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To think they are planning to axe the wrong BBC channels...

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jobhunter7 · 26/05/2022 21:56

Isn't BBC 4 what a public broadcaster should be doing? Not BBC 3 for example...

I suppose they could at least put the good stuff that would have gone on BBC 4 on BBC 2 as they would have fitted back in past...

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/05/2022 16:47

I think I'm the only one here who is glad that BBC3 is back on TV.

It's not that I'm not glad to see it back - there is some stuff on there that I like (along with all the other stuff that's probably aimed at a younger demographic than the likes of me). It may just have been my imagination, but having the Eurovision semi-finals back on BBC3 seemed like they'd returned to their natural home and they felt like more of an event, more appreciated; the years when they parked them on BBC4, it felt a bit less 'proper'.

I'm just surprised that they went to the trouble of bringing back a channel - any channel - that had already moved (and it happens to be the one aimed at the young adult digital native demographic) and are now looking at moving others back online. It's a bit like decorating your house and getting a new extension when you know it's due to be demolished in three months' time anyway.

TheDogsMother · 27/05/2022 17:08

Can't they just be watched on iPlayer instead though ?

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/05/2022 17:27

Can't they just be watched on iPlayer instead though ?

They can, but a lot of people still like traditional telly - scheduled and curated for you. Plus, you can't record off iPlayer.

Something like NetFlix has only ever been internet TV, so that's just normal; but if you ask people to name a broadcaster that actually broadcasts 'traditional' telly, the vast majority of British people would instantly say 'the BBC'. Once they start abandoning the standard telly platform (as opposed to also offering online catch-up as an extra service), it seems like the beginning of the end for it.

luciatrope · 27/05/2022 17:27

Can't they just be watched on iPlayer instead though ?

For BBC4, which has a large share of older viewers, this over-estimates the amount of older people who are tech-savvy. A lot of them will not have iPlayer accounts, find it a faff, too tricky to deal with, etc. Shoving everything online is not the answer when it requires a whole new method of watching TV.

MarshaBradyo · 27/05/2022 17:29

As long as they leave the radio stations

Antarcticant · 27/05/2022 17:31

Can't they just be watched on iPlayer instead though ?

Take my elderly parents. They don't have a smart TV. They have an ancient laptop which probably wouldn't run I-player but even if it did, my dad would struggle to watch on a small screen because he's partially sighted and very deaf.

TheDogsMother · 27/05/2022 19:17

Ah ok. I hadn't thought that through.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 27/05/2022 19:21

They have an ancient laptop which probably wouldn't run I-player but even if it did, my dad would struggle to watch on a small screen because he's partially sighted and very deaf.

Not that it's much consolation, but if it did work and both it and their telly has an HDMI socket (or they can get an adaptor), they can connect it to their telly. That's what we do if we watch iPlayer or NetFlix together.

It is a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy that viewing figures will go down, though, Apart from the people who aren't online being excluded immediately, once you're online and minded to watch telly/a video, there is so much to choose from across so many platforms, meaning that those who choose the 'normal' telly channels is naturally going to be heavily diluted.

There's also the 'serendipity' aspect, in that, with normal telly, you can have it on, flick through or look at the listings and catch something you really enjoy by accident. With online, you have to have a good idea of what you want already and actively search for it. Moreover, something that's always there and at hand can seem less special, as there's no rush or time constraint, so you never get around to making the effort - in the same way that plenty of born-and-bred Londoners will have visited fewer of the city's attractions than has a Japanese or American tourist on a one-off two-week holiday. Ironically, being available 24/7 can lead to getting fewer viewers than only being on at 7:30 on Tuesday evening.

SnackSizeRaisin · 27/05/2022 19:24

Antarcticant · 27/05/2022 08:15

I can only guess this is an attempt to reel in younger people who don't watch live TV, to start getting licence fees from them before all the older people who are paying it die off.

It won't work that way. It will just give BBC4 watchers one more reason to stop watching live TV and paying for a licence.

Rightly or wrongly, the TV licence is ultimately doomed.

You need a TV licence to watch iPlayer even if not live.
Also you need a tv licence to watch any live stream service including Eurosport.
It's not just for old fashioned terrestrial TV

Antarcticant · 27/05/2022 19:29

Not that it's much consolation, but if it did work and both it and their telly has an HDMI socket (or they can get an adaptor), they can connect it to their telly. That's what we do if we watch iPlayer or NetFlix together.

It's a fairly new TV so probably has HDMI but I don't think they'd be able to grasp the technical side of all that. As an example of their level, my mum accidentally put their landline on mute and in the end my sister had to go round and sort it out because my parents couldn't do it despite supposedly following the clear instructions we were giving her on her emergency mobile phone!

Snowiscold · 27/05/2022 19:34

Bringing BBC3 back on terrestrial was designed surely to attract younger people into watching TV, or at least making them more aware of what the BBC produces - even if they ultimately watch it online.
CBBC going online is very disappointing. It will stop access to decent programming for many deprived groups. In the pandemic, CBBC ran loads of specially produced educational programmes for children who were out of school - on a TV so that people could access them, not dependent on a ropey mobile phone with no data.

pussycatlickinglollyices · 27/05/2022 19:57

I'm not sure why all of the radio stations aren't scrapped put on an online-only platform.
All of the music is pre-recorded anyway. Only the sports would need to be live (obvs with the hourly news update).

I'd much rather they scrap EastEnders, anything with "Great" in it (especially as they lost Bake off to Ch4), Mrs Browns Boys and all of the endless "Chef" and antiques programmes.
And Sky/BT can have Wimbledon too - especially as I can't watch the Masters or live F1 anymore.

Notbluepeter · 27/05/2022 20:34

Channel 4 was the only channel left with any substance. I really hope Storyville is picked up online still.

110APiccadilly · 27/05/2022 20:56

I'm not sure why all of the radio stations aren't scrapped put on an online-only platform.

Don't quite a lot of people still listen in the car? I suspect that's why. A lot of people still have fairly basic technology in their cars (we can't, for instance, connect a phone to our car speakers). Until that changes, there will certainly be some demand for broadcast radio.

Snowiscold · 27/05/2022 21:00

40% of radio is listened to on analogue radio. Radio is crucial when there’s no internet or WiFi. It’s an essential service -Eg, shipping forecasts.

bridgetreilly · 27/05/2022 23:56

There are still continuity announcers, jingles, links, trailers, someone on standby unless there's a breakdown in transmission.

Those are all pre-recorded as well, though, and often played multiple times. I’m not sure what provision they have for breaks in transmission on digital radio, but I’d be surprised if it requires a whole person for every digital station.

I'm not sure why all of the radio stations aren't scrapped put on an online-only platform.

Not everywhere has internet, for a start.

Antarcticant · 28/05/2022 00:01

shipping forecasts

Please let them never take the shipping forecast away.*

*I live almost as far inland as you can get, so I need all the sea reminders I can get.

Florenz · 28/05/2022 00:04

The BBC is irrelevant. It's time it was put to rest. As it is it's just managed decline.

Nat6999 · 28/05/2022 00:27

BBC4 gets used when the World Snooker Championships are on to show the other table while the two table set up is running. If they are axing two channels then our licence fee should be reduced.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/05/2022 00:30

Don't know much about BBC4, but I did see that they're planning on chopping CBBC.
With two kids myself, I find this concerning - CBBC was invaluable during lockdown with Bitesize lessons for example.

yesthatisdrizzle · 28/05/2022 00:58

grumpygiraffe · 27/05/2022 08:51

I trust none of you whingeing here vote Conservative.

No I bloody didn't. Worst of it is, a lot of fuckwits round here did - guess the name of my MP?

Useless sodding waste of fucking space she is.

Sortilege · 28/05/2022 01:09

It’s a ridiculous decision. 90% of BBC tv worth watching now goes out on 4.

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