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AIBU to refuse to buy presents for my own kids on by brothers behalf

44 replies

LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:09

As background, I’m married with 3 children, and my brother is on his own with none. In case it’s relevant we have no other siblings. To avoid future questions … DB had no physical / learning disabilities, has a very well paying job, and has very few outgoings - so no cash flow issues.

Usually, at birthdays and Christmases, my parents ask me what my kids would like, and I send a number of links of options (at different appropriate prices) and the kids would get something from that list from my parents, and something from my brother (ie their uncle). Sometimes I sent the links to my dad and sometimes to my brother too. I assumed that DB had bought the ones from him, and DDad the ones from my parents (as my mum’s not particularly good online).

My dad passed away last year, and my kids didn’t get any birthday presents from my brother. Totally no issue - was a difficult year, we had things on etc. and it obviously got missed.

At Christmas, DM asked me as usual and I sent some links. She asked me to buy some of the ones for her (which was fine) and she gave me the money. Again - no issue - she’s not great online and don’t expect her to trudge around the shops. She also asked me to buy the ones from my brother and said she would give me the money. I sort of wriggled out of it - but presents turned up in his name. It turned out, she had bought it them, but it felt like she’d done as she’d being passing the shop and it would have been unreasonable for her not to just to pick up herself. Again - all good and not my problem.

So, now it’s birthday time, and my mum’s staying with me. On her request, I helped her buy presents for my son, and she asked me to order a present from DB. I said I’d send him a link and he could order it if he wanted. She said I was being unreasonable and unhelpful and that I should be buying it and she would reimburse me, and he would reimburse her. To me this is utterly insane - there’s no reason whatsoever why he can’t to it himself (or not buy any present if that’s his choice) - but for me to be the bad one for not taking on my brother’s “wife work”. I’ve said if I did that - I’d be as well just buying it myself as the ££s aren’t what’s important.

Of course I’ve now twigged that it’s been my DDad buying the presents on DB’s behalf all along and he’s probably never actually bought one himself.

Surely if you want to buy someone a present, and you’re a middle aged man with no issues you can put some form of effort into it - even if it’s just clicking a link?

IN SHORT… DDad used to buy birthday presents for my kids on DBs behalf. DM expects me to pick up that role. AIBU in thinking DB should either buy a present for them himself (or not - REALLY don’t care) and that it is insane that she expects me to buy the present, and for her to reimburse me, and then (possibly) him to reimburse her.

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PAFMO · 20/06/2022 11:11

What a lot of wasted energy even thinking about it.
Does the kid like the presents?
Would you whinge if nobody bought them anything?

roarfeckingroarr · 20/06/2022 11:13

What a weird response (man by any chance?)

YANBU at all. This would infuriate me.

willithappen · 20/06/2022 11:13

I think you are overthinking it all. If you are doing the same for your mum then it's no issue to do it for your brother at the same time? He's still paying for it ultimately

Have you spoken to him directly about it? If there's a huge issue then go straight to him and don't involve your mother.

Aprilx · 20/06/2022 11:14

I would generally have said no, of course you shouldn’t have to buy presents in behalf of your brother. But it seems like you pick all the presents anyway, so I am not sure it makes a massive difference.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 20/06/2022 11:14

oh your poor dm
she is doing her best for family harmony.

PurpleDaisies · 20/06/2022 11:15

Just ask him to send money instead. Problem solved.

SleepingStandingUp · 20/06/2022 11:16

I'd just message your borther

Hey Derek, I've just realised that Dad's been ordering the kids presents off you all these years. Obv not it's just Mom she can't do it so I assume its fine to just send you the link and you can pick something / send cash / not buy them anymore.

Or words to that effect.

bridgetreilly · 20/06/2022 11:17

Your DM does not need to be part of this conversation. Snd the wishlist/links directly to your brother and tell your mother that you’ve taken care of it.

LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:17

willithappen · 20/06/2022 11:13

I think you are overthinking it all. If you are doing the same for your mum then it's no issue to do it for your brother at the same time? He's still paying for it ultimately

Have you spoken to him directly about it? If there's a huge issue then go straight to him and don't involve your mother.

That’s absolutely the point. If he asked me I might, and definitely would if there was a specific reason. There was actually a present my mum was getting for one child and ‘DB’ the same for another and of course I ordered both as I’m not a spiteful idiot.

It’s my mum assuming that it’s somehow my job to buy presents on someone else behalf… who hasn’t even asked me to do it seems nuts.

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Danni677 · 20/06/2022 11:18

Sounds like no one is enjoying all this rigmarole. I’d just stop expecting anything from your brother.

LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:19

bridgetreilly · 20/06/2022 11:17

Your DM does not need to be part of this conversation. Snd the wishlist/links directly to your brother and tell your mother that you’ve taken care of it.

That’s exactly what I said and did when she started going on about how unhelpful and unreasonable I was being - hence checking in.

glad to see that’s not an unreasonable approach.

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Velvetbee · 20/06/2022 11:20

No, no, no, don’t fuel this lazy arse misogyny. You’re busy, he can’t be bothered, he mustn’t get credit for doing fuck all. I bet your mum doesn’t even get the money back so he’s getting the credit while other people smooth everything over, no!

Littlebirdyouaresosweet · 20/06/2022 11:20

Just tell db no gifts this year. He gets nowt.
Or dm can buy and pass them off as from you.

LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:20

MrsLargeEmbodied · 20/06/2022 11:14

oh your poor dm
she is doing her best for family harmony.

You’re absolutely right and 48% of me wants to just do it to make her happy. My obstinate 52% is winning at moment 😢. I should be a better person.

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SandyWedges · 20/06/2022 11:20

Is it all coming from the same place? If so it saves on delivery fees and environment impact to do it in one order.

Gr33ngr33ngr4ss · 20/06/2022 11:21

I don't think I could get worked up about it. It's not something that's happening more than a handfulmof times a year and your kids are getting presents. And it's not the biggest inconvenience I can think of.

It's clearly bothering you though.

LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:23

PAFMO · 20/06/2022 11:11

What a lot of wasted energy even thinking about it.
Does the kid like the presents?
Would you whinge if nobody bought them anything?

Nope I’d be ok with that. Kids would probably ask “why not” one year and then it would be done.

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LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:24

SandyWedges · 20/06/2022 11:20

Is it all coming from the same place? If so it saves on delivery fees and environment impact to do it in one order.

Absolutely - In fact I did order one as it was at the same place as I’m not a complete selfish idiot. It’s more the assumption that it’s my responsibility rather than his.

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IfIhearmumagaintoday · 20/06/2022 11:28

Danni677 · 20/06/2022 11:18

Sounds like no one is enjoying all this rigmarole. I’d just stop expecting anything from your brother.

My thoughts too. OP you can't force people to buy presents even for your kids!

SpiderinaWingMirror · 20/06/2022 11:29

I had this with my utterly useless brother. I just stopped. My kids didn't care.

Hallyup89 · 20/06/2022 11:36

'Wife work' 😂😂😂🤮

Just do it. Your kids are the ones to benefit from it.

ferneytorro · 20/06/2022 11:51

I’d stop. If people can’t be bothered to sort presents themselves they shouldn’t get the credit.
Obviously a caring grandparent who asks for ideas and then asks you to order something on their behalf if they can’t get to the shops is different .

boronia · 20/06/2022 11:51

Stop doing it.
Tell him he can give cash in a card instead.
If he doesn't the world won't end.

kmbegs · 20/06/2022 11:52

I'm with you OP, it's misogyny. He should do it himself or just leave it.

TempName01 · 20/06/2022 11:56

Nope, I would message DB and say if would you like to continue to buy the kids gifts I can send you some ideas but no problem if you would rather not as they get plenty enough as it is.

my own DB isn’t quite as useless but I do get infuriated with him sometimes like the time I said would he like to get a particular game that was in stock where he lived, he said yes but left it until the last minute and it went out of stock, he then bought a gift that i had already got. 🙄

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