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AIBU to ask if anyone can solve this Maths question?

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Hydrangea444 · 21/05/2022 21:08

DD is doing Further Maths A-Level and is stuck on this question.

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Piglet89 · 21/05/2022 22:19

THE LIMIT DOES NOT EXIST!

Familyfallout · 21/05/2022 22:27

She has now come back with this - hope it is useful

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littlefoot20 · 21/05/2022 22:27

@LovelyJubbly1234 oh my goodness, who are you 😂

furballfun · 21/05/2022 22:28

While @LovelyJubbly1234 has done all the hard work (which I couldn't remember!), I don't think the answer to part b is correct:

arcsin(1) = pi/2; arcsin(-1) = -pi/2, so the difference is pi, so the area under the curve is pi/k.

I've plotted the curve (well, google has!) and the area under it definitely isn't zero.

eastegg · 21/05/2022 22:28

SoupDragon · 21/05/2022 21:38

Do you think teachers are available on a Saturday?

Of course I don’t.

dootball · 21/05/2022 22:31

I see the previous posters solution. Surely a more sensible substitution is u = 2x^2-3x+1 then you notice that du/dx = 4x-3 and therefore you can replace the part at the front with du/dx to get du/dx ( root (8u) ) + arcsin(u) and off you go?

LovelyJubbly1234 · 21/05/2022 22:33

Yes answer is pi/16sqrt(2).

eastegg · 21/05/2022 22:38

Hydrangea444 · 21/05/2022 21:43

Oh why didn't I think of that! Oh hang on, it's Saturday night! I imagine her Maths teacher is enjoying his weekend.
Actually, Mumsnet has provided help with a fair few Maths questions she was stuck on in the past. Never underestimate the power of Mumsnet!

I’m not suggesting you ask her maths teacher on a Saturday night! You implied that the exam isn’t as soon as Monday, because you said the exams were up and coming, and you said she would ask her teacher on Monday if she hadn’t got the answer before. So all I was suggesting was cutting out the faff and asking the teacher on Monday. It’s not that ridiculous a suggestion is it? I don’t see what the rush is.

palmplantcirca1980s · 21/05/2022 22:40

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Hydrangea444 · 21/05/2022 22:45

@Familyfallout
Thank you so much! That's brilliant 😀

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listsandbudgets · 21/05/2022 22:48

Gulp.. my dd likes maths. Shes doing further maths for GCSE and casually said last night she might do further maths as a 5th A level for "fun" Confused

I have absolutely no idea what this question means let alone how to answer this. I will show it to DD in the morning and see what she says ( if anything)

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Eeornottoee · 21/05/2022 22:49

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Perhaps, but very kind of the poster to check with her son, wasn’t it?

orwellwasright · 21/05/2022 22:49

pi / (2 ^ (9 / 2 ) )

Apparently

SilverSilverStreet · 21/05/2022 22:50

I’ve only managed (b) so far - the algebra is catching me out. I’ve used product and chain rules, too.

I agree with LovelyJubbly1234 right to the last line in (b) - except

I think arcsin(1) - arcsin(-1) is pi, so the answer should be pi/k

(I’m unsure about the domain, which is why my answer looks different. But if there’s a single solution, yes it is pi/k

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iex · 21/05/2022 22:56

lemmein · 21/05/2022 22:03

That's what I was gonna say 🤓

Me too

palmplantcirca1980s · 21/05/2022 22:58

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BetterDaysareComming · 21/05/2022 23:00

I didn't even realize stuff like this existed Blush
I wish I could help but I'm afraid I wouldn't know where to start.

ZiggZagg · 21/05/2022 23:01

Well this thread has made me feel utterly thick 🤣 I can't believe my maths teacher begged me to do A Level 🙈 and I'm glad I didn't!

Whimz · 21/05/2022 23:04

Hi my DP is a maths teacher, he teaches further maths and pure maths at A level.

hope it helps :)

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EmilyBolton · 21/05/2022 23:05

Please please encourage your daughter todo as far as she can and then write something on question on why she is then stuck. Then submit to her TEACHER and ask for help.
I went through A level maths asking others when I got stuck. Ended up with a “u” grade. (This was80’s).
I then took a year out. Has a private tutor. No mates to ask as they’d all gone off to uni. So I had no choice than get as far as I could, get stuck. And ask my private tutor. She told me to do this…and within weeks had got inside my head and started to teach me how to get over my obstacles.
best lesson I ever learnt


  1. I resat with an A grade ( yep U to A)

  2. I learnt that if I didn’t understand something or couldn’t do something I needed to work with my teacher or tutor. Never missed a tutorial at uni. Not my mates or course participants

  3. It gave me a massive confidence boast in my ability to overcome difficulties


please please, do her the biggest favour and encourage her to use her teacher to specifically request help on the places she is stuck.

ColouringPencils · 21/05/2022 23:10

I haven't got a clue but I love this thread!

Bovrilly · 21/05/2022 23:11

I feel like a Y7 gazing at the Y13s in admiration

BluecheeseandBaskerville · 21/05/2022 23:13

@lemmein Damn it you beat me to it.

BluecheeseandBaskerville · 21/05/2022 23:15

I never really knew why someone would be a class clown but I feel a strong sense of inferiority right now that makes me want to say, “Hey you guys! I can burp the alphabet!”