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AIBU or is baby name cultural appropriation a thing?

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WideOpenSpaces · 17/06/2022 01:42

I'm ready to be told I'm being silly BUT am I right in thinking there's a level of.. appropriateness? Inappropriateness? In using names from other cultures.
For example.. would it be strange for an English couple with no discernible links to any other countries or heritage to name their child Priya, Otto, Etienne or Niamh, among many other names.
To be honest I flip backwards and forwards between thinking there are so many lovely names in the world, why shouldn't they be used by whoever likes them, and then that it's just a bit strange if no link!
Happy to discuss, I have no strong feeling either way just intrigued to see what opinions there are.

OP posts:
Metabigot · 18/06/2022 12:51

Isn't imitation supposed to be the most sincere form of flattery?

SommerTen · 18/06/2022 13:23

I was named after an American lady who my mum met in a shop.. my mum just thought it was a pretty name. It's also unusual & more commonly used in the Balkans.

Together with my foreign sounding surname my name badge confuses a lot of my patients who ask if I'm 'really English'...

MissMarpleRocks · 18/06/2022 14:38

Gusfringrules · 18/06/2022 09:24

Unlike France, in the UK, You can name your child wharever the fuck you want to; however, this means we have 'Chardonnay' 'Paris', 'Chyanne' and other such car crashes.
But, it is a free country, and a free country allows freedom of expression
More important issues in the world

Paris is an Ancient Greek name, eg Paris of Troy who fell in love with Helen of Sparta, Homer’s Iliad.

In Greek it’s pronounced Baris which I think is Barry in English…

RedWingBoots · 18/06/2022 14:56

Next time you are questioned state that your names show some of the history of the UK. 😀

That's presuming you know the origin of your last name.

RedWingBoots · 18/06/2022 15:00

Gusfringrules · 18/06/2022 09:24

Unlike France, in the UK, You can name your child wharever the fuck you want to; however, this means we have 'Chardonnay' 'Paris', 'Chyanne' and other such car crashes.
But, it is a free country, and a free country allows freedom of expression
More important issues in the world

I suggest you check the origin of names before being nasty about them.

SummerPuddings · 18/06/2022 15:44

ElephantsFart · 18/06/2022 11:15

The idea of Cultural appropriation is fair for exploration but can be corrosive in practice - thoughtful people are afraid to engage with things that aren’t from their culture and worry endlessly about causing offence, and people who appropriate cultures to make money or satisfy their own wants are thick skinned and it won’t stop them. Has anyone else noticed this?

Yes.

SummerPuddings · 18/06/2022 15:46

Love the word Namaste!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gLHRL9D60zU

Trixiefirecracker · 18/06/2022 16:22

Most people on this thread have absolutely no idea what cultural appropriation is because if they did they wouldn’t be worrying about what to name their child.

paulajon · 18/06/2022 16:28

Don't worry too much. Children who hate their names can always change them. I did and it upset my parents, but as I pointed out to them, they didn't bother consulting me about their choice, so it cuts both ways.

paulajon · 18/06/2022 16:30

SummerPuddings · 18/06/2022 15:46

There are two takeaways near me. One is Namaste, the other is Burger Heaven.
I'd definitely go with Namaste as a preference.

reluctantbrit · 18/06/2022 18:55

paulajon · 18/06/2022 16:28

Don't worry too much. Children who hate their names can always change them. I did and it upset my parents, but as I pointed out to them, they didn't bother consulting me about their choice, so it cuts both ways.

DD is planning to change her name. I am in two minds, on one hand it’s sad that she is not happy with our choice but on the other hand, that’s the whole thing, it’s the parent’s choice, not the child.

She chose a name I would never have chosen, a family member has the name and I never liked her very much and it’s for me a very old fashion name. But, it’s her life and it’s hardly a topic to fall out about in my opinion.

I still have to removed myself how to call her but it’s getting better.

reluctantbrit · 18/06/2022 18:56

Remove - remember

apintortwo · 18/06/2022 18:57

Appropriation would be doing yoga and saying “namaste” at the end, divorcing the word from its original meaning and use in order to exoticise your whiteness

Well...froth away, as nearly every yoga teacher on the classes I've been to has said 'namaste' at the end 🙄

Also, why do you think white people would desire to exoticise anything? Most are perfectly happy with the way they are. It's offensive to suggest that exotic=good white=bad

Also as to the OP, most people would want to give their children names in line with their own culture, I don't understand why they would want to deviate from this. There are very few exceptions, so you are fretting over a non-issue really

Trixiefirecracker · 18/06/2022 18:59

I know a child called ‘Namaste’ 😂

Trixiefirecracker · 18/06/2022 19:00

…they are British too. 😳

paulajon · 18/06/2022 20:09

"in order to exoticise your whiteness"
Most folk I know use extensive tattoos to achieve that.

paulajon · 18/06/2022 20:10

Trixiefirecracker · 18/06/2022 18:59

I know a child called ‘Namaste’ 😂

Could have been worse. 'Biryani', for example.

TheKeatingFive · 18/06/2022 20:18

How would you tell if you're doing yoga to 'exoticise your whiteness' rather than exercise/breathing/posture/well being?

And what are you supposed to do if your yoga teacher says namaste to you? Ignore them?

MigsandTiggs · 18/06/2022 20:50

I read both articles. The first was an opinion piece. I have skin in the game but my opinion differs and the writer and I are both entitled to our opinions. However they are just that, opinions, not facts. I however, don’t feel the need to foist my opinions on others. I’m just glad that people find spiritual or physical benefit in yoga. The 2nd piece starts with a particular attitude in the USA, then makes a universal claim from it. Lazy analysis and conclusion.

Mfsf · 19/06/2022 08:11

Who cares if a name originates elsewhere ? This just shows how much anti multi cultural am and xenophobia is ingrained in Britain !

sst1234 · 19/06/2022 12:12

Mfsf · 19/06/2022 08:11

Who cares if a name originates elsewhere ? This just shows how much anti multi cultural am and xenophobia is ingrained in Britain !

Does it? I know it’s the done thing to look for racism everywhere, but really?

Mfsf · 19/06/2022 14:08

sst1234 · 19/06/2022 12:12

Does it? I know it’s the done thing to look for racism everywhere, but really?

Xenophobia and racism are different things . Claiming a name can only be used because of their origin is literally xenophobia. Literally everyone has names with origins elsewhere , look the royal family Charlotte , Louis are both french , William itself is German .

suzyscat · 19/06/2022 15:02

The royal family are German.

SemperIdem · 19/06/2022 16:01

The Royal family are English, with German ancestry.

Mfsf · 19/06/2022 16:27

Are they french too ?

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