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AIBU to refuse to buy presents for my own kids on by brothers behalf

44 replies

LightIn · 20/06/2022 11:09

As background, I’m married with 3 children, and my brother is on his own with none. In case it’s relevant we have no other siblings. To avoid future questions … DB had no physical / learning disabilities, has a very well paying job, and has very few outgoings - so no cash flow issues.

Usually, at birthdays and Christmases, my parents ask me what my kids would like, and I send a number of links of options (at different appropriate prices) and the kids would get something from that list from my parents, and something from my brother (ie their uncle). Sometimes I sent the links to my dad and sometimes to my brother too. I assumed that DB had bought the ones from him, and DDad the ones from my parents (as my mum’s not particularly good online).

My dad passed away last year, and my kids didn’t get any birthday presents from my brother. Totally no issue - was a difficult year, we had things on etc. and it obviously got missed.

At Christmas, DM asked me as usual and I sent some links. She asked me to buy some of the ones for her (which was fine) and she gave me the money. Again - no issue - she’s not great online and don’t expect her to trudge around the shops. She also asked me to buy the ones from my brother and said she would give me the money. I sort of wriggled out of it - but presents turned up in his name. It turned out, she had bought it them, but it felt like she’d done as she’d being passing the shop and it would have been unreasonable for her not to just to pick up herself. Again - all good and not my problem.

So, now it’s birthday time, and my mum’s staying with me. On her request, I helped her buy presents for my son, and she asked me to order a present from DB. I said I’d send him a link and he could order it if he wanted. She said I was being unreasonable and unhelpful and that I should be buying it and she would reimburse me, and he would reimburse her. To me this is utterly insane - there’s no reason whatsoever why he can’t to it himself (or not buy any present if that’s his choice) - but for me to be the bad one for not taking on my brother’s “wife work”. I’ve said if I did that - I’d be as well just buying it myself as the ££s aren’t what’s important.

Of course I’ve now twigged that it’s been my DDad buying the presents on DB’s behalf all along and he’s probably never actually bought one himself.

Surely if you want to buy someone a present, and you’re a middle aged man with no issues you can put some form of effort into it - even if it’s just clicking a link?

IN SHORT… DDad used to buy birthday presents for my kids on DBs behalf. DM expects me to pick up that role. AIBU in thinking DB should either buy a present for them himself (or not - REALLY don’t care) and that it is insane that she expects me to buy the present, and for her to reimburse me, and then (possibly) him to reimburse her.

OP posts:
Meraas · 20/06/2022 12:03

I can see it's annoying. Maybe just tell DM and DB that the dc don't need the presents and if DB really wants to give something, then he can just contribute to dc's savings account.

Ottersmith · 20/06/2022 12:14

Your Mother is pandering to this man child behaviour. Call your brother out on it so he asks your Mother to stop too. If the kids don't get gifts from him that's his fault. No chance you should be expected to do this wife work.

Sunshine9356 · 20/06/2022 12:22

I wonder how the responses might read if DB was replaced with DS?

wotsitsaremyfave · 20/06/2022 12:41

Tell bro to give cash that you can put in their bank accounts for the future

10HailMarys · 20/06/2022 12:50

This would annoy me too. I would also be wondering if he has ever actually bothered to reimburse your parents for the gifts they were buying on his behalf. My suspicion would be that he hasn't, and your mum doesn't want to admit that.

Bookworm20 · 20/06/2022 13:28

what a lazy git your brother is! I totally understand you helping your mum if she is confused about ordering online and not able to walk around shops etc. But why on earth should you be expected to sort this out for you able bodied perfectly capable brother?

He has been enabled to do this for far too long. If I were you i'd just send your brother a link and tell him shame on him for having your parents sort the presents from him all these years.

The fact they didn't get one from him previsouly after your Ddad died, would suggest he probably doesn't even pay them back, as otherwise surely he'd of been asking what do I owe for the kids presents this year!

MassiveSalad22 · 20/06/2022 13:39

YANBU we have this with FIL and it’s so fucking lazy. It’s the thought that counts and he’s completely unwilling to think of anything. We refuse to think so for him and miraculously he usually manages to send something after a few pointers.

Latest bday it was ‘what would X like for his bday? … Ok, please send links… OK, go for it and I’ll pay you back’…. Pure and utter laziness! Obviously we made him get it himself or not bother.

5foot5 · 20/06/2022 13:52

I am with you OP. This is just perpetuating the myth that sorting out presents is somehow "not man's work" and that the women in their life - wife, mum, sister even - should handle it for them.

I remember years ago at work we were discussing Christmas shopping and a single male colleague of a similar age to me (early 30s at the time) was smugly saying how he had got this all sorted out. Apparently his mother knew who he needed to buy for (siblings, nephews, nieces etc.) so she chose and bought all the presents from him and then handed him an invoice when he went home for Christmas. He looked astounded when I told him in no uncertain terms that he should be thoroughly ashamed of himself. He has since married so I expect he still doesn't have to worry his pretty little head about it because his wife will no doubt be expected to pick up that role.

FawnFrenchieMum · 20/06/2022 14:05

People saying send cash doesnt this just result in the exact same situation, OP has either take the kids shopping or she orders something with the money?

PurpleDaisies · 20/06/2022 14:08

FawnFrenchieMum · 20/06/2022 14:05

People saying send cash doesnt this just result in the exact same situation, OP has either take the kids shopping or she orders something with the money?

Yes but the kids get to choose what they want. My nieces love going shopping to spend their birthday money.
The op can always put it in a savings account.

SleepingStandingUp · 20/06/2022 14:09

FawnFrenchieMum · 20/06/2022 14:05

People saying send cash doesnt this just result in the exact same situation, OP has either take the kids shopping or she orders something with the money?

It's less immediate. DS had cash off lots of people. I took him shopping and he picked some stuff after his birthday, his choice. Totally different to me trawling shops trying to guess. He still has money left and it won't get spent unless there's something specific he wants.

FOTB · 20/06/2022 14:29

FFS. This is not a "wife work" issue as some posters have said.

It's a "childless relative" issue.

I'm the same as the childless uncle - I never remember the birthdays of my nieces and nephews. I don't even live in the same country as them all, and I didn't choose to have children myself, so I have no idea what's age appropriate and what isn't.

I barely remember my own birthday, let alone theirs, and for some reason, their birthdays always seem to coincide with a big work project when I just don't have time to deal with someone else's life admin. It's not as if I see my nieces and nephews on a regular basis - this is a pure admin obligation rather than a family obligation.

Thankfully, they're all old enough now that I have standing orders for their various birthdays that go direct to their own bank accounts. I hated, hated, hated the obligation to pick out and order presents when they were small. I never knew what was age appropriate, and if there was a list, I then had to set up a new online account with another supplier and dig out the address for all of them.

I might feel different if I actually had a relationship with any of them (we live too far away), but it's just me paying for my siblings' kids. I don't mind chucking the extra cash at them, but don't expect me to get excited about it.

catandcoffee · 20/06/2022 14:38

I kept reading hoping to get to the actual part that mattered.

There is no part 🙄

southlondoner02 · 20/06/2022 15:31

Do you think your DB is actually even giving your DM the money for the presents?

I have a brother who has no kids. He doesn't buy mine a birthday present but will do Christmas because we see each other and exchange presents. No one cares. I wonder if your DM is keeping up appearances and if it would be better to agree no gifts with your DB?

dottiedodah · 20/06/2022 16:08

TBH I would just say to DM and DB to just send cash/Amazon vouchers /Book tokens whatever . Presumably DM probably would prefer this? DB sounds like a lazy sod ,but he is getting pressies/or at least paying for them .

saraclara · 20/06/2022 16:28

All the people who told the OP in the 'DSD and Father's Day' thread, that she should go out and buy a card and present on behalf of her 14 year old 'can't be arsed' DSD, this is how the girl will turn out. Leaving present buying to her parents, when she's a fully grown adult with a good job.

Did your DB every give your parents the money, OP? I'd bet he didn't.

Goldfishjones · 20/06/2022 16:36

Just leave your brother out of it, if he can't be arsed why should you? Bet your kids aren't bothered.

Can your mum not order online either, I mean it's not THAT difficult is it? Or put a fiver in a birthday card?

If my relatives ask for ideas, I let them know my child's general interests and then let them crack on. If they don't ask me and don't send a present I couldn't really care less.

BeautifulDragon · 20/06/2022 16:43

YANBU OP. Just don't do it, the kids won't care and it's less 'stuff' to store in your house.

Personally I refuse to get involved with even sending people links etc (unless there is a really specific thing my DC has asked for) it's pure laziness! How did anyone manage to buy family gifts before links were a thing? If you want to buy a child a present then use your knowledge of said child and choose something you think they will like/ give cash/ask them/ take them out for the day/ don't bother.

But don't give extra work to the child's mother (because it's always Mums that are asked!) and expect them to plan gifts from the entire extended family or top of their own gift buying.

Herejustforthisone · 20/06/2022 16:56

Has your brother always been a spoilt, lazy little prince?

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