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Cheeky Fucker - Group Gift

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TulaOfDarkWater · 19/05/2022 18:06

Friendship group of six. One member has a birthday coming up & the other five people decided to get together & buy her a big ticket item.

Site A sells the item for £500 so £100 per person, everyone agreed & was happy with this.

Site B has a deluxe version for £700 so £140 per person, everyone agreed this was out of budget & unanimously decided to go with the £500 option from site A.

Just before the item could be purchased, a member of the group, let’s call her Anne, said she had a 20% off voucher for site B which was due to expire soon & it would be silly to waste it so how about we use it to buy the deluxe version & pay a little extra as birthday girl has had a shitty time of it lately etc.

In the group chat, we discussed:

£700 - 20% = £560

£560 / 5 = £112 per person

Anne thumbs up emoji liked this message!

Everyone agreed they could stretch to the £12 extra & it was decided that we would buy the deluxe item from Site B. The ONLY reason we agreed to this was due to the discount voucher, everyone was happy to purchase from site A otherwise.

Anne purchased the item using the voucher & sent everyone her bank details asking for £140. When this was queried, Anne said the 20% voucher represented her 1/5 contribution & so everyone else owes £140.

  1. Anne knows the reason the £700 option was vetoed in the first place was because everyone - including Anne - agreed £140 was out of budget
  1. At no time did Anne say the 20% voucher was her contribution & the rest of us had to pay full price. Another member of the group had the exact same voucher & we could have used hers if we had known
  1. There are text messages where the group discussed the maths & agreed to £12 extra each & Anne did not dispute this & in fact thumbs up emoji’d it. Her excuse for this is she didn’t read the messages properly, the thumbs up was a mistake / she didn’t do it deliberately / know it was there & she is bad at maths anyway so tuned out!

So am I being unreasonable to think Anne is a cheeky fucker & deliberately mislead us? If we had stuck to the original plan then Anne would have had to pay £100 but this way she pays nothing & the rest of us an extra £40!!

Just to be clear, this voucher was one of those promotional email ones that are sent to those on the company’s mailing list, it wasn’t a voucher that had any monetary value or was a gift to her which would be different & like I said, another member had the exact same voucher which she was happy for us to use instead if we had known this is what Anne was doing.

OP posts:
Veryverycalmnow · 21/05/2022 15:07

Thanks OP for sharing this with us. I can't believe Anne! So cheeky.

Lolllllllllllll · 21/05/2022 16:12

Bahhhhhumbug · 21/05/2022 14:26

I once went out with a friend on the train and l had a railcard that gave me a discount on my train ticket. She overheard me paying for my return ticket which was about £15 less than her full price one and suggested we split the train tickets cost 50/50 so we both benefitted from my railcard (that l had bought and paid for). I declined and she was most put out and when we arrived and went for our first coffee break she was still making comments about me paying as l paid less for my ticket. She then seemed spend the whole day determined to make a situation that l carried the cost of something that she didn't reciprocate to 'compensate' her for paying full fare. I didn't go out with her again.
Thing is with me if she'd not said anything l would've offered to get the first coffees and a cake or whatever as lm like that.. but once she had that attitude immediately that l should do that then she had no chance sorry.

That's a completely different situation than the OPs. You presumably PAID for the railcard. I presume your 'friend' wasn't offering to chip into paying for the railcard. 🤔

Newmumatlast · 21/05/2022 16:16

Send her the amount you all agreed - £112 each. She cannot make you pay the rest. If she wants, she can sue you and see how far she gets (not very). And if she wants to stop being friends with you all well it doesn't sound like a huge loss

NewPapaGuinea · 21/05/2022 16:27

Bahhhhhumbug · 21/05/2022 14:26

I once went out with a friend on the train and l had a railcard that gave me a discount on my train ticket. She overheard me paying for my return ticket which was about £15 less than her full price one and suggested we split the train tickets cost 50/50 so we both benefitted from my railcard (that l had bought and paid for). I declined and she was most put out and when we arrived and went for our first coffee break she was still making comments about me paying as l paid less for my ticket. She then seemed spend the whole day determined to make a situation that l carried the cost of something that she didn't reciprocate to 'compensate' her for paying full fare. I didn't go out with her again.
Thing is with me if she'd not said anything l would've offered to get the first coffees and a cake or whatever as lm like that.. but once she had that attitude immediately that l should do that then she had no chance sorry.

Don’t railcards also get up to 3 adults discounted rail fares?

Parpophone · 21/05/2022 16:29

Newmumatlast · 21/05/2022 16:16

Send her the amount you all agreed - £112 each. She cannot make you pay the rest. If she wants, she can sue you and see how far she gets (not very). And if she wants to stop being friends with you all well it doesn't sound like a huge loss

Or maybe just read the thread.

Roussette · 21/05/2022 16:46

Don’t railcards also get up to 3 adults discounted rail fares?

No.
Just the person who buys the railcard.

I wish!

AryaStarkWolf · 21/05/2022 16:55

@Bahhhhhumbug that's nothing like the situation in the OP though, firstly Anne didn't pay for the discount code, it was some free email thing that another of the friend group also had and secondly Anne sold the idea if using it to them as a way of them all paying less for the luxurious version and then moved the goalposts afterwards so she'd end up paying nothing at all

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 21/05/2022 17:05

Don’t railcards also get up to 3 adults discounted rail fares?

I presume it depends on the kind of railcard, but probably not if it's a student/young person's railcard.

Many years ago, my parents had a family railcard which could only be used by up to two adults and at least one child - the adult(s) saved one third off their fare and the children cost £1 each. On several occasions, when one of them needed to go somewhere on their own on the train, they would take one of us kids with them, just because that made the whole fare significantly cheaper than a standard adult fare!

Roussette · 21/05/2022 17:52

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 21/05/2022 17:05

Don’t railcards also get up to 3 adults discounted rail fares?

I presume it depends on the kind of railcard, but probably not if it's a student/young person's railcard.

Many years ago, my parents had a family railcard which could only be used by up to two adults and at least one child - the adult(s) saved one third off their fare and the children cost £1 each. On several occasions, when one of them needed to go somewhere on their own on the train, they would take one of us kids with them, just because that made the whole fare significantly cheaper than a standard adult fare!

Ahhh mine's an old person's railcard, just me!

nettie434 · 21/05/2022 18:02

In your case, you did nothing wrong in the slightest. Your friend was the CF. There was nothing stopping her from making the commitment in buying her own railcard and enjoying an identical offer (assuming she qualified - and if she didn't for any reason - not a student, over the age cut-off or whatever - the discount was obviously never intended for or offered to her).

Railcards aren't free. The whole point of buying one is that you hope to use it enough to cover the initial cost. That's why it was fine not to split the cost of the tickets. The only time it would be fair would be if you had a Network Railcard which allows you to buy additional discounted tickets for adults and children travelling with you.

nettie434 · 21/05/2022 18:07

Oh 😳😳😳 How did I miss the post about Family Railcards? Same situation anyway. However, it does seem from the OP's post that she just had an individual railcard.

Iloveringos · 21/05/2022 20:03

Shinyandnew1 · 19/05/2022 18:20

Who are the 2% on here who have voted you are unreasonable?!

Anne-is that you???

🤣🤣🤣

whynotwhatknot · 21/05/2022 20:06

What a stupid woman anne is saying your taking advantage of her and falling out over it

has she always been like this op

SomersetONeil · 21/05/2022 20:24

stuntbubbles · 21/05/2022 14:44

Eh, in that scenario I would absolutely have split the discount by totalling the tickets and going 50/50 – yes, I’d pay a little more, but my friend would pay a little less, and we’d be going on a trip together on the same fare. Wouldn’t matter that I’d bought the rail card because I’d bought it anyway, I’m not worse off for it.

Confused

How can you say ‘yes, I’d pay a little more’ and also say ‘it wouldn’t matter that I’d bought the rail card because I’d bought it anyway’…

… and then say ‘I’m not worse off for it’….?

Of course you’d be worse off. As you’ve said yourself - you’ve paid more AND you’ve paid for the rail card.

?

ivykaty44 · 21/05/2022 21:07

She’s also said she was giving us one last chance to make things right by sending her £140 each but we reiterated that wouldn’t be happening.

this bit is quite outing of her nature to try and make money off the back of her friends. Of course she would be quids in if you 4 all send her £140, its the one last chance its so like a con artist speech....

Anewdaydawns · 21/05/2022 21:30

The cheeky mare was using the rest of you to pay less herself. She's just having a hissy fit because the messages prove what you've all said is correct, so she hasn't been able to get away with it this time. Let her sulk or moan all she wants - given her past behaviour, it's about time she learned that she shouldn't treat friends like this. Perhaps she'll be less likely to try it on in future after this experience of being challenged and losing.

milliemooo · 21/05/2022 21:37

Just send £112 and suggest to the other 4 people to also send that amount to Anne. This is outrageous behaviour by a so called friend!

seven201 · 21/05/2022 21:52

Anyone else picturing Anne from Working Mums looking really pissed off? Although that Anne wouldn't be so tight, but she would be stubborn enough.

Sorry you have such a shit friend OP. I'm glad the gift is being returned and it's not been decided to give in to her.

Dasher789 · 21/05/2022 22:16

This is unbelievable. So glad you all stood your ground

Dee00 · 21/05/2022 22:21

Sorry but I think in your circumstance I would of bought 2 tickets and shared my discount. Infact I would of offered. If I was your friend I’d be the same. Sorry x

Dee00 · 21/05/2022 22:22

I was referring to the railcard! X

Bellieboo33 · 21/05/2022 22:36

Yep Anne’s a CF

BeforeGodAndAllTheFish · 21/05/2022 22:58

Dee00 · 21/05/2022 22:21

Sorry but I think in your circumstance I would of bought 2 tickets and shared my discount. Infact I would of offered. If I was your friend I’d be the same. Sorry x

But she has already paid for the railcard. It isnt free. She pays for the railcard. It gets her discounted tickets and you hope you use it enough to offset the initial cost.

It isnt a free discount. She has paid out a load of money for that card. Why should she then lose out on the discount she has paid for by putting money towards her friend's full price ticket?

Would you actually expect a friend of yours who has forked out a small fortune for a rail card to then pay more money on top of that so you could get £7.50 off your ticket?

BeforeGodAndAllTheFish · 21/05/2022 22:59

@Dee00

One more thing;
It is would have not would of.

tcjotm · 21/05/2022 23:06

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 21/05/2022 10:31

Just grab a big bundle of "XX% off!" posters from various shop windows and Robert's your auntie's husband.

When’s Anne’s birthday? It’s going to be magnificent, she’s such a lucky girl to be getting so many gifts like that 😂😂

I’m sure she so appreciate their generosity 🤣

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