59

7.A, sorry. You're wrong OP and teaching your child road safety poorly.

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:02

tomatopsste · 30/06/2022 13:21

I would agree if it wasn't possible to cross in the time given but it is. Maybe if they don't want people to cross diagonally they should allow enough time for pedestrians to cross both roads so they can get on with their journey?

Maybe you should leave sufficient time to wait for the second crossing? Your time is not more precious than car drivers.

That wasn't my point. My point was that if pedestrians have to wait long times for crossings (often at least double the time cars have to wait) then they will cross diagonally. If that was an issue and it needed to be stopped it could be done by allowing pedestrians to get across quicker more in line with the time drivers have to wait.

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UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:03

OneTC · 30/06/2022 13:22

It's against the highway code

Ah, is it? Thank you for that.

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UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:04

LetitiaLeghorn · 30/06/2022 13:24

@GrootUnforgiven
Even if the road was clear and everyone else would go over before the green man, I'd stand there telling dd she should wait for the green man and probably sounded like a twat to everyone else

You don't sound like a twat at all. Occasionally I see a parent teaching their child that so I wait with them until the parent indicates it's OK to cross (even though I'm cursing internally and my feet are itching to go! 😂 )
I think it shows great parenting. Sorry about what happened to your brother.

I do this too.

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HangOnToYourself · 30/06/2022 15:04

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 14:58

Sorry, I don't quite understand. It is a crossing so the road isn't clear for them, people are crossing.

You do understand you have just completely changed your story from crossing diagonally (so not on a crossing) to saying you were on the crossing. Your first picture very clearly is showing a diagonal that is not on the actual crossing and now that everyone has pointed out this wrong you have completely backtracked and pretended you were on the crossing the whole time 🙄 hopefully you have learnt something at least and will be more careful in future even if you want to keep up your charade on here.

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 30/06/2022 15:05

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 14:43

We were on the crossing.

No you were crossing diagonally not on the crossing.

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:05

Rosebel · 30/06/2022 13:25

I can't quite understand where the car was. They blasted the horn then came round the corner? How did they see you before going round the corner?
I'm quite tired though so may have misunderstood?

We were crossing the road in front of them. As the lights changed they beeped at us as we were still crossing.

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JauntyJinty · 30/06/2022 15:05

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 14:49

This gives a bit more of an accurate idea of how we cross so most of the time we are on the direct crossing. We usually make it all the way across before the lights change. We must have been slightly slow at crossing today and the lights changed as we were a few seconds away from the pavement.

What a strage thing to do! Why wouldn't you go directly if you were crossing diagnoally? Whats with the weird half diagonlly and then join the crossing part way thing?

So you usually make it across in time but didn't today? Either you crossed unusally slowy (despite being in a rush) or rushed out just before the lights changed then. I'm guessing the latter.

SmartCarDriver · 30/06/2022 15:06

That wasn't my point. My point was that if pedestrians have to wait long times for crossings (often at least double the time cars have to wait) then they will cross diagonally. If that was an issue and it needed to be stopped it could be done by allowing pedestrians to get across quicker more in line with the time drivers have to wait.

You know about the crossing, you know it takes an extra few minutes, get up earlier and stop teaching your DD bad habits.

Little point teaching her good habits, if you're then going to negate that with bad habits!

LetitiaLeghorn · 30/06/2022 15:07

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:04

I do this too.

Then we agree on one thing! 👍 😂 😂

SmartCarDriver · 30/06/2022 15:09

What a strage thing to do! Why wouldn't you go directly if you were crossing diagnoally? Whats with the weird half diagonlly and then join the crossing part way thing?

OP was getting a hard time so decided that the diagram she had carefully drawn, showing the diagonal crossing that she's mentioned a lot, was in fact wrong and it wasn't diagonal at all.

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 30/06/2022 15:09

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:03

Ah, is it? Thank you for that.

Someone has literally posted the rule in the thread!

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:09

HangOnToYourself · 30/06/2022 13:26

In that case if someone early hit you it means there is also not enough time to cross diagonally or this wouldnt have happened. As pp said the onus is on you to leave enough time for your journey whether that be on foot or.in a car. As a driver its frustrating when you have been queuing and the lights change but only give enough time.for the first 3 cars to get out and you are number 4. It doesnt mean that you should just plough through the red lights because you dont think it gives you long enough.

I'm not sure what you mean. There is enough time to cross diagonally but we were a bit slow. Like if someone started crossing after the green man had been on for a while. We were walking across the crossing when it was green man, but the lights changed just before we reached the pavement. We did not plough through a red man, we were already on the crossing. And I had left enough time, thank you.

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UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:12

Muezza · 30/06/2022 13:34

If I was a driver I would be looking out for people crossing the roads straight across, so someone crossing diagonally would blindside me as it would be unexpected.

Also, if someone was crossing on the marked crossing and needed extra time after the green man to finish crossing, its and expected thing, but if someone appears diagonally, still crossing after the green man is gone I wouldnt be expecting that as I might not have spotted you starting your crossing.

I wouldn't have yelled and beeped, but probably would have thought you were being stupid.

We were on the marked crossing for a while before the lights changed. The driver clearly saw us as they sounded their horn at us.

People cross like this all the time. I would say it is very dangerous for a driver not to anticipate this.

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UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:14

ZeroFuchsGiven · 30/06/2022 13:37

If it was green man on all that means the driver run a red light. If that was the case op would have said that, she was obviously crossing when the green man was red and the traffic light was green!

Yes, the green man had turned red but we were almost across. The lights were changing to amber.

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tomatopsste · 30/06/2022 15:17

tomatopsste · 30/06/2022 14:53

Can anyone else see my question?

I've asked three times if she'd be happy with her DD doing this alone, she seems to be ignoring the questions?

Am I invisible @UndertheCedartree

@UndertheCedartree ?

Well would you be happy?

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:18

tomatopsste · 30/06/2022 15:17

@UndertheCedartree ?

Well would you be happy?

You may have asked 3 times but I am answering the questions in order! You sound as impatient as the driver!

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tomatopsste · 30/06/2022 15:20

@UndertheCedartree well would you be happy?

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:22

LetitiaLeghorn · 30/06/2022 13:37

I didn't really understand what you meant but I've just seen your diagram. You can't do that! You can't cross the road diagonally. It's the highway code. And it must be a,significant junction to have 4 set ofboedestrian crossings. I'd be annoyed if I were the driver too. And I'd probably toot you, as well. The driver isn't responsible for scaring your daughter. You're unreasonable behaviour is.

Well hooting at pedestrians in this situation is against the highway code too, tbf. But fair enough if it's against the highway code we'll stop doing it. Would you hoot someone on the crossing that had walked directly across but was slow so the lights changed as they crossed. I mean I didn't mean for us to be on the crossing as the lights change but there is no countdown on these lights so you don't know how long you've got. Sometimes you just happen to still be crossing when the lights change!

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tomatopsste · 30/06/2022 15:24

@UndertheCedartree you seem to be avoiding the question...... unsurprisingly

UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:26

JauntyJinty · 30/06/2022 13:37

"a road into which or from which you are turning."

So if the driver was contuning stright this doesn't apply.

If they were driving stright through a green light and OP dragged a kid out in front of them I can see why they were upset!

They were driving over the crossing and turning left. They were stationary when they beeped as the lights were amber. We were crossing on the green man but hadn't quite made it to the pavement. I didn't drag my DD we just walked across as usual.

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UndertheCedartree · 30/06/2022 15:27

LetitiaLeghorn · 30/06/2022 13:39

The highway code says you cannot cross a road diagonally. No mention of exceptions.

Ok, thank you.

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Aquamarine1029 · 30/06/2022 15:28

You are incredibly foolish to cross the road like that, and it's an awful example to set for your child.