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To ask if you are worried about monkeypox?

267 replies

WhenTheNightFalls · 20/05/2022 14:30

Can't help but feel a little anxious about it all. Aibu?

OP posts:
jammyrose · 23/05/2022 12:12

QuebecBagnet · 20/05/2022 14:37

I’m not worried. Though I’m aware that’s what people were saying in Feb 2020. 😂

This. 😅

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 12:22

I am not remotely panicking thekeating not even slightly, and I am certainly not excited about the prospect of catching such a disgusting disease with pus filled sores.

I am however noting that young children in nursery, pre school etc do tend to have very close contact for long periods of time, anyone watching their own children interact and have dealt with chicken pox making the rounds would confirm that. My teens sit draped all over each other, are always sharing clothes, make up, doing each other's hair and hugging.

So I don't think it is a small problem, and I am going to stand by that. Despite your protests. I am not remotely into 'drama' of any kind, but simply labelling people 'dramatic' for being concerned is pretty much what you did last time, and look where we all ended up!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/05/2022 12:27

Do you always describe features about children dying in pandemics as 'emotive nonsense', or only when they have died from Covid?

Only the parts which rely heavily on emotion and leave the facts to take second place - but then I suspect that you knew that, but that it didn't suit your apparent need to ramp up the narrative

IME many of us can still care deeply about children who've suffered and died, without the need for overblown rhetoric such as "The necropolis of covid has grown into a city of sorrow"

TheKeatingFive · 23/05/2022 12:28

but simply labelling people 'dramatic' for being concerned is pretty much what you did last time, and look where we all ended up!

Have you even one post to back this up or are you just talking total shit for the sake of it?

Despite your protests. I am not remotely into 'drama' of any kind

lol, you don't seem to even be able to read the quotes you're posting from experts properly

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 12:33

thekeating You seem to have immense trouble coping with views that are different from your own.

I am concerned, I have every right to be, in the same way you can be as indifferent as you like.

TheKeatingFive · 23/05/2022 12:37

You seem to have immense trouble coping with views that are different from your own.

Based on ....

What exactly?

I am concerned, I have every right to be

Well sure, you can be as concerned as you like. Knock yourself out. Perhaps just actually read what those in the know are saying before kicking off though, would be my advice.

Problemmo · 23/05/2022 12:38

Nope, not at all.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 12:40

Maybe I will share what I have been reading and researching:

"The time from infection to the onset of symptoms, which is referred to as the incubation period, can range from five to 21 days. The illness typically resolves within two to four weeks.

Severe cases are more common among people with underlying immune deficiencies and young children. In recent times, the case fatality ratioTrusted Source of monkeypox is around 3-6%."

Transmission of the monkeypox virus among humans can happen through close skin contact, air droplets, bodily fluids, and virus-contaminated objects

Reading the whole article I am not sure why anyone would be relaxed about this. No need to panic, but to pretend it is nothing at all to worry about might be indicative of your capacity to deal with yet more bad news, rather than the facts.

The incubation period particularly seems very long, and especially worrying, as you could be spreading the disease without realising it - as the rash has yet to appear.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-to-know-about-monkeypox-and-the-latest-cases#What-are-the-symptoms?

123ROLO · 23/05/2022 12:47

I am not worried, but I'm staying alert and aware to the news around it.

I don't believe it will spread to a magnitude of causing a public health crisis, but as there is a small risk that could happen I think it's a good idea to stay cautious - I think you can do this without being scared or worried.

SherbetDips · 23/05/2022 12:49

No I don’t care, the media loves stirring is up into a frenzy and I guess their missing coronavirus scaremongering so they are giving it a fresh go with monkey pox

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 12:51

I don't intend to remove my children from school, stock up on the loo roll 🙄or change anything at this moment, that is not to say I am not concerned about the possible impact this is going to have...I think it might be a short lived bumpy ride for some, and hopefully not too many of us.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 13:03

Jeremy Vine is running a Monkeypox special this afternoon just after the 1pm news, so if you are interested we can listen to Sally Jarvis shortly.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 13:03

Radio 2

Innocenta · 23/05/2022 13:11

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/05/2022 12:27

Do you always describe features about children dying in pandemics as 'emotive nonsense', or only when they have died from Covid?

Only the parts which rely heavily on emotion and leave the facts to take second place - but then I suspect that you knew that, but that it didn't suit your apparent need to ramp up the narrative

IME many of us can still care deeply about children who've suffered and died, without the need for overblown rhetoric such as "The necropolis of covid has grown into a city of sorrow"

I don't think there's any such thing as 'overblown rhetoric' when a child dies.

Funny how you only seem to feel it's overblown when the child has died of Covid. I bet that's a tremendous consolation to their parents and siblings.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 13:20

So those that most risk are pregnant women, under twelves and those that are vulnerable. So that is conclusive.

Isolation required for those that have contracted it, or are a household contact or sexual contact for 21days.

The incubation is up to 21 days and we are being reassured that at the moment, at least, numbers are small but expected to rise.

Belgium is going much further with their measures, I wonder if we should be doing the same as them? Last time we were too slow to react, and efficient contact tracing should be employed immediately.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 13:23

Actually now we are doing the same as Belgium. Is it enough, lets hope so.

Monkey pox does not come from monkeys but rodents, rats to be precise.

NotMyCircusNotMyCircus · 23/05/2022 13:32

I'm self employed in the events industry. The only thing that worries me is being told to take 21 days off work unpaid (could cost me £8k++ turnover in peak season) or the events industry being shut down again.

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 13:53

Yes not and many millions of us work in very close contact with people unavoidably. Lets hope it is just a smalll outbreak

Swayingpalmtrees · 23/05/2022 13:53

*small!

Teapot55 · 23/05/2022 14:19

No more than I worried about Covid which was for about 2 weeks.

Lucyccfc68 · 23/05/2022 14:24

It even on my radar. More chance of being run over by a bus.

LangClegsInSpace · 23/05/2022 14:29

Live WHO Q & A happening now

Worried675 · 24/05/2022 06:45

WhereYouLeftIt · 20/05/2022 15:48

Was reading about it this morning in the Times (sorry, can't do sharetokens) so no, not worried based on details given there.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/two-more-monkeypox-virus-cases-bring-uk-total-to-nine-2ct7qxrxr

This in particular:

"A key reason monkeypox has returned in Africa is because smallpox was eradicated. Anyone younger than middle-aged has not received the smallpox vaccine, and it now appears that makes them vulnerable to its cousin monkeypox."

Unlike Covid, this is not a new disease, and also unlike Covid there is already a long-established vaccine for it, the smallpox vaccine.

It also requires "prolonged skin-to-skin contact" whereas coronavirus was airborne and spread by coughing etc.

SO all told - no, not worried.

But isn't the unsaid thing right now that nobody knows why it is spreading like this. It shouldn't spread like this based on what we know about this virus, so something else is happening. Despite what all the people who scream "the media are scaremongers" will think, the media are often asked to keep s lid on things to PREVENT mass panic, and they often comply for quite a long time. The elephant in the room here is how on earth this monkeypox is spreading because its fatality rate is high in the under 12s. A pandemic that kills children would certainly cause mass panic in the way that COVID didn't.

One theory I read is that it's not sexually transmitted (i.e. sex involves close contact) but has just been spreading in that community for a while.

Maybebabyno2 · 24/05/2022 06:49

Only worried due to the fact that if I get it, I'm gonna be really badly scarred. There is no way I would not pick those spots! I would have to be sedated the whole time otherwise I would be getting the needles out and everything!

Scianel · 24/05/2022 06:50

They do know why its spreading. It's got within a demographic that has a lot of casual sex so it's able to spread far more readily than usual.