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To think this government

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ivykaty44 · 25/05/2022 15:42

have just set out ways for their rich friends and themselves to become richer, any policies that would interfere with that process are binned and now that they have these policies in place they can sit back and not worry about the poor middle class losing their disposable income.

30 more billionaires have been made in the last 2 years, so whilst the country is supposedly struggling how and what are people becoming richer? the divide is growing bigger between rich and poor and the middle class are going to have a shock when earning £50k a year is not enough to pay the bills, having to go to a one car family instead of two and watch every penny they spend.

am I being unreasonable to think this was the plan, stuff the man int he street and only look after the ultra wealthy

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EatSleepReplete · 25/05/2022 23:11

If it comes to that, the UK only just finished paying off the debt it incurred in 1837 when it abolished slavery throughout the Empire. But I don’t think that even the Tories could reasonably claim that they were responsible for finally paying that debt off.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_Compensation_Act_1837

TBH I think they’re playing a dangerous game & I’m worried about riots this summer. Boris and his cronies need to step down before someone pulls them down. The absolute lack of dignity is appalling.

Fairisleflora · 25/05/2022 23:14

Whenever I hear JRM telling people to get back into the workplace I wonder how much money he has invested in commercial property.

Whenever I see that Russian member of the House of Lords I wonder what they have on Boris.

whenever I hear about Covid contracts I wonder what the total financial waste by this government is and what we could spend that on.

whenever I hear about Brexit I wonder how much money the chlorinated chicken producers bribed him with to ensure we left the single market.

all this before we get onto thinking about parties while people’s loved ones died alone.

I have voted Tory probably more times than any other party. I will never - ever - do so again. There are a handful of decent Tory MPs but the majority - and the vast majority of the cabinet - don’t do a single thing to help this country. They just work out how they can gouge the most of our public money out of the UK and into the hands of them and their friends. What vile, cretinous creatures these people truly are! I am furious. I loathe them with a passion that is visceral. The Tory MPs that have not submitted their letters to the 1922 committee have no idea how much the public that used to vote for them now utterly loathe them. They’ll find out soon enough.

ItisallPooh · 25/05/2022 23:28

My MP is a Tory. I did not vote for him. I regularly send him emails telling him my thoughts on the PM or the government's handling of things or ask him questions. I might as well have asked my budgie. The useless git just repeats what he has been told to say by another Tory. He only cares about his career and not his constituents.
They are an absolute disgrace.

EatSleepReplete · 25/05/2022 23:29

Absolutely agree @Fairisleflora . I hope the nation wake up when they realise that many more families will have to choose between food & fuel this winter, how many businesses & towns are sinking, & how crime rates etc are inevitably going to rise. And how the rich Tories (& many others) still DGAF because so much of the population are just “other” to them.

ItisallPooh · 25/05/2022 23:35

@Fairisleflora I think even some of the Tories that have been in power previously don't like the way Boris and his cronies are handling everything.
They are damaging the credibility of the office. It will take a long time for the general public to trust them ever again.
Some Tory MPs must be good people who have gone into politics to help people. They surely can't all be egotistical maniac who are only in it for themselves?!?

ivykaty44 · 26/05/2022 06:40

there are now more food banks than there are McDonald’s in the country

with more and more people being pushed into poverty whilst they work full time and some in professional jobs

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OverByYer · 26/05/2022 06:47

Absolutely agree OP. The Tories ( ie posh white public schoolboys) under Boris have only looked after themselves and their own.
Say what you like about Thatcher , this would not have happened under her watch.
Johnson has turned me from a floating voter to completely against the Tories. I absolutely loathe him and his fan boys.

OverByYer · 26/05/2022 06:49

Fairisleflora · 25/05/2022 23:14

Whenever I hear JRM telling people to get back into the workplace I wonder how much money he has invested in commercial property.

Whenever I see that Russian member of the House of Lords I wonder what they have on Boris.

whenever I hear about Covid contracts I wonder what the total financial waste by this government is and what we could spend that on.

whenever I hear about Brexit I wonder how much money the chlorinated chicken producers bribed him with to ensure we left the single market.

all this before we get onto thinking about parties while people’s loved ones died alone.

I have voted Tory probably more times than any other party. I will never - ever - do so again. There are a handful of decent Tory MPs but the majority - and the vast majority of the cabinet - don’t do a single thing to help this country. They just work out how they can gouge the most of our public money out of the UK and into the hands of them and their friends. What vile, cretinous creatures these people truly are! I am furious. I loathe them with a passion that is visceral. The Tory MPs that have not submitted their letters to the 1922 committee have no idea how much the public that used to vote for them now utterly loathe them. They’ll find out soon enough.

Agree with this 100 %

UnaOfStormhold · 26/05/2022 06:56

It says a lot about the conservative party that they are so bereft of talent that htey can't seem to come up with a leadership candidate better than Johnson. Talk about being unable to climb over the lowest possible bar...

Peregrina · 26/05/2022 06:58

The next general election isn't any later than 24th Jan 2025

At least we are in luck there - the next election has to be on or before May 2024.

Say what you like about Thatcher , this would not have happened under her watch.
No, nor under May.

Blurp · 26/05/2022 07:02

Georgeskitchen · 25/05/2022 17:28

What makes you think Labour would do any different. Don't forget we are still paying off billions in debt that the previous Labour government left

As others have said, the national debt was no worse under Labour. And at least with Labour the country has something to show for it - improved public services, more money for schools, hospitals etc, and less of a divide between rich and poor. Under the Tories the money goes straight into the pockets of the rich.

ProclivityForPyrotechnics · 26/05/2022 07:03

The saddest thing about the cost of living and this wank stain of a government is the pathetically poor staff retainment in the NHS.

It's impossible to keep staff when they get shat on by management, patients aren't happy because sends short staffed so levels of complaints are at their highest (don't blame them but it doesn't make for a nice working environment)

Our amazing HCAs when they reach the top of band 2 which they are in theatres where I work, means they top out at £19,1800 a year and there is no scope for any more. At all. I've got staff leaving to work in Aldi or for call centres because they can get more and right now every penny matters.

I'm at a loss, we can't recruit because the pay is so shit so when they leave we probably won't replace them for months if ever and the service will get worst.

They deserve so much more, they do so much it's unbelievable really. There a viral part
Of the nhs and deserve some recognition

Ledkr · 26/05/2022 07:06

Loads of them are rich beyond belief already. Why then would they want low paid (to them) stressful time consuming jobs? 🙄

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BridgeTooFar · 26/05/2022 07:24

For the love of Christ, will you all please stop voting for these clowns? We don't get to decide on the government because in Northern Ireland we have our own special brand of fuckwits, yet we too are suffering because of Tory greed and mismanagement. It's very frustrating watching from the sidelines while the rest of the UK gives us endless shit Tory governments. Devolved government or not, we are ruled by Westminster.

ivykaty44 · 26/05/2022 07:24

What you have described there is government full stop, no matter what colour.

show where the corruption and lies were at the level it is with other past governments. Even past Tory government haven’t surpassed this shit show and thatcher would turn in her grave. Ken Clark was effectively expelled by this shower of incompetence

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letsnotdothat · 26/05/2022 07:30

They have always been the party of the rich and that they shall forever remain. That’s why the WC Tory voters at the last election were turkeys voting for Christmas. They obviously thought Boris was one of their pals because he’s a ‘bit funny sometimes’ Hmm.

Tanith · 26/05/2022 07:58

“What makes you think Labour would do any different.”

Experience. When Labour came in, they invested in Early Years and childcare, among other things. They didn’t obscenely line their donors’ pockets.

There were over 100,000 childminders when I started in 2002. Today, there are less than 40,000 and still falling.
There were plenty of nursery places, Childrens’ Centres, Surestart…

Today, nurseries can’t recruit staff. They are closing, offering limited places, alternate weeks and withdrawing promised places.

Now, either the current Government is spectacularly inept, they just don’t care, or they’re deliberately trying to stop women from working - a sort of Gilead by the back door, if you like.

Which is it, I wonder?

Rupertpenrysmistress · 26/05/2022 07:59

letsnotdothat · 26/05/2022 07:30

They have always been the party of the rich and that they shall forever remain. That’s why the WC Tory voters at the last election were turkeys voting for Christmas. They obviously thought Boris was one of their pals because he’s a ‘bit funny sometimes’ Hmm.

Exactly this. People knew what a useless, self serving person he was, we all saw the warning signs, we watched him as the mayor of London and how many jobs has he been sacked from? Why did anyone think he was fit for purpose.

As an NHS nurse of 20 + years I have worked under both governments and I know which I prefer. I am genuinely frightened by what is see on a daily basis.
The Tories are all about what they can milk out of people. I don't know how they sleep at night, families having to make decisions about food and heat, it breaks my heart. And as for the parties whilst people died alone. It's criminal and I cannot believe something cannot be done. Of course his party won't get rid of him, they will milk it to the bitter end. Scum.
Also please stop saying what about labour, we don't know, but it would never have been this bad. I am ashamed of my country.

Blurp · 26/05/2022 08:55

Ledkr · 26/05/2022 07:06

Loads of them are rich beyond belief already. Why then would they want low paid (to them) stressful time consuming jobs? 🙄

Because it gives them power - they can award contracts worth millions to their mates, they can change the tax laws to save themselves millions, they can line their own pockets and those of their rich friends, and make sure the odds are stacked in their favour in future as well.

I also don't imagine the likes of Johnston is too stressed at work... that would require him to care about doing a good job.

Calafsidentity · 26/05/2022 09:44

Totally agree op. I think there is something even more serious going on. Johnson has deliberately set out to disrupt, distract and destroy; which is so much easier than creating, building and maintaining, all of which take serious planning and application.

The level of corruption involving the chumocracy is completely unacceptable; it started with dodgily funded wallpaper and holidays, illegal proroguing parliament, continued with Paterson and Jenrick, and has now resulted in Partygate and blatant lies from the despatch box. Now they are talking about scrapping the Northern Ireland protocol, despite Johnson renegotiating it and signing up to it himself! So laws are suddenly not worth the paper they are written on?

Once it gets to the stage where the PM lies blatantly in the HoC and gets away with it, surely that has a serious impact on democracy? People need correct information in order to vote fhs.

To quote an article in the Independent:

"Robert Barrington, Professor of Anti-Corruption Practice at the Centre for the Study of Corruption in the University of Sussex said: "There is more corruption and corruption risk in and around this government than any UK government since the Second World War."

"The PM has direct influence on this through personal example and through what he allows amongst his Ministers and No. 10 staff.

"There has been an absolute failure of integrity at No 10 which has consequences for democracy and Britain's global influence - and longer term, if unchecked, for the economy and national security."

There also appears to be a stitch up between the government and the right wing press that allows Johnson to get away with it, again and again. There is an Orwellian silence over the negative effects of Brexit.

The entire situation is embarrassing, sordid, unjust, and downright dangerous. And MPs are standing by and doing what exactly?

OversBo · 26/05/2022 09:55

This sums up how I feel about the government pretty much.
vm.tiktok.com/ZMLEmctBX/?k=1
Really love the sarcasm!

I’ve voted for all the main parties over my lifetime but I would NEVER vote Tory again. Johnson is not a bumbling fool - he knows exactly what he’s doing for his super wealthy paymasters. I have also never been to a political rally before but I’m totally up for it now. It’s a shitshow.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 26/05/2022 10:12

Georgeskitchen · 25/05/2022 17:28

What makes you think Labour would do any different. Don't forget we are still paying off billions in debt that the previous Labour government left

This is such utter bollocks.

Calafsidentity · 26/05/2022 10:20

And call me cynical but I can't help thinking that there was something dodgy about the timing of the Metropolitan Police's investigation delaying the publication of Sue Gray's report. Surely that was just too convenient?

ivykaty44 · 26/05/2022 19:44

August 17th in my area is predicated that the ambulance service will grind to a halt completely

recently people are dying waiting for ambulances, so needless deaths, there are 20 hrs waits whilst ambulances are blocked at A&E

The news today that everyone will get £400 towards utilities, but not until the autumn when it rises by another £1000 a year...

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