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Please vote if you’ve seen This is Us……

44 replies

Acronymmuch · 03/06/2022 22:05

I know This Is Us is some saccharine American bullshit but I’m a little obsessed and would really would like to know if love like Jack & Rebecca’s exists? Love with passion and unfailing faith in your partner that endures, with the sort of intensity they have, through all the ups and downs..beyond the honeymooon period, pregnancy, early childhood years, teenage years etc.
Do you know anyone with a relationship like Jack and Rebecca’s who’ve been married for 20 years?
YABU - of course it exists, I know plenty of couples like this. In fact people probably refer to me & my partner as Jack & Rebecca
YANBU - This type of love that endures long term and is still as passionate and single-minded as theirs can only be fictional and anyone who says otherwise is lying

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stayathomegardener · 03/06/2022 22:25

I'm not sure Rebecca and Jacks relationship isn't viewed through rose tinted glasses after his death.

Jack had his hang ups but to me personally some of his traits were intolerable.

stayathomegardener · 03/06/2022 22:30

To clarify DH and I have been together 32 years with a DD 23, I think to many we are a poster couple. Reality is it's not perfect despite how it looks.

I still adore him despite the hiccups.

Maisa45 · 03/06/2022 22:32

I'm not sure Rebecca and Jacks relationship isn't viewed through rose tinted glasses after his death.

Yes, this. Plus if he hadn't died young their relationship may not even have lasted.

Saying that, I do know one couple who are best friends, have only ever been with each other and gave been together for over 50 years. I know another couple, only ever been with each other, been together 20 years.

Runningnewbie · 03/06/2022 22:33

Aww I think her love for Miguel was just as powerful

stayathomegardener · 03/06/2022 22:35

@Runningnewbie Miguel is underrated!

maddy68 · 03/06/2022 22:39

I've been with my oh for 38 yes and we are each others best friends so yes it exists

I do think her love for Miguel is just as strong

Fiftyplanner · 03/06/2022 22:42

I felt very sad that Miguel didn’t get as big a part in some of the later episodes (don’t want to give any spoilers) and agree their love was as pure, real in sickness and in health.

XelaM · 03/06/2022 22:54

Yes. My parents. Married for 46 years and still best friends. They have been through incredible ups and downs throughout their lives - had to move countries numerous times/ got very rich then lost it all completely unexpectedly and had to rebuild/ kids/ grandkids and many other trials and tribulations. They are still best friends and honestly love each other's company over anyone else.

Also, my now deceased grandparents have known each other since primary school and had been married for 65 years. My grandmother's love for my grandfather was honestly the absolute definition of true love. Her whole life, he was always her number 1 person - even above her kids and grandkids whom she adored. She was a very outgoing and confident person with a huge circle of friends, very successful career and she was a real matriarch of our family. My grandfather was a very quiet, introverted man and everyone thought that my grandmother ran the roost, BUT in reality he was her absolute rock and she never made a single decision without consulting him and would value his opinion above anyone else's. I always thought she couldn't live without him, but he could live without her. But when she died, he completely fell apart. He just crumbled and died within a few months of her completely unexpectedly (he was healthy but contracted sepsis completely out of the blue). He just couldn't live without her.

Acronymmuch · 03/06/2022 23:02

So ok…I agree Miguel is underrated. He’s a rock. But there’s none of the spark. I think it’s been written like he’s the conciliation prize-hence the “he’s underrated” feeling and lack of screen time - and maybe they’re suggesting…or not suggesting but planting the seed…that blinding, passionate love like rebecca & jacks can exist OR enduring, safe, dependable love like rebecca & miguels can exist. But rebecca and jack had all of those things too before you know..no spoilers. So again the question..can that be real? As real as Jack and Rebecca's love? I suppose I see most long term relationships as being more like rebecca and Miguel than rebecca and jack…..WDYT?

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BrieAndChilli · 03/06/2022 23:03

I’ve been with DH for 22 years. I think because Jack died pretty young that his memory is viewed through the best memories, no-one ponders on the times you argued over who was putting the bins out or the night someone had too much to drink so passed out before sex or the endless monotony of loading the dishwasher etc etc
I think of DH died now then of course I would only talk about the good times to let teenage children.

Acronymmuch · 03/06/2022 23:04

@XelaM that’s beautiful. Thank you for sharing.

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XelaM · 03/06/2022 23:05

Acronymmuch · 03/06/2022 23:02

So ok…I agree Miguel is underrated. He’s a rock. But there’s none of the spark. I think it’s been written like he’s the conciliation prize-hence the “he’s underrated” feeling and lack of screen time - and maybe they’re suggesting…or not suggesting but planting the seed…that blinding, passionate love like rebecca & jacks can exist OR enduring, safe, dependable love like rebecca & miguels can exist. But rebecca and jack had all of those things too before you know..no spoilers. So again the question..can that be real? As real as Jack and Rebecca's love? I suppose I see most long term relationships as being more like rebecca and Miguel than rebecca and jack…..WDYT?

Yes, as I posted above. My parents have this after 46 years of marriage and my grandparents had it too (65-year very happy marriage).

XelaM · 03/06/2022 23:07

Sorry, cross-posted.

i must say, my own marriage was nothing like it and ended not long after it began 😂but I married the wrong person

pastabest · 03/06/2022 23:15

Jack - who was basically estranged from his family?
Jack - who had issues with alcohol?
Jack - who kept some really massive secrets whilst married?
Jack - who basically landed an adopted child on his wife shortly after she had a stillborn child and didn't give her much choice?

Jack was really flawed, and I'm not sure him and Rebecca would have stayed together forever had he not died young. He is idolised in the memories of his children and that is the premise of the show.

The quiet, grown up appreciative love of Miguel and Rebecca is what I aspire to not the hot but fragile love of Rebecca and Jack.

spotcheck · 03/06/2022 23:27

Hmmmm
I don't think Jack and Rebecca were fragile at all. I think Rebecca was 'of her time' and raised ( like her mum) to put up with a lot of shit. But they went through loads of lows and made it through. They totally would have made the distance

pastabest · 03/06/2022 23:39

spotcheck · 03/06/2022 23:27

Hmmmm
I don't think Jack and Rebecca were fragile at all. I think Rebecca was 'of her time' and raised ( like her mum) to put up with a lot of shit. But they went through loads of lows and made it through. They totally would have made the distance

All those 'lows' were caused by Jack though. Like you say she put up with a lot of shit so they could make it through.

That's not what I would call a stable relationship.

JulesRimetStillGleaming · 03/06/2022 23:43

Well he died so it wasn't actually that enduring....

Basketet · 03/06/2022 23:46

YABU - My DPs are still very much in love, as they were in their younger years. Nearly 50 years on.

YANBU - because I have yet to find this sort of love.

There are plenty of examples of fictional and a lot of non-fictional perfect love matches like this IRL. Probably more fantasy ones, but nonetheless love is a thing to aspire to and to be believed and cherished.

Acronymmuch · 03/06/2022 23:54

But true love endures beyond death. And in jack & Rebecca’s case I think that’s really true

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Acronymmuch · 03/06/2022 23:55

Sorry that was replying to @JulesRimetStillGleaming

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Acronymmuch · 04/06/2022 00:36

Wow this vote is seriously tight.
As @Basketet says, some of us may know a couple (our parents/grandparents if we’re lucky) who have a love like Jack & Rebecca’s but not have that ourselves.
When I freak out about this kind of thing (not being all passionate and totally loved up after many sleepless and worrying years) my partner (who has never seen this is us..I freak out in a more general way to them!) is very rational and calms me down saying that while we had that for the first few years of our relationship, that over the years, that has transitioned into something long lasting, stable and strong and that we should be celebrating that.

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JulesRimetStillGleaming · 04/06/2022 07:52

I think you're idealising something that actually wasn't that great. Leave your husband if you like but I think you'll find the grass isn't necessarily greener. Certainly don't leave him based on a TV show romance which was never ever ever real. It's someone else's imagination!

Acronymmuch · 04/06/2022 08:35

@JulesRimetStillGleaming Wow that’s some jump you’ve made there!! This is a lighthearted post about a fictional relationship in a tv show and how much it reflects real life relationships. I’m not thinking about leaving my husband at all..not sure how you got to that. I was reflecting on our relationship in the context of the show which is the point of the post.

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Acronymmuch · 04/06/2022 08:36

And yes, I know fictional tv shows come from someone’s imagination 🤨

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JulesRimetStillGleaming · 04/06/2022 08:39

You're the one "freaking out" - your words - about your relationship.

Relationships on TV aren't real. Have some therapy rather than canvas opinions on a fake TV romance on the internet to get some kind of reassurance about your own relationship. It's an odd thing to do.

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