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I was told I can’t speak English

199 replies

Yoloohno · 17/06/2022 22:52

And no one can understand me while I wax at work.

I speak clearly and use correct English phrasing and terms.

is it discriminatory?

OP posts:
pantjog · 18/06/2022 01:16

It’s not bigoted to struggle to understand someone who literally says the opposite of what they mean.
Who knows if the “translation” is correct?
Anyway, maybe OP’s spoken English is fine but her written English was difficult for many people to understand.

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 01:20

Theres a difference in asking the OP encouraging and polite questions to determine what they mean and being full on patronising.

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steff13 · 18/06/2022 01:28

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 01:08

My translation:

  1. I was told I could not speak English and that no one could understand me, whilst at work. I can speak clearly and can use correct English phrasing and terms. Is this discriminatory?
  2. Bloody hell, talk about a typo making me seem that I can not speak English.
  3. Did I say I was a beautician?
Can’t really understand why others are struggling so much.

I thought #3 meant "did I say I wasn't a beautician?" Since I have a different interpretation I guess it is obvious why people are not understanding. 🤷‍♀️

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 01:42

steff13 · 18/06/2022 01:28

I thought #3 meant "did I say I wasn't a beautician?" Since I have a different interpretation I guess it is obvious why people are not understanding. 🤷‍♀️

Did I ever say I weren’t a beautician

I’m from Yorkshire, so I’m just imagining this in my accent “Did I ever say I were a beautician” - (typo of weren’t maybe they meant were), we normally speak like that. Meaning “Did I say I was …xyz”.

Obviously I’m not saying my translations are correct, the OP could be from Australia or the Amazon for all I know.

But who knows..

steff13 · 18/06/2022 01:50

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 01:42

Did I ever say I weren’t a beautician

I’m from Yorkshire, so I’m just imagining this in my accent “Did I ever say I were a beautician” - (typo of weren’t maybe they meant were), we normally speak like that. Meaning “Did I say I was …xyz”.

Obviously I’m not saying my translations are correct, the OP could be from Australia or the Amazon for all I know.

But who knows..

I live in Ohio, and if someone said "I weren't" it would be interpreted here as "I wasn't," just grammatically incorrect. Similar to saying "he don't" when you mean "he doesn't."

oakleaffy · 18/06/2022 01:53

''I was told I can't speak English''
I assumed this to mean that you weren't allowed to speak English ?

It's not very clear what you mean, so maybe people do have a point if you aren't communicating with them effectively?

me4real · 18/06/2022 01:57

I went to someone for eyebrows the other day and I couldn't really understand her but it doesn't matter if you do your job ok.

I'm annoyed that it was painful and she broke the skin somehow though.

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 01:57

I live in Ohio, and if someone said "I weren't" it would be interpreted here as "I wasn't," just grammatically incorrect. Similar to saying "he don't" when you mean "he doesn't."

Yes I agree same here - but I’m interpreting that the “weren’t” was suppose to be “were”.

As in the OP was saying - “Did I say I were a beautician?”

Because the OP didn’t say anywhere in her posts that they were a beautician.

nocoolnamesleft · 18/06/2022 02:00

Unless the "wax at work" was not in fact a typo.

me4real · 18/06/2022 02:01

@Yoloohno Ah ok it's a typo Smile

Then whether it's important that you speak English well would depend on the job.

steff13 · 18/06/2022 02:01

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 01:57

I live in Ohio, and if someone said "I weren't" it would be interpreted here as "I wasn't," just grammatically incorrect. Similar to saying "he don't" when you mean "he doesn't."

Yes I agree same here - but I’m interpreting that the “weren’t” was suppose to be “were”.

As in the OP was saying - “Did I say I were a beautician?”

Because the OP didn’t say anywhere in her posts that they were a beautician.

Oh, she said she was waxing at work, I thought she was doing eyebrows or a bikini wax or something, this she is a beautician. Hopefully.

steff13 · 18/06/2022 02:02

Thus, not this.

ventreàterre · 18/06/2022 02:04

It's entirely possible that people genuinely can't understand you because of your accent or unusual phrasing. It's not discriminatory to be honestly unable to understand someone with a heavy accent. Without seeing it happen, or at least reading some specific examples, I don't think anyone can say whether or not they're unreasonable.

Someone telling you that you "can't speak English" wasn't a polite way to address the issue, but maybe you're not as good at communicating in English as you think you are.

FlissyPaps · 18/06/2022 02:13

steff13 · 18/06/2022 02:01

Oh, she said she was waxing at work, I thought she was doing eyebrows or a bikini wax or something, this she is a beautician. Hopefully.

I took the “wax” as typo for “was”.

Because the OP’s next post was them saying “Bloody hell talk about a typo”.

I was told I can not speak English and no one can understand me while I was at work

Willyoujustbequiet · 18/06/2022 02:55

I'm sorry op but along with numerous others I don't think your posts are making much sense.

Ridiculous to suggest that makes me a bigot 🙄

CounsellorTroi · 18/06/2022 04:44

DropYourSword · 18/06/2022 01:03

I think that says more about you to be fair.
Even with typos it's still perfectly obvious what the OP is saying.
Pearl clutchers who pretend they simply can't understand something unless it's written in perfect English are as boring as they are ridiculous

I couldn’t agree more.

IfIhearmumagaintoday · 18/06/2022 05:21

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 17/06/2022 22:54

Do you have a very strong accent?

If people genuinely can't understand you, I'm not sure how it is discrimantory.

This would with be a huge complaint to HR in my work place they take it seriously.

Did the person ask you to repeat or explain again? It's typical and crass "you don't speak any English"

Ggg626262 · 18/06/2022 05:32

I own a lot of properties in the North East. Brilliant agent, constant email contact. Then she rang me and I couldn't understand a word she said 😀

PurBal · 18/06/2022 06:00

I struggle with accents different from my own or those I am familiar with even when English is someone’s first language. I’ve lived in a few (English speaking) countries and I understand those better than some regional dialects because I’m used to them.

Maisa45 · 18/06/2022 06:24

It takes a lot of courage to go out and speak another language so good for you on that front but in the nicest way possible it does seem that your English needs a bit of work. It seems from your posts that you are near fluent but that your grammar needs refining a little. Good luck!

girlmom21 · 18/06/2022 06:29

Are you English?
Are you from the south and moved north or north and moved south?

newnamethanks · 18/06/2022 06:37

The first time I heard someone speak with a heavy Glaswegian accent I couldn't understand a word. I knew he was speaking English as the person he was speaking to understood and answered in English. I was young and from the South, since then I've attuned myself to it. So, not necessarily an insult to you. I hope not.

yzed · 18/06/2022 06:39

I think on just about every single MumsNet thread I've ever read there have been typos and ridiculous autocorrections. Generally people have either understood the original meaning, or asked a question.

Why is it that on this thread posters have "been unable to understand" the typos and autocorrections, and so very unkind to the OP about them? Discriminatory? Racist? Or "just" unkind, unfriendly, and unwelcoming: