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To be worried about polio?

133 replies

maisieandvicks · 24/06/2022 06:14

I understand that it is out of our control, but the news about polio returning since 2003, I’m worried for my children.

They’ve had all of their shots bar my pre-schooler who is getting hers next month.

I’m still concerned for my children and furthermore, I’m equally as concerned for children nationwide.

AIBU to be concerned about the arrival of polio?

OP posts:
Lindy2 · 24/06/2022 07:09

Only those who haven't been vaccinated or had their children vaccinated need to be concerned. Even they have time to develop some common sense and get their vaccinations done now.

Geneviev · 24/06/2022 07:14

When are kids vaccinated against polio? Mine are fully vaxxed in terms of the usual NHS programme. They are 8 and 5. Will they be vaccinated against polio? I can’t remember and I cba hunting down the red books.

AquaticSewingMachine · 24/06/2022 07:15

Geneviev · 24/06/2022 07:14

When are kids vaccinated against polio? Mine are fully vaxxed in terms of the usual NHS programme. They are 8 and 5. Will they be vaccinated against polio? I can’t remember and I cba hunting down the red books.

They are fully vaccinated by the time they've had the preschool booster.
The vaccine schedule is also available on Google.

Saucery · 24/06/2022 07:20

If you’d tested sewage 40 years ago in this country when they still gave the live vaccine then you would have found the same.
It does not mean there is an outbreak. It is likely to mean that someone has shed the live vaccine after coming from a country where that vaccine is still given, I believe.

Best thing to do is for everyone to make sure their own vaccine schedule is up to date and that of their dc is too.

maisieandvicks · 24/06/2022 07:21

SandyWedges · 24/06/2022 06:20

I think as long as you get your kids vaccinated it should be fine? It's only because people aren't bothering that there's a worry? Or have I got that wrong.

Apologies, I misread and misinterpreted what you were asking me.

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dottiedodah · 24/06/2022 07:22

This is a dreadful disease. Dps friends dd was in an iron lung in the 50s.before mass immunisation came about. Please everyone make sure your children have the vaccine. This should be a wake up call to parents everywhere.

JangolinaPitt · 24/06/2022 07:28

Oh god - here we go again….Covid is so last year so look for the next thing to terrify your kids with ..

Hoardasurass · 24/06/2022 07:30

Being Scared or worried is daft as it's not polio that they found but old fashioned vaccine (made with live virus) which in extremely rare circumstances can polio if you come into contact with UNTREATED SEWAGE.
Rather than wasting energy on being scared and try getting angry with parents if 1/4 of London children who are themselves vaccinated but refused to give their children the same protection because when polio like measles properly returns they will be the dead and permanently disabled by it all because their parents were to stupid to protect them

SexyLittleNosferatu · 24/06/2022 07:40

JangolinaPitt · 24/06/2022 07:28

Oh god - here we go again….Covid is so last year so look for the next thing to terrify your kids with ..

Bit of an upgrade from monkeypox, isn't it.

Jalisco · 24/06/2022 07:40

araiwa · 24/06/2022 06:21

Blame the crystals, homeopathy, dandelion soup etc etc cunts for allowing it back

It isn't often someone can demonstrate how ignorant they are in so few words. Not only do these things have absolutely nothing to do with people opposed to vaccination but being opposed to vaccination has nothing whatsoever to do with the detection of the polio virus in London’s sewage.

I have doubts that crystals have any real efficacy, but if they hold value for others and make them feel better, whatever the reasons for that, then they are a good thing (and can look very pretty as well). Homeopathy, herbalism and other natural / ancient medical practices have some proven efficacies and large parts of our “modern” medicine are built on these – they are not “cure-alls” but they form part of a series of options for people who want to make informed choices about their health and wellbeing. And dandelions are one of the most nutrition packed greens that you could eat, a great source of vitamins and minerals such as Vitamins A, C and K, folate, calcium and potassium.
And your choice of descriptors is misogynistic, offensive and downright nasty.

SheWoreYellow · 24/06/2022 07:45

Those of you blaming antivaxxers for an outbreak have really not understood the situation. Just read a full article, or one of the many posts here explaining how it’s shown up in the waste water.

It’s been shed from people who have had a live vaccine. We don’t do the live vaccine, which shows it has come from another country.

Monsterpage · 24/06/2022 07:46

It’s really all about making sure everyone is up to date with their vaccinations. twitter.com/DrJennersHouse/status/1539653982443802624

PinkButtercups · 24/06/2022 07:47

maisieandvicks · 24/06/2022 06:53

@PinkButtercups yes, this is what I thought. My oldest has had all of his vaccinations so far. It’s my youngest that hasn’t had the pre-school booster.

Not sure if it’s anxiety but it’s making me want to stop using my tap for tap water! We used to buy bottled water but then again, who knows what’s in that too?

Your tap water is fine. I don't drink tap water as we live in a hard like scale area and it's just gross. But tap water wouldn't even cross my mind tbh.

PinkButtercups · 24/06/2022 07:47

Lime*

Thinkingblonde · 24/06/2022 07:47

I read the article and not just the headlines. Traces of live polio vaccine has been found in sewage water in London, believed to come from someone who has been vaccinated in a country where live vaccine is still used. Sewage water is tested regularly for all kinds of nasties. The U.K. doesn’t use live vaccine anymore, lthere is no outbreak as such. It’s not in tap water. It’s a heads up to everyone that immunisation needs to continue, to keep these awful diseases under control: polio, measles, mumps, rubella, T.B. If your children have been vaccinated, good, if not, get them vaccinated.

FuzzyPuffling · 24/06/2022 07:49

Isn't the issue here not that it has come from shedding of live vaccine, but that it has shown mutations from a vaccine- derived form to one that has spread within the community?

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 07:50

So many people failing to understand the situation!

It is a problem! It needs addressing! It isn't scare mongering!

The traces found indicate polio has been spreading. It was a live vaccine, but there are different genetically linked versions so it's been evolving. Therefore it's spreading in a community somewhere in London.

They are narrowing it down, but it is a concern for those who are unvaccinated.

That said, you'd need to be unlucky if you generally vaccinate and have just missed one.

AnybodyAnywhere · 24/06/2022 07:50

It’s not an ‘outbreak’.

Traces have been found, probably from someone who was recently vaccinated with the ‘live’ vaccine, many places still use this method which is what was used here when I was young, we had it on a sugar lump.

Relax OP, if there was a list of ‘things to worry about in the world today’ this would be unlikely to make the top 1000.

Media scaremongering again.

lonelyapple · 24/06/2022 07:50

Gusfringrules · 24/06/2022 07:02

That didn't take long did it? Blame the immigrants because you cannot countenance that the pernicious anti-vaxxers in this country couldn't possibly be to blame.

You do know that many immigrant communities are very anti-vax too, don't you?

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 07:51

@FuzzyPuffling yes! Can't see why people can't read!!

Though it isn't in the tap water, that is safe. It will be spread between people, as it always has.

orwellwasright · 24/06/2022 07:56

I think we need a zero tolerance approach to spreading misinformation about vaccinations.

The internet is very democratising but it's created this situation where all opinions are equally valid. And they're patently not.

Deliberate spreading of medical misinformation should be a crime imo.

SheWoreYellow · 24/06/2022 08:01

FuzzyPuffling · 24/06/2022 07:49

Isn't the issue here not that it has come from shedding of live vaccine, but that it has shown mutations from a vaccine- derived form to one that has spread within the community?

Yes, you’re right. The source is shedding from a live virus from the vaccine. I’d conflated that.

Ifailed · 24/06/2022 08:05

Homeopathy, herbalism and other natural / ancient medical practices have some proven efficacies

Homeopathy is neither natural, ancient or proven.

Jalisco · 24/06/2022 08:07

lonelyapple · 24/06/2022 07:50

You do know that many immigrant communities are very anti-vax too, don't you?

No, because it wouldn't be true. Some people who happen to have originated in another country may be anti-vax, just as some people born and bred in the UK are. Unless you can show evidence that entire "communities" of immigrants are anti-vax, please stop spreading racist rubbish.

Fluffycloudland77 · 24/06/2022 08:12

Im sure the anti-vaxxers are getting their “I trust my immune system” badges out as we speak. Just like a cold isn’t it?