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AMA- I’m an Irish dancer!

81 replies

Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 11:02

I’ve seen other people doing this sort of thread so thought I’d give it a go in case anyone was interested or had any questions about Irish dancing or dancing in general!😁

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Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:11

Readtheroom · 26/05/2022 13:40

Why did you choose to be an irish dancer out of anything else

I fell in love with Riverdance and also have Irish family😄

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Lotsofsocks · 26/05/2022 17:11

My inlaws run a big Irish dancing school - if I say mother and daughter have both won the Worlds 3 times, whole family either in Riverdance or Lord of the Dance you may know them!

Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:12

pussycatlickinglollyices · 26/05/2022 13:45

Are you Michael Flatley?

Definitely not, or I’d have had a lot more success at competitions 😂

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Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:12

SpeckledlyHen · 26/05/2022 14:16

Are you the individual that was randomly irish dancing and flinging their legs in the air in the Hogan Stand Pub in San Pedro a few years back.

No but I definitely want to see a video of this 😂

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Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:13

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 26/05/2022 14:19

This AMA seems to be lots of questions but zero answers.....

I had to go to work at the last minute. Answering now!

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Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:15

Rockbird · 26/05/2022 14:41

Ooh. I've got a 10yo Irish dancer and a 14yo who has just quit but regretting it!

DD1 did a few feiseanna but refused to wear the wig and make up and got a bit disillusioned with it as a consequence. DD2 is desperate to go to a feis and wants the whole shebang but I have to confess I'm not keen.

There’s definitely been a shift in attitude recently and more people are going for the more natural dress, hair and no make up look! I think the rise in living costs will actually impact it too as otherwise a lot of people will be priced out of Irish dance so it’ll be interesting to see if more people adopt the natural look.

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Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:17

darisdet · 26/05/2022 14:59

Are the wigs compulsory? I thought not for some reason.

I shall wait patiently now...

No they’re definitely not compulsory at competitions but specific schools might not allow dancers to dance for them at competitions without wigs. Some
people go without wigs but it does take confidence to do that especially as 99% of the other competitors will be wearing them

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Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:18

Ownedbymycats · 26/05/2022 15:35

The accompanying music is beautiful, well worth going to a fleadh just to hear the music.Watching the girls glue their socks to their legs before going on stage was a bit of a shock.

Haha yeah sock glue. Half the fake tan comes off with it so your legs usually look very patchy the next day!

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LadyEloise1 · 26/05/2022 17:23

I think it's appalling what "they" have done to Irish dancing.
Appalling and ridiculous.
I hate the fake tan, wigs, make up and costumes that are prohibitively expensive on children. Absolutely no reason for it.
I wish someone at the top in Irish dancing circles would shout stop to the whole thing.
Just ghastly.
I'm sad they've done this to Irish dancing.
I'd love to know how this ridiculous malarkey came into the activity.

XelaM · 26/05/2022 17:28

What do you use to glue the wig down?

ermagerdabear · 26/05/2022 17:29

LadyEloise1 · 26/05/2022 17:23

I think it's appalling what "they" have done to Irish dancing.
Appalling and ridiculous.
I hate the fake tan, wigs, make up and costumes that are prohibitively expensive on children. Absolutely no reason for it.
I wish someone at the top in Irish dancing circles would shout stop to the whole thing.
Just ghastly.
I'm sad they've done this to Irish dancing.
I'd love to know how this ridiculous malarkey came into the activity.

I agree. I used to do it in the late 80's and 90's. We had to have the hair in ringlets and the dress for competitions, which was ridiculously expensive even back then as it was hand embroidered, but that was it.

The fake tan, wigs and make up these days is just awful.

Spitescreen · 26/05/2022 18:42

Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 17:17

No they’re definitely not compulsory at competitions but specific schools might not allow dancers to dance for them at competitions without wigs. Some
people go without wigs but it does take confidence to do that especially as 99% of the other competitors will be wearing them

Surely it doesn’t take much courage not to look utterly ridiculous and frankly tacky? I get that very young girls might be dazzled by the Barbara Cartland makeup, drag-queen-meets-poodle wigs and glittery frocks, but surely teenagers upward can see that they’re making themselves ridiculous at vast expense and that you could dance just as well make-up free, in your own hair, your own skin tone and in any dress that let you move freely?

And I don’t for a second buy that ‘make up stops you looking washed out under stage lights, and the bouncy wigs accentuate your high steps’. The World Irish Dance Association stipulate that dancers under 12 must wear white polo shirts and dark green skirts or black trousers, aren’t allowed to wear make up, big wigs or fake tan — how come they’re clearly perfectly able to compete while not looking like child beauty pageant contestants?

willstarttomorrow · 26/05/2022 18:56

When I was at uni back in the mid to late 90s, my friend in the room next door was either a national champion or top 3 in Ireland. There was lots of loud foot banging and she was fit as fuck. Anyhow, this was peak Riverdance mania and she had been invited to join Riverdance and had lots of friends who had. Friend had recently lost mum and decided to come to England to train as a nurse (massive recruitment in Ireland from our nursing school then- nursing had just becomes university level training and we were a little outpost affiliated to a proper uni). She confirmed Michael Flatley is apparently as much a a slease and egotist as he appears. She met up with her friends frequently and remained very much part of the Irish dancing world so had no reason to disbelieve her.

Thekormachameleon · 26/05/2022 19:04

Michael flatley is a huge sleaze. Absolutely vile. I was also an Irish dancer, and a very successful one at that

Buttons294749 · 26/05/2022 19:06

Bunnycat101 · 26/05/2022 17:11

How many people make a living from it through river dance type productions? Can you be a professional Irish dancer or do the people on the stage do it on the side or for a couple of months at a time?

I was actually in one of these type shows when i danced professionally (not riverdance, a smaller one but it still toured a lot of places) the pay was similar to most other dance contracts so just 6 months or whatever long job then onto the next thing. Some people did multiple years.

Dancing in general is not well paid tho!

Onemoretime0123 · 26/05/2022 19:14

Spitescreen · 26/05/2022 18:42

Surely it doesn’t take much courage not to look utterly ridiculous and frankly tacky? I get that very young girls might be dazzled by the Barbara Cartland makeup, drag-queen-meets-poodle wigs and glittery frocks, but surely teenagers upward can see that they’re making themselves ridiculous at vast expense and that you could dance just as well make-up free, in your own hair, your own skin tone and in any dress that let you move freely?

And I don’t for a second buy that ‘make up stops you looking washed out under stage lights, and the bouncy wigs accentuate your high steps’. The World Irish Dance Association stipulate that dancers under 12 must wear white polo shirts and dark green skirts or black trousers, aren’t allowed to wear make up, big wigs or fake tan — how come they’re clearly perfectly able to compete while not looking like child beauty pageant contestants?

I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just explaining why people do it as people asked!

Personally I think extreme make up, wigs and tan should be banned for all children competing and it should just be about the dancing, although as a teen who was self conscious about my skin and wore make up with my friends and to school it would have felt strange not being allowed to wear make up at a dance competition and I definitely would have felt self conscious. I think it should be somewhere in the middle- makeup should be allowed but it should be natural. Although there will always be a group of parents who take it too far and put their children out in heavy make up so it would be easier just to ban it altogether

wigs definitely do give a bouncier appearance when jumping and doing leaps. Again, I’m not saying whether I agree with it or not, but that’s the reasoning behind the curls.

the fake tan helps for big big competitions eg worlds where you are competing on massive stages and the lights are very bright and can wash you out- besides, gymnastics, skaters and other types of dancers wear tan for this reason so I don’t see why Irish dancing would be different. I do think it should be banned for children though and for them it should just be about the dancing

the world Irish dancing association is a much, much smaller organisation and generally their feises are much smaller and not on as big stages as other organisations feises. It’s not a dig at them, but with WIDA a lot of their feises are a smaller event overall compared to other organisations where the major events are on massive stages with bright, bright lighting. WIDA have a big worlds but the rest of their regionals and nationals and other feises are a much smaller scale than the likes of CLRG

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darisdet · 26/05/2022 19:32

Glad you're not Michael!

Thanks for the replies.

The schools with the plain black dresses and sashes, and no wigs. Is that a different type of Irish dancing or just entry/beginner level?

maddiemookins16mum · 26/05/2022 19:32

I went to school with a girl who eventually became world champion. She’d be in her mid/late 50s now.

harrietm87 · 26/05/2022 19:40

What age did you start and how often did you go to classes?

Khalas · 26/05/2022 19:47

Was it easy to learn? Can you learn at any age do you think?

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 26/05/2022 19:53

Yes Michael Flatley is a total sleaze, I can't believe more has not come out about him. Proper snogging his young leading ladies back in the day, his hands are always where they shouldn't be, and I watched a more recent LOTD where he came on for the encore and he several of the female dancers a good old grope as he danced past them. He is vile.

And Lord of the Dance is so tacky and unnecessarily sexualised compared to Riverdance, which was always so much more classy and elegant.

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 26/05/2022 19:56

What do you think about cheating and favours within Irish dancing? There was a bit of a clanger in one of the younger age groups at this years CLRG World Championships wasn't there?

LadyEloise1 · 28/05/2022 09:45

Lynnthesearesexnotgenderpeople · 26/05/2022 19:56

What do you think about cheating and favours within Irish dancing? There was a bit of a clanger in one of the younger age groups at this years CLRG World Championships wasn't there?

I hadn't heard of this Sad

darisdet · 28/05/2022 13:37

Nor I! What happened there?

School favouritism, that sort of thing? You see that sometimes.

Muminabun · 28/05/2022 13:52

Hi op, what are the different types of Irish dancing and which do you like? I know there is a type where the dancers move their arms more and it’s not the straight up type of dance. I do look at the dancers and think that their knees hips and ankles must be banjaxed.