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No Jubilee decorations in Northern Ireland

174 replies

Futball13 · 01/06/2022 12:14

Preparing for a party this weekend and thought I would double up as a Jubilee party...but to my surprise when I went to three shops,-Asda, B and M bargains and Home Bargains there wasn't a single paper cup, plate or decoration for the Jubilee. I was expecting large displays when I walked in. AIBU to expect to have the choice to buy decorations in local shops like in the rest of Britain? Obviously (like in the rest of Britain) some people do not support the royal family and will choose not to celebrate. I was just a bit shocked shops were missing out on the profit from sales.

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TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2022 19:22

I hardly think he’d have achieved that position in a company based on state of the art technology if he was considered “backward” somehow.

im not sure why you'd conclude that, plenty of powerful but backward people out there.

DownNative · 01/06/2022 19:25

ssd · 01/06/2022 17:14

I was shocked to see some in an asda outside Glasgow yesterday. I thought we had more fucking sense. But there's always the knuckle draggers who love a union jack.

Would you call those who buy St Andrews flag themed items as...."knuckledraggers"?! 🤔

Blossomtoes · 01/06/2022 19:25

OK @TheKeatingFive, I know how much you like having the last word. Crack on 🤷‍♀️

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2022 19:26

I know how much you like having the last word. Crack on

Will do 😂

But do look up Naomi. She's kinda important.

Ifailed · 01/06/2022 19:27

Its probably more a London and South of Englsnd thing

Not true, in my experience. Bar the 'professional' displays in central London and shops, I think it's notable that most houses have no bunting or flags, I'm in Kent which is certainly in the south of England.

JaneJeffer · 01/06/2022 19:33

Coincidence or ?

JaneJeffer · 01/06/2022 19:33

Forgot pic

No Jubilee decorations in Northern Ireland
PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 19:40

sylv165 · 01/06/2022 19:03

Another NI resident here (I think I live very close to @PaddleBoardingMomma as I actually recognise her flag photo) and am utterly confused by the controversy over the term mainland. I thought that was just a totally normal, not at all political thing to say?! Everyone I know uses it to refer collectively to England, Scotland and Wales.

Right? It's bizarre... all these people who don't live here and mix with both sides thinking they know best!

And that flag (the queen one!) was when we were driving through cloughey, they were up in portaferry too. I live near holywood and it's up there too.

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 19:43

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 19:40

Right? It's bizarre... all these people who don't live here and mix with both sides thinking they know best!

And that flag (the queen one!) was when we were driving through cloughey, they were up in portaferry too. I live near holywood and it's up there too.

Oooh holywood, the nice cafe end or the erm...more robust side?

DownNative · 01/06/2022 19:44

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 16:05

"Mainlaind stores' - LOL - you do realise that Ireland and England are two SEPARATE islands. There's no mainland - silly you.

You're unreasonable here.

Northern Ireland IS part of the UK and most people there DO refer to Great Britain as "the mainland".

There's nothing offensive about it. Talk about clutching at straws!

Mainland means "a large continuous extent of land that includes the greater part of a country or territory, as opposed to offshore islands and detached territories."

In other words, to the residents of Tasmania, Australia is the mainland. But to the residents of Flinders, Tasmania AND Australia are both mainland.

Likewise, to the residents of Northern Ireland, Great Britain is the mainland. To the residents of Orkney and Shetland Islands, Great Britain is the mainland.

In both the examples above, Australia and Great Britain is the "greater part of a country" known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

It's consistent around the world, in reality.

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 19:44

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2022 19:26

I know how much you like having the last word. Crack on

Will do 😂

But do look up Naomi. She's kinda important.

@TheKeatingFive well played 😃

DownNative · 01/06/2022 19:46

In both the examples above, Australia and Great Britain is the "greater part of a country" known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Meantto include Australia's full title - Commonwealth Of Australia.

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 19:55

DownNative · 01/06/2022 19:44

You're unreasonable here.

Northern Ireland IS part of the UK and most people there DO refer to Great Britain as "the mainland".

There's nothing offensive about it. Talk about clutching at straws!

Mainland means "a large continuous extent of land that includes the greater part of a country or territory, as opposed to offshore islands and detached territories."

In other words, to the residents of Tasmania, Australia is the mainland. But to the residents of Flinders, Tasmania AND Australia are both mainland.

Likewise, to the residents of Northern Ireland, Great Britain is the mainland. To the residents of Orkney and Shetland Islands, Great Britain is the mainland.

In both the examples above, Australia and Great Britain is the "greater part of a country" known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

It's consistent around the world, in reality.

Thats a post with a lot of effort. Tasmania for example is just one island and accepts it is part of australia. Ireland meanwhile does not. But you know that.
Northern Ireland residents dont refer to the UK as the mainland, only those who hark back to the good old days of unionist heavy policing and politics. Those days are gone now thanks to knuckledraggers and representation by people like Arlene. Now look where she got her community- a nationalist majority. Most unionists I work with are secretly mortified they are from N.I- with a bit of travel and education and exposure to non fatal negotiating styles they see a lot of unionist communities as still living in the dark ages. Boris J is not gonna save y'all.

DownNative · 01/06/2022 20:00

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 19:40

Right? It's bizarre... all these people who don't live here and mix with both sides thinking they know best!

And that flag (the queen one!) was when we were driving through cloughey, they were up in portaferry too. I live near holywood and it's up there too.

Ah, Holywood is actually my hometown. Indeed, they'll have plenty up over this weekend.

I know of a lot of Catholics who enjoy watching the bands march down the High Street each July too. Many of them I'll be related to.

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 20:07

@ThisisMax

Let me simplify this for you:

Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. A majority of the UK is on an island just to the right of NI on a map, if you look it up... it's bigger than us over here in NI, it's the MAINLAND. If Northern Ireland was Ireland then it would be ridiculous to call it the mainland, because it has would have no connection to Ireland and would be an entirely different country. Hope you're keeping up so far...

But, as it stands, NI is part of the UK, not Ireland. So calling it the mainland makes total sense, everyone I've ever met on both sides says it... in fact the only ones who make a fuss are the opinionated sectarians like yourself.

I bet you call it the "north of Ireland" too, don't ya?

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 20:08

Almost as if she heard us...

No Jubilee decorations in Northern Ireland
PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 20:09

@DownNative oh lovely! I'm sure I know a few friends and family ❤️ and yes, it's a usually a nice day, most people come down to enjoy it, same as May Day... now we have the maypole back! 😂

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2022 20:10

everyone I've ever met on both sides says it

I can't imagine you've met too many nationalists then because growing up as one of them, no, not ever. Very much the preserve of unionists for obvious reasons

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 20:10

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 20:07

@ThisisMax

Let me simplify this for you:

Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. A majority of the UK is on an island just to the right of NI on a map, if you look it up... it's bigger than us over here in NI, it's the MAINLAND. If Northern Ireland was Ireland then it would be ridiculous to call it the mainland, because it has would have no connection to Ireland and would be an entirely different country. Hope you're keeping up so far...

But, as it stands, NI is part of the UK, not Ireland. So calling it the mainland makes total sense, everyone I've ever met on both sides says it... in fact the only ones who make a fuss are the opinionated sectarians like yourself.

I bet you call it the "north of Ireland" too, don't ya?

I love your outrage. Ever travelled? Keep it up, Im still here, in Ireland, listening to you talk about 6 counties in Ireland that I can drive to, unhindered, with no border checks in less than an hour...

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 20:11

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2022 20:10

everyone I've ever met on both sides says it

I can't imagine you've met too many nationalists then because growing up as one of them, no, not ever. Very much the preserve of unionists for obvious reasons

Yup. Out to paint the kerbs! Wheres the mugs, the bunting, our history!!!!

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 20:12

@ThisisMax actually... it's not a nationalist majority, Sinn Fein took stormont fair and square with very little gains, actually. It was because the unionist side is very fractured and there were too many separate parties between the unionists. But don't let facts stand in the way of a good Mumsnet post, crack on and embarrass yourself a bit more it's very entertaining!

DownNative · 01/06/2022 20:14

ThisisMax · 01/06/2022 19:55

Thats a post with a lot of effort. Tasmania for example is just one island and accepts it is part of australia. Ireland meanwhile does not. But you know that.
Northern Ireland residents dont refer to the UK as the mainland, only those who hark back to the good old days of unionist heavy policing and politics. Those days are gone now thanks to knuckledraggers and representation by people like Arlene. Now look where she got her community- a nationalist majority. Most unionists I work with are secretly mortified they are from N.I- with a bit of travel and education and exposure to non fatal negotiating styles they see a lot of unionist communities as still living in the dark ages. Boris J is not gonna save y'all.

"Thats a post with a lot of effort."

No, it's a post with supporting evidence. And that is valid.

"Tasmania for example is just one island and accepts it is part of australia. Ireland meanwhile does not. But you know that."

Well, is anyone saying "Ireland" aka the Republic of Ireland is part of the UK?

No, not at all. Furthermore, the Republic does NOT fit the definition provided since it is NOT part of the UK. Hence, the UK is not a mainland in contrast to the Republic.

But Northern Ireland DOES fit the definition since it IS part of the UK. Hence, mainland is perfectly reasonable a term to use.

As per the GFA, it is accepted by a clear majority across the divide in Northern Ireland that its part of the UK.

"Northern Ireland residents dont refer to the UK as the mainland..."

Except they do. I've known Nationalists and the odd Republican to refer to GB as the mainland as well.

"only those who hark back to the good old days of unionist heavy policing and politics. Those days are gone now thanks to knuckledraggers and representation by people like Arlene."

Very outdated view that's more applicable to a minority of Loyalists. Most Unionists, on the other hand, do not fit your definition.

Something tells me you'd be offended by sweeping generalised statements that Irish people are terrorists or terrorist supporting Provos....wouldn't you?

So, you really should refrain from treating others in this manner. It says more about you in this thread than it does about anyone else.

"....a nationalist majority."

No, Stormont still has a Unionist majority if you actually paid attention to the numbers.

"Most unionists I work with are secretly mortified they are from N.I- with a bit of travel and education and exposure to non fatal negotiating styles they see a lot of unionist communities as still living in the dark ages. Boris J is not gonna save y'all."

Just more meaningless rhetoric from you here. Like I said, you wouldn't like it if it was reversed.

You've added nothing of worth to the discussion here and only succeeded in showing yourself up with your comments.

PaddleBoardingMomma · 01/06/2022 20:17

@ThisisMax have I ever travelled? Lol no sure I've never left Sandy Row!

Please, you are getting a bit too cringey now. I have friends, in-laws and wonderful colleagues on both sides, funnily enough no one gives a shit about it much any more, it's people like yourself who want to cause trouble by telling others their words hurt your feelings just for a reaction.

You still haven't told me how NI being part of the UK means that we can't call that bit of land to the right the mainland?

Londonderry34 · 01/06/2022 20:19

Mainland girl here and I might just hang some out to join in with the rest of the road because it looks pretty and will be an ironic gesture from me.

DownNative · 01/06/2022 20:36

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2022 20:10

everyone I've ever met on both sides says it

I can't imagine you've met too many nationalists then because growing up as one of them, no, not ever. Very much the preserve of unionists for obvious reasons

Oh, you've met every single Nationalist and Republican, aye? 🙄

This is as bad as saying "all Catholics are Nationalists/Republicans and all Protestants are Unionists/Loyalists".

You cannot be absolute here.