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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To tell someone who's just had a cigarette that they're not holding my newborn?

27 replies

MissM94 · 27/05/2022 10:23

Just that really. Little back story is she's had no interest in my pregnancy, made a couple of comments that highlighted how little of a fuck she gave for my unborn child and just isn't arsed in general, it wasn't expected of her because she was always so excited at the thought of me being a mum and couldn't wait for me to be pregnant pre actual pregnancy but it is what it is. I smoked on and off pre pregnancy & stopped and highlighted how bad it is for babies and how it sticks to your clothes etc & used to always talk about how I couldn't go into family members houses because I would stink of smoke due to the years of smoking in the houses and she was the first person to say I can't take the baby there, it just wasn't a secret my feelings about smoking near me and the baby when they was here, so she came to meet my newborn with her sister (who is also my friend) and friend came in by herself, I asked where other friend was, she said she was outside having a cig I said are you joking? Friend said no, I told her not to have one. So friend walks in and I say I can't believe you've just had a cig before meeting him, she said "I've washed my hands and sprayed" I said I don't care it's still on you, you won't be able to hold him now she said "that's fine" looked a little flustered but generally was okay talking and laughing and stayed for about 2/3 hours, cos she had been here a few hours towards to end I said she can have a hold of him now & she said "are you sure? I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable.. you should of just said you didn't want me to smoke" I didn't think I had to say because is it not common sense to not having a cig when going near a baby? Anyway, she's since wrote a tweet about the "way she gets treated" (we're not 12, believe it or not) and has full on seen her arse about it and is currently a victim because of how I treated her because apparently I can't ask a smoker to not hold my child after having a cig?

So, AIBU or is she? I'm genuinely doubting myself

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MinnieGirl · 27/05/2022 10:31

Your baby your rules.
The effects of passive smoking are so well known you shouldn’t have to say anything. I would not have let her into my house if she’s had a cigarette. It’s her choice to smoke, your baby doesn’t get a choice.

Protect your baby, and don’t take any notice of her silky posts

ThreeLittleDots · 27/05/2022 10:33

She's a twat, ignore it.

orwellwasright · 27/05/2022 10:47

Not sure I'd be too worried about risks if it was afterwards but the smell really lingers on people's skin and clothes and will transfer with close contact.

I wouldn't want my baby to smell of cigarette smoke so it's a hard no from me.

MissM94 · 27/05/2022 11:00

@MinnieGirl that's what I thought! It's no bloody secret how bad smoking is and the after effects, but clearly I'm the dickhead!

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MissM94 · 27/05/2022 11:03

@ThreeLittleDots thank you, the biggest twat but I really started doubting myself!

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MissM94 · 27/05/2022 11:04

@orwellwasright definitely! And I don't think it's unreasonable to not want my baby to smell like cigs and have all the toxins on him.. aren't some people wild with the way they think 😂

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MrsCooper2 · 27/05/2022 11:12

I seriously cannot be bothered with people that write PA posts on social media. She needs to bloody grow up! Just ignore her and her ridiculous tweet.

rainyskylight · 27/05/2022 11:15

It’s not just the hands though. It’s a whole stale smell wafting around. I have a colleague who comes back in after a cigarette and the smell makes me nauseous. It’s foul, why put a newborn through that. Ew.

sassyduck · 27/05/2022 11:20

Ignore her. YANBU.

Cuwins · 27/05/2022 11:24

Absolutely not being unreasonable. Even before our baby was born (now 3m) I told my partner that one of his best friends would not be allowed to hold the baby as he always smells of smoke. Thankfully as he lives a distance away we actually haven't seen him so it hasn't come up.

Myshitisreal · 27/05/2022 11:32

She's seen her arse about it? 🤔

Disgusting person. No no no no no. Babies and cigs, no. Just no. Her bad

Suprima · 27/05/2022 11:36

I’d just say ‘no, it’s on your clothes. Spraying hands doesn’t matter’ and deal with the outcome.

I’m not precious by any means, but smokers stink and they wouldn’t be holding my baby. Anyone else can kiss and snuggle and jiggle away.

thankfully only one friend smokes, none of my family.

Ottersmith · 27/05/2022 11:40

In this day and age it's fucking crazy to think you can have a cig then go and hold someone's newborn. Also they need their sense of smell to help them breast feed and bond with their mother so they don't want dirty old fagash Lil clogging up their nostrils.

Irishfarmer · 27/05/2022 11:40

YANBU, I wouldn't be letting it either.

BornIn78 · 27/05/2022 11:43

After all your blathering though, you actually did let her have a hold of your baby.

Why?

Glitterspy · 27/05/2022 11:52

Ur bubz ur rulez hun

Notodaynotever · 27/05/2022 11:57

You're not unreasonable but you sound like you were kicking off to people who were only bring nice.

You'll lose friends like this.

Next time pleasantly explain what you expect in advance. So if someone's smoked you'll need them to stay outside for a certain length of time and change their top and wash their hands and wait half an hour before holding baby. That is reasonable to me. But don't huff that they don't automatically know. You need friends at a time like this!

MissM94 · 27/05/2022 12:07

Thank you everyone for the clarification, I feel stupid even asking because obviously she's being very fucking unreasonable but I was seriously doubting myself due to her behaviour, made me think I must be out of order!

@BornIn78 as she had been there for 2/3 hours after having the cig I started to feel guilty about how I spoke to her & I seen that she had got me a birthday present so I felt even more guilty so as it had been a good few hours since I decided to let her hold the baby, there's a long history of her making me feel guilty even though she's the one in the wrong so I guess she has a little hold on my good nature, but there was absolutely no way she was holding the baby originally it was only because it had been a few hours, she wouldn't of held him if it had been any less time

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MissM94 · 27/05/2022 12:09

Notodaynotever · 27/05/2022 11:57

You're not unreasonable but you sound like you were kicking off to people who were only bring nice.

You'll lose friends like this.

Next time pleasantly explain what you expect in advance. So if someone's smoked you'll need them to stay outside for a certain length of time and change their top and wash their hands and wait half an hour before holding baby. That is reasonable to me. But don't huff that they don't automatically know. You need friends at a time like this!

Thank you, but I don't know how you've got that she was trying to be nice.. when I've stated that she hasn't given a single shit about my baby throughout my pregnancy, if that's how "friends" act then that's not people I need in my life tbh

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RedRobyn2021 · 27/05/2022 12:56

She's definitely being unreasonable for sure

Who smokes a cigarette before meeting a baby??

MissM94 · 27/05/2022 13:13

@RedRobyn2021 exactly my thoughts 🤦🏼‍♀️ couldn't even process who would think it would be alright?!

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Notodaynotever · 27/05/2022 15:00

She's being nice by showing up and acting pleasant but if that means nothing to you, I suppose you have nothing to salvage here. If you're really annoyed about her lack of concern, say that and don't go off about the smoking like it's the only issue.

Butchyrestingface · 27/05/2022 15:20

Who is she?

balalake · 27/05/2022 15:33

100% your decision and I would do the same in your shoes.

PurpleButterflyWings · 27/05/2022 15:37

YANBU.