Teachers should have guns

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This was put forward (by a colleague) as a serious solution to prevent further tragedies in US.

I don't know how American teachers would feel, but I can't imagine any teachers wanting a gun in their desk.

However, AIBU to think that if this did happen, it would increase, not reduce tragedies, either students getting hold of a teacher's gun or a teacher themselves, in a MH crisis?

Sorry, 2000 and 2014 (so about 1 every 4-5 years).

Unfortunately gun controls will only be brought in when the children or grand children of people like Ted Cruz or Tucker Carlson are killed with guns.

President Reagan was very against stem cell research until he was diagnosed with dementia.

The NRA have a lot of money to spend on ensuring everyday people can buy assault weapons. However, they have a conference this week and guns are not permitted inside. Fine for you and yours to be shot to death but not them and theirs.

Thankfully, this is probably one of the few social trends where we don't follow the USA. Along with regressive abortion rights, hopefully. Great country, but so fucked up in lots of ways.

No way!

I would be horrified if a teacher had access to a gun in the classroom 😱

If it's not guns they use ,it would be something else. Maybe using a car to mow down people .

Imaging taking one of the big American cars to Vegas and then suddenly deciding to mount the kerb you would kill alot people people.

But nobody would be wanting the big cars banned

People will find a way.

• alot more people

My students would have been horrified if I'd had access to a gun in the classroom. And one or two would have been very nervous... 🤨

The people going into schools and shooting are human beings with mental health problems, if they dont have a gun theyre going to use anything they can think of to be a very harmful weapon

Just what America needs, more guns!

It is insane that they are all walking around with them. It is insane!

No they will use it to kill black students/pupils.

People will find a way.

This is a terrible argument against gun control. ‘People’ often aren’t that motivated - gun killings are often spontaneous decisions (let’s not even get into accidents). And whether planned or not, guns are both horribly efficient and tricky to safely remove from an attacker.

I once saw someone try to argue that people will kill with their bare hands if they really wanted to - let’s all try to remember how many mass stranglings we can remember.

Yes, if you think about how police have been called on black students in their schools for minor issues - or nothing at all - it’s hard to imagine how this is not a likely outcome.

@Agrudge

A child under 14 in the US is 20 times more likely to die from a gunshot wound than any comparable high income country (eg don't compare it to Guatamela or actively war torn states).

Why are military level and police level guns allowed to individuals in the States anyway? Proper hunters aren't going to be using repeaters or handguns. Why are gunshops allowed to sell to most anyone? why are the US police hindered in hunting down gun toting villains by the ease by which gun numbers are shaved off and rifling not a way to track bullets?

A teacher in a classroom is hardly going to be able to lock and load (unless they do it every day and the gun is just on the safety catch) against a random person, won't be able to get the head shot (though could go for the legs) and would unless doing weekly practice would likely miss and/or injure someone else.

Wandering off the point slightly - as a former pistol shooter - would as I got older and less accurate be rated on my ability as a gunman or the fact I was teaching well?

When I was teaching I knew one or two very unstable teachers. I don't think those guns would be actually used for protection!

If it wasnt such a serious subject, I'd be tempted to say it sounds like one of the lunatic Cunning Plans from Blackadder.

It is a completely ludicrous idea to give teachers guns. It doesnt even need discussion.

The way to stop people shooting each is to take guns away. Not add more guns.

Fucking no-one should have a gun!

Thank goodness we live in the UK.

This!
It's absolutely insane.
Let's remedy by adding MORE guns!!
WTF.

Shootings are much more common statistically in High Schools than elementary schools. Most high schools have a permanent police officer now who is stationed at the school. Also a lot of churches now have armed security people as church shootings have risen. Very sad.

Workers’ rights are another area of divergence. The way low-skilled workers are abused in the US is disgusting. No paid vacation, wages that it’d be generous to describe as ‘poverty wages’, zero paid maternity leave, etc.

And of course healthcare, for-profit prisons and the rest of it.

Lots of wonderful individuals, and absolutely abysmal society.

an* absolutely abysmal society.

American teachers are not funded adequately enough to be provided with pencils, paper etc for the classroom.

I doubt they can afford guns

the first step is to ban all sales of automatic and semi-automatic weapons (well actually the first step is to change the constitution, but does the constitution state what type of arms? That is surely a point to be argued).

Train teachers to use taser, safer than a gun, outlaw gun use.

Train teachers to use taser, safer than a gun, outlaw gun use.

Ex supply teacher here.

Some schools I have worked in the kids would have a gun of a teacher in no time.

Switzerland is interesting, almost 100% of the make population has a gun, I think they have had one school shooting.

Guns are like a religion to some in the US, laws are regularly challenged and repealed on things like not allowing people who are mentally ill to buy guns, giving children guns for birthdays some even have guns blessed in church.

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