To think women can "get rich easy" compared to men?

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This is more of is HE being unreasonable.

My male colleague said to me earlier that he wishes he were female because then he would be rich. He seems to think women can just show off their bodies and get rich. He always tells me I should get on OnlyFans as I'd make a killing. Or be an Instagram "influencer".

I can see his point in a way but I don't think it's as simple as that. First of all, I wouldn't make an OnlyFans account, and second of all, even if I did, I highly doubt I'd be able to generate any traffic as I don't have a big social media presence as it is.

As for being an influencer, there are so many good looking women out there who post on Instagram and the majority AREN'T influencers, nor do they make a living or even any money out of it.

Am I being naive or is he?

He's being weird and inappropriate.
On purpose.

Firstly I'd be reporting him to HR.

Secondly, well yes women would probably find it easier than men to make money by prostituting themselves....but the downside is they'd have to prostitute themselves.

I remember watching a programme where a female drug addict made hundreds of pounds every day by street walking to fund her habit. She made more in a day then you'd make working in a shop/office for a week. Downside is you risk murder, rape, stds and have to have sex with strangers in their car....hence why vast majority of women would rather earn less doing a "normal" job.

I don’t know what’s more offensive. The idea that exposing your body = easy money, or the fact that he seems to think it’s the only thing that a woman might have to offer. If that wasn’t bad enough the suggestion that you might want to consider such a career definitely tips this into sexual harassment territory and you need to report it. He’s a vile little specimen.

I'm sure these avenues are also open to men besides higher salary and quicker promotions ... gay porn might be a good side hassle for your "friend".

He needs telling it would be very unwise to speak in that way to women, it’s not the “locker room” with mates, if needed a senior colleague needs to put him straight. He is being an idiot and needs to change his attitude before it affects his career.

The average OnlyFans account makes $180 a month. The average would-be influencer makes nothing. Looking at what the most successful accounts make and assuming anyone could do it is like looking at Tom Cruise and assuming any jobbing actor could do as well.

Telling you to get on OnlyFans is gross and completely inappropriate in the work place.

That was my first thought, this is like overhearing two very thick people on a bus and wondering how on earth they figured out how to use a bus in the first place.

Any bloke telling you go get on Only Fans thinks you are a bimbo and would be flattered by the suggestion and he is aiming at turning your head so that you will open your legs for him.

Don't see it as a compliment but more of an ignoramus trying to get into your knickers.

Why are you engaging with the insufferable twat?

He seems to think women can just show off their bodies and get rich. He always tells me I should get on OnlyFans as I'd make a killing. Or be an Instagram "influencer".

"yes Dave, you've made your views plain, but this is not a suitable topic for the workplace so I'm going to need to ask you to be more professional in the way you speak to me."

Am I being naive or is he?
Wrong question.
What you meant to ask was "why am I tolerating rank sexism in my workplace?"

Although you ARE being naive. Seriously. That - or disingenuous.

He is just another man in a long line of men who think prostituting as ‘easy’ and not having any negative effects. He obviously has no fucking idea about being a woman and his measurement of our worth based solely upon the price that him and his fellow bottom feeders are willing to pay to objectify our bodies, says all you need to about his intellect and integrity.

Do not waste your time trying to counter his stupidity.

A work colleague told you you should go on only fans? That's so fucking inappropriate

It's entirely her responsibility to protect herself from sexual harrassment in the workplace. Just like it's her responsibility not to run under a bus.

That doesn't excuse her twat of a colleague one jot - but is is SHE who is encouraging his ridiculous sexism, by allowing him to blather on at her without at least challenging him, or better yet - cutting him off mid-flow.

Ha my brother in law always says this too me! If only it was this easy.

"But ... but ... I have to tolerate sexism in the workplace because ... men work here ...."

Fucksake OP.

I entered the workplace in 1980. Totally male dominated industry. I didn't tolerate it then - you, 40 years later, don't need to tolerate it now.

Firms don't need an HR department to tell them that sexually harrassing their employees is not good for business.

This is serial harassment actually. You should tell him this is inappropriate. If he doesn't stop you report him to HR. If HR do nothing you leave your job and take them to an employment tribunal for constructive dismissal.

This is the kind of casual sexism that needs knocking on the head. Imagine this guy ( somehow) ends up in a position where he is a decision maker in promotions. Or is recruiting staff. Is he going to choose an attractive woman if he thinks attractive women are only suitable to be prostitutes?

He is a fucking idiot. It is very unlikely that most women on OF make much, and the ones that do will find it is only for a short time, or they have to do things that are unpalatable. If he thinks women do it because they want to he is thick, they do it because they believe that it is the best one out of limited choices, the rest are reeled in by the promise of wash money, it’s not easy. Being an influencer is much the same, a few make a livible income, the rest are in debt, live with parents/partner who pay for them instead, or again do unpalatable things, or they are just grifters like Belle Gibson.
He is very, very sexist and I bet he can’t get a girlfriend due to his personality, he probably describes himself as a ‘nice guy’.

Sorry, that was sexual harassment I meant.

If you have no HR department then you go to your manager. If you get no joy there you go the next level up.

EinsteinaGogo · 19/05/2022 16:37
OP

Why are you talking OnlyFans at work with a male colleague, and/or not shutting down that sort of conversation the moment it comes up?“

this, 100%. I don’t know what only fans is but can imagine. Sounds like the modern equivalent of low shelf porn magazines years ago. Wasn’t appropriate to discuss those with a work colleague then, isn’t appropriate to discuss the modern version now.

Yep, it is very much a minority but women can and in some cases and do 'marry for money' or become rich purely via a relationship with a man in a way that is much less common in the other direction. To say otherwise is to deny reality. Not making any value judgement on it, just saying how it is.

Yep, it is very much a minority but women can and in some cases and do 'marry for money' or become rich purely via a relationship with a man in a way that is much less common in the other direction

That's because men value looks more than women do. Most rich men who marry non rich women marry very attractive women. Women are less bothered by looks so a rich woman is less likely to marry a man who is not rich purely because he's good looking.

@SmiledWtherisingsun
Did you even read the thread?

Caroline Aherene to Debbie McGee - "So what first attracted you to the multi-millionaire Paul Daniels?"

What an awkward way to pay you a compliment from a bitter and miserable individual. I suppose you have made it absolutely clear to him that he is not attractive to you and you will not be friends. But he still fancies you. So he chose to compliment you in a horrible way and let you know he wants to sleep with you and knowingly belittling you to feel superior.

Tell him to stfu and/ or you're going to report him.
That is exactly the sort of office " banter" that women should not tolerate being subjected to.
Not only do we still have the gender pay gap, but it's far too common that twats like that think we should also sit at work listening to them spewing such offensive degrading crap.
Fuck that.