Shocking antisocial behaviour 10yos

[Calledakaren]

NC as I give way too much away.

Today I was walking in a park with a pond. 4 boys around 10yo were throwing in the lifesaving rings in the pond and shouting and swearing.

As I walked past I asked them to stop and was met with a barrage of abusive language (f word) and called a Karen for interfering.

I said I would be reporting that the life rings had been removed and that it could be their brother, sister or cousin who fell in and needed help. They continued so I took a picture of them throwing in the rings. They then came up and told me to delete the picture as they didn't give their consent and they would be phoning the police. I walked away and they threw a bottle of water at me and continued shouting and removing more rings.

I reported it via 101 but fuck me - how are 10 years old so fucking brazen and bold with their behaviour?!

If they called you Karen, they’ll be 12+

Haha what??

Shocking behaviour.
However, I would be reluctant to approach a group of children even at that age as you just don’t know if they are carrying a weapon or how they would react. It sounds silly but the reality is there are kids out, who for various reasons, would attack a stranger who reprimanded them.

A few weeks ago I caught kids of a similar age, very small, smashing up the community garden near by.

All kinds of abuse I got for telling them to stop, called a fat cunt, karen, threatened with parents etc. I don't think I had ever heard that word until I was about 17! Filmed them and photos etc, police literally could not have given two fucks.

They roam around here in identical north face trackies, with hoods up all in black as this is the current 'in' uniform.

I'm planning on emailing the headteachers nearest primary and secondary schools - I'm assuming they walked there from a nearby estate from the location of the park and the fact they were unaccompanied. Will they actually do anything or is it a waste of time?

I'm really glad my (younger) kids weren't with me, they would have been scared. I will think twice before approaching kids of that age again.

Eh? DN's Beaver group (ages 6-8) made a scarecrow and named it Karen.

We have a heard of 6-10 year olds ont her estate next to us that storm about throwing glass bottles and eggs at people, terrorising dog walkers, smash windows etc. They don’t come up to us luckily as they can’t be arsed with the hill.

some of it is parenting, but some of it is the absolute trash that can be found in YouTube. Many parents will let their kids watch YouTube without checking what they’re watching - even with screen limits - and there junk that most parents wouldn’t even realise. And even those who are trying to do a good job.

Yep! The whole Karen thing has spread via social media including YouTube.

10 year olds? Blimey! My 10 yo is still at home playing with her dolls.

You should see how some of them behave in class! For the first time in my 20 years as a teacher I am finding classes impossible to teach because of a few kids in each one. The backchat, the language, the arguing ... the way they treat others. The sexualised language from both the boys and girls.
Sadly in the past they were 'afraid' of the authority and being excluded etc. whereas now it's a badge of honour with a lack of support at home. It used to be at that point that the other kids behaved - they are less inclined to now as life is about being entertained and not learning. Much more fun to watch what's going on as if life were a TikTok video.

We came across two boys of around 12 fishing in the ornamental pond in London’s Regent’s Park at around 10am recently. I told them (politely) fishing wasn’t allowed and they both immediately got really lippy. Parks police turned up too late to catch them but were very keen to share the photos I had taken of them (same reaction of “you can’t take our picture - we don’t consent”) with the Met Police.

Its constant here. Walk around in groups damaging property, stealing bikes and intimidating. They even kicked a cat into the canal.

Police know their names, but hands are tied because of their ages.

That's bad parenting

Part of the problem is that they are learning that when they exhibit threatening or violent behaviour, adults back off. No-one wants to be attacked and they know it. You did great in photographing them and contacting the police.
FWIW a group of teenagers I know recently intimidated a local old man when he told them to stop vaping in a bus shelter near school. He rang the police and school as it was just past 9am on a school day so they'd decided to truant. School went out and rounded them up, police liaised with school to identify them and their parents were informed. They've not been in that bus shelter since.
It takes a village to raise a child etc.

According to my daughter kids with that look are known as "Road men"

Part of the problem is that they are learning that when they exhibit threatening or violent behaviour, adults back off. No-one wants to be attacked and they know it.

This is so true @HarrietSchulenberg

i wonder if it starts with the ‘you can’t touch me, I know my rights’ line and grows from there. They seem very concerned with their rights, while not remotely considering anyone else’s.

Guess I naively thought kids under 12 would be exposed to such things as they shouldn’t be using social media 🙁I also can’t really imagine 10 year olds, as I am a mother to one, understanding the whole concept of a Karen. But I guess they mimic what they hear.

All it takes is for one bad apple to spoil the lot as they say!

The same CF who get "known" by the police also then get taken on "troubled children activity holiday's" while the good children just have to watch them getting rewarded.
A good punishment is really all that's needed to set them on the straight and narrow.

Wouldn't you love to push one of the CF in and then they'd understand the reason life rings are better left alone for emergencies.

Obviously you'd end up getting into trouble, but it would nicely illustrate the scenario to their small brains!

Unfortunately I've seen a lot of this where I live. But in future please don't approach or confront them, you never know what they might be carrying. You get a lot of people saying kids will be kids, there's nothing for them to do etc. Bullshit. I grew up at a time when clubs were few and far between, if your parents could afford them, 5 TV channels, unless again you could afford sky, no smart phones, social media and very few people had game consoles. Not once did me or my friends act like this. Yes, we would sit in groups of around 8 to 10 on a field around the park or anywhere rural which I get would look intimating but we were all chatting and doing no harm. I can understand people standing up for kids doing that but not throwing things at vehicles and people, drinking, drugs, vandalism and the rest. My DS would be grounded until 18 if he tried.

I work at a McDonald’s-on the front line
ive had
been sexually assaulted-5 times-only one by an adult over the age of 18
sworn at-every shift
vaping-every shift
smashing tables,glass walls,damaging the toilets,smearing waste everywhere,stealing the loo rolls,talking loudly about sex and who they are fucking tonight,throwing food/dips/rubbish
ive been threatened with a knife-more than once
ive had a young lad (no older than about 12/13) standing front of me,waving his penis at me and asking if I’d ‘wanna suck this’
fighting-at least twice a week
kids having sex in the toilets

many more but they know they are on cctv and just don’t give a damn

we throw them out,they come back in,we ring the police-they laugh in the coppers faces,we ban them-they come back in-rinse and repeat

my manager once told me that he’d been forced to ring the police every single shift he did for the last 4 months

the only time the police have done anything is when they smashed a glass wall-the parents got fined

the same parents came stomping in,screaming at us that their kids ‘dint do owt bitch!’ In my face-I wasn’t even there when they did it

best the police do is ‘have a word’

like they listen

Why do these idiots show up on any thread with their stupid attitudes.

Rodney that is appalling.
You are being abused and threatened - including sexually - at every shift.
I am hoping that you can find another job 😢💐

Last year I saw a man smack a little shit on the head after he warned them not to kick peoples wing mirrors in which a couple of wing mirrors were left hanging by the thread and the rest were smashed on to the ground. The man told them stop, the group went all gobby and tried it on the man's Audi and before attempting to kick the wing mirror on the man's Audi, the man smacked the little shit on the head. Que to crying and shouting abuse "im gonna fuck you up bro, you watch man". The man started chasing the kids and of course they disappeared shitting themselves. The road has been quiet since.