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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think my friend is being weirdly pushy in this situation?

31 replies

seaparrot · 22/05/2022 20:05

I'm getting married soon. I planned to have two bridesmaids (a friend I've known since we were in primary school and my old uni housemate, who's also very close) but I felt pressured into choosing a third friend when she told me outright she'd feel hurt and offended if I didn't ask her. Yes, I know this was a stupid move on my part. She'd have got over it. Unfortunately I'm useless at handling confrontation unless I know it's coming and I can plan what to say. I'll call this friend Lucy.

None of these three know each other, but Lucy has already decided she doesn't like my uni friend because of anecdotes I've shared. (Nothing bad, just little snippets like the fact uni friend is vegan, teaches yoga, used to be assistant to an MP in a party that Lucy doesn't support, etc.) Lucy told me that she was sure they wouldn't get on, and it's a "big ask" for me to choose them both as bridesmaids, but she was going to "be civil for my sake". (OK...just writing this I can see that I'm definitely not being unreasonable with this bit!)

I've had to push back against Lucy on a few things, such as when she invited one of her own friends without checking with me (someone I've only met once!). I told her she couldn't do that. She uninvited the extra guest but has told me a couple of times that I was "oversensitive" about it. Yesterday she was here for dinner, and it was the final straw - she started talking about my childhood friend, someone who lives on the other side of the globe in New Zealand, as though she's a personal friend of hers. It was, "I love her so much. She's such an amazing person. I can't wait," until I rather bemusedly pointed out the obvious - they've never met. She went silent for a bit and changed the subject. This made me worry that she's decided to latch onto childhood friend out of her irrational dislike for uni friend, either as a way to avoid her or to freeze her out or something. I don't know.

I'm thinking about either telling her I don't want her to be a bridesmaid (nuclear option and I think it would be a bit harsh considering I didn't put my foot down at the beginning) or organising the whole thing so that Lucy has very little to do other than stand there in the photos and I don't have to worry how she's going to behave with the other bridesmaids. I feel like she's muscling in and trying to take over. AIBU? My fiance thinks I might have interpreted the dinner conversation yesterday and maybe she's just looking forward to meeting someone she knows is important to me, but is it really normal to start announcing you "love" people you've never even spoken to?!

OP posts:
Finalcountdowntoourtripaway · 22/05/2022 20:08

Do you have any inkling she may turn up in her own selected dress in white op? She sounds unhinged...
Can you have to financially scale back your day and have to make some cuts? 3 bm 's will have to become the original 2...

Lilililili · 22/05/2022 20:09

She does sound very inappropriate. If in your heart you feel you don't want her as bridesmaid, tell her that. It's YOUR wedding and you don't get the day back. It's more important to please yourself than her- any good friend would just want you to be happy on your day, not make it about themselves.

Fritilleries · 22/05/2022 20:09

Welcome to wedding hell. It gets worse from here unless you stand your ground. Put it this way: do you want her as a permanent record in your wedding photos?

Rekorderlig88 · 22/05/2022 20:09

Easy for me to say but this is your wedding.
She isn't a friend behaving like this at all.
You need to maybe say her baviour has led you to no choice but to unbriedsmaid her
Easy for me to say

autienotnaughty · 22/05/2022 20:13

The early stuff is very unreasonable. It's hard to say with the dinner conversation she might just be excited to meet her and genuinely feel like they have lots in common. I would give her limited responsibility/involvement. And just keep an eye on things. It's so crisp having to worry about petty stuff when your planning your wedding.

WibblyWobblyJane · 22/05/2022 20:13

It’s a big ask for you to have chosen your friend as a bridesmaid?! And she muscled her way in? She sounds completely lacking in boundaries!

Ladeeda23 · 22/05/2022 20:14

You never know she may have been talking to your new Zealand friend in a secret bridesmaid group (so they can plan lovely hen do things for you) that you're not aware of and might be getting on really well..

In terms of the vegan friend perhaps she has perceived some negativity about her and she's just trying to have your back in a weird round about way? We'd have to know what the anecdotes were..

Ultimately you shouldn't of asked her to be bridesmaid if you didn't want to. Perhaps these things are bothering you because you don't really want her to be one. I kinda think breaking off the bridesmaid role is a little cruel and embarrassing for her and will massively effect the friendship. If be mortified if someone did this to me. It's your big day. Put your foot down and risk the friendship or suck it up I'm afraid

BerkyWithTheGoodHair · 22/05/2022 20:19

Find a way to get her off bridesmaiding duties, this has disaster written all over it.
I've a strong suspicion that your friendship with Lucy will fail in the long run anyway, so don't pussyfoot too much.

YarnHoarder · 22/05/2022 20:20

I don't think I'd want someone who's only staying civil (not even friendly or welcoming to someone you've never met who's also a BM) as a BM with that other person. Do you think alcohol consumption might change this stance? She's also definitely crossing some boundaries IMO, I don't think it's normal to be that familiar to someone you've never communicated with nevermind met.

If you don't actually want her as your BM I'd try and find a reason (financial as above might work) to let her down gently but firmly. It's your wedding, it should be what you want even if it's not to everyone else's preference or tastes.

For me what you do next depends on if you want her to continue as BM and how much trust you have that she won't be overbearing towards one BM and rude and cold towards the other, especially after a few drinks.

TheCatterall · 22/05/2022 20:30

Lucy is not a friend.

lucy is scarily certifiable and/or the ultimate CF.

why would you want any involvement with someone that bullies you into being involved in your wedding.

she’s going to make the day about her.
she’s going to become worse the closer you get to it.
it’s going to be allllllll about her.
she’s going to make your actual friends (and the people you actually asked to
be bridesmaids!!) a living hell and ruin the experience for them.

why.

just why are you keeping this woman in your life.

how balanced is the rest of your friendship?

you can dump mates - you know that right?

if one of your friends or relatives were dating a Lucy - what would your advice be?

im hoping it’s - ‘run for the hills’.

Rogue1001MNer · 22/05/2022 20:30

How long until the wedding?

Pandarinio · 22/05/2022 20:40

It sounds to me like they might have been chatting online? Maybe to plan stuff?

Bunty55 · 22/05/2022 20:42

It is your wedding and not hers. She is not your friend. Full stop.

seaparrot · 22/05/2022 21:14

Pandarinio · 22/05/2022 20:40

It sounds to me like they might have been chatting online? Maybe to plan stuff?

It's possible but unlikely. My childhood friend in NZ has always hated Facebook etc. and she doesn't have a social media presence any more. When we talk it's always on WhatsApp. I'm not sure the other two even know her surname. I'll ask her if she's in touch with them.

To people who are wondering why I put up with Lucy, she's been a good friend at other times in my life. I'd always known she could be tactless and a bit abrasive, but I've never been on the receiving end of this kind of behaviour before. I think that was partly why I froze when she announced she'd be hurt and offended if I didn't have her as BM - I wasn't expecting it. Thinking about it, I suspect she views me as a closer friend than I view her and she was hurt when she realised she might not be my top choice for BM. Jealousy would explain the weird dislike she's taken to my uni friend, and maybe even the way she seems determined to be BFFs with NZ friend.

I think I'll tell my other two BMs how I ended up with a third and get their advice on how to handle it. My instinct is to keep her as BM but make sure the role is low-key and all actual responsibility stays with NZ friend. As it's an informal wedding anyway, it shouldn't be too hard to do that. It might not be traditional but I'm also planning to seat them at different tables for dinner. I'm the only friend they have in common and it would make sense to put them with guests they already know, so hopefully that will defuse any problems.

OP posts:
Hawkins001 · 22/05/2022 21:24

All the best op

CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 22/05/2022 21:39

Lucy has given you the out you need if you no longer want her as your bridesmaid

"Lucy I've been thinking about what you said and I agree it's a big ask to have 2 people who don't like each other being my bridesmaids together. I appreciate you pointing this out and know you'll understand stepping down as I've known uni friend longer"

ButtockUp · 22/05/2022 21:52

@CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson has it.

I'd probably face Lucy and tell her that it's not going to work for the above reasons.
It's your wedding.
You decide.

She won't like it at all and will strop off.

You can then breathe easily in the knowledge that she won't be undermining you on your big day. Which she probably will do.

Blueberrywitch · 22/05/2022 21:56

Ladeeda23 · 22/05/2022 20:14

You never know she may have been talking to your new Zealand friend in a secret bridesmaid group (so they can plan lovely hen do things for you) that you're not aware of and might be getting on really well..

In terms of the vegan friend perhaps she has perceived some negativity about her and she's just trying to have your back in a weird round about way? We'd have to know what the anecdotes were..

Ultimately you shouldn't of asked her to be bridesmaid if you didn't want to. Perhaps these things are bothering you because you don't really want her to be one. I kinda think breaking off the bridesmaid role is a little cruel and embarrassing for her and will massively effect the friendship. If be mortified if someone did this to me. It's your big day. Put your foot down and risk the friendship or suck it up I'm afraid

Agree with this!

Howabsolutelyfanfuckingtastic · 22/05/2022 21:59

Omg please just tell Lucy that you have thought long and hard and decided you are only having the 2 bridesmaids now......not her. Be as nice as possible about it but stand firm. You only get married once (hopefully) so don't go along with or agree to anything that you don't want to do. It's your day! Don't let Lucy spoil it or you'll regret not sorting it out beforehand.

Blueberrywitch · 22/05/2022 21:59

I feel like people are making some pretty big assumptions about how evil Lucy is! She might just be over enthusiastic. I think it’s a bit mean to tell the other BMs that she’s essentially a sham bridesmaid. Either have her as a bridesmaid fully with an open heart and maybe some sensible precautions, or fire her. Don’t do a weird gossip behind her back to the others.

SunshineAndFizz · 22/05/2022 21:59

Ditch her. Trust me.

Within 3 years, likely less, you'll no longer be friends with this person and wish she hadn't been your bridesmaid.

Beelezebub · 22/05/2022 22:02

I’d think very seriously if you want a strop from Lucy now or on the day and then have a conversation accordingly…..

MustardCress · 22/05/2022 22:02

I can see why you wouldn’t want to risk upsetting her given that she is already behaving really weirdly, but really I think you need to lose Lucy as a friend. Is she worth it when she will emotionally blackmail you and behave in such a bizarre manner? I just couldn’t trust her.

Hope you have a lovely wedding whatever happens though

ThreeLittleDots · 22/05/2022 22:08

You made your bed now you have to lie in it I'm afraid. At an informal wedding it doesn't really matter who your bridesmaids are, does it? Storm in a tea cup and you don't seem to like Lucy very much. I think you'll have to suck it up. Please don't talk about Lucy to the other two bridesmaids - this will only make them feel awkward. I don't think you'll come out of this looking good if you do anything other than be gracious to them all.

It's also entirely conceivable that they are all in touch - your husband could have given them all each others' details.

dropthevipers · 22/05/2022 22:37

You need to wonder about how to get rid of the invisible neon sign over your head saying "Nutter Lover". She sounds completely fucking Dagenham. Disinvite asap.