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Sometimeswinning · 2022-05-14T23:08:50+00:00

For a country which is apparently hated! I don't usually care much for Eurovision, but enjoyed it this year!

ReadyToMoveIt · 15/05/2022 11:41

And it’s only British Exceptionalism that makes people think we’re hated. In reality, most other nations are indifferent to us. They certainly don’t waste time hating us 😂

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 15/05/2022 11:41

Our evening consisted of the boys saying that it would just be great not to get nul points

as the night went on it was just being on the left hand side of the board

then it was top 10

then top 5

😀

SnowyPetals · 15/05/2022 11:45

PrettyMaybug · 15/05/2022 09:51

This. ^ I bet all the Remainers /anti-Brexit people who laughed every time the UK lost Eurovision (spectacularly) over the past 4 or 5 years, are licking their wounds and wiping the egg off their face this morning Because they are WRONG. Europe does NOT hate us. Ooooh, it must be really be stinging them this morning! 😆

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Gosh, you sound incredibly bitter and adversarial. Don't you think the "them and us" Brexit narrative is a bit old hat after six years? You really should move on.

Emmelina · 15/05/2022 11:47

A fantastic result, I’d have been over the moon even getting on the left hand side of the board given our history!

Bromeliadh · 15/05/2022 11:52

The performers were, until last week, fighting for their homes and were given special dispensation to leave to perform.
No, they admitted on the programme that they never even picked up a gun. The performers were all male - it was a ticket out of Ukraine and I bet they don’t go back afterwards.

DisgruntledSloth · 15/05/2022 12:16

The performers were all male - it was a ticket out of Ukraine and I bet they don’t go back afterwards.

What is your evidence for this? What a nasty thing to say.

Oysterbabe · 15/05/2022 12:20

alfagirl73 · 15/05/2022 11:33

From what I understand, Sam Ryder didn't just deliver a great song, but he apparently put a lot of work and effort into changing the perception of the UK and Eurovision. He got a great reception last night and it was obvious he was very popular with other contestants and the audience. I think he did great and it was so exciting to see the UK doing well.

We need to build on this and keep putting forward strong performers with great songs - the UK needs to engage with it properly again. For years we've just turned up with a half-arsed effort just for the sake of being there, while massively taking the piss out of it all - and the other countries have noticed. Yes, there is political voting and yes it's all a bit cheesy - but we haven't helped ourselves in terms of the results. Last night proved that it's not ALL political. I don't begrudge Ukraine for winning - I don't think they had the best song - but I certainly don't mind a show of solidarity and support in the current circumstances. That aside, the result last night and the response to the UK shows that we can do very well if we make the effort - with the right artist, song and the right attitude. I thought there were numerous good songs last night - it was actually a decent show. It would be nice if the UK took this result and ran with it.

Hopefully his success and the huge amount of support people have shown will encourage talent to the competition who would have feared humiliation previously.

Luculentus · 15/05/2022 12:32

PrettyMaybug · 15/05/2022 09:51

This. ^ I bet all the Remainers /anti-Brexit people who laughed every time the UK lost Eurovision (spectacularly) over the past 4 or 5 years, are licking their wounds and wiping the egg off their face this morning Because they are WRONG. Europe does NOT hate us. Ooooh, it must be really be stinging them this morning! 😆

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You won. Get over it.

Alicetheowl · 15/05/2022 12:39

Out of interest, has any country won and not hosted? Obviously we hope by next year things will be peaceful enough for it to happen, but will they have the infrastructure or want to spend the money?

And what if Putin, God forbid, wins and Ukraine is part of Russia-they surely won't let Russia host?

LoveLarry · 15/05/2022 12:43

Bromeliadh · 15/05/2022 11:52

The performers were, until last week, fighting for their homes and were given special dispensation to leave to perform.
No, they admitted on the programme that they never even picked up a gun. The performers were all male - it was a ticket out of Ukraine and I bet they don’t go back afterwards.

You sound delightful

Maybebabyno2 · 15/05/2022 12:48

ReadyToMoveIt · 15/05/2022 11:39

I am actually shocked by this post.
Ukraine are being invaded by a far mightier country. The performers were, until last week, fighting for their homes and were given special dispensation to leave to perform.
It’s not a ‘sympathy vote’, it’s a show of support and solidarity. It’s the Eurovision Song Contest, a lighthearted entertainment show.
I bet Sam Ryder isn’t as pathetic and petty enough to think it’s ‘unfair’.

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This 100%

I wouldn't trade daily bombings and mass genocide for a win at bloody Eurovision.

It was absolutely a great morale boost for the Ukrainian people, I'm so glad they won. It shows them we are all behind them. Us coming second was an unexpected but fantastic bonus!

Pandamumium · 15/05/2022 12:50

I think the UK should offer to host next year if Ukraine can’t, with UK and Ukraine presenters.

sobeyondthehills · 15/05/2022 12:50

Alicetheowl · 15/05/2022 12:39

Out of interest, has any country won and not hosted? Obviously we hope by next year things will be peaceful enough for it to happen, but will they have the infrastructure or want to spend the money?

And what if Putin, God forbid, wins and Ukraine is part of Russia-they surely won't let Russia host?

Israel have won and not hosted, cant think what year but then won two on the trot and didnt want to host a second year running, Netherlands picked that one up. (I think)

I dont think it was a given we would have won without the sympathy vote given, Spain or Sweden could have picked up some more public votes.

Norway was robbed though.

Maybebabyno2 · 15/05/2022 12:52

Alicetheowl · 15/05/2022 12:39

Out of interest, has any country won and not hosted? Obviously we hope by next year things will be peaceful enough for it to happen, but will they have the infrastructure or want to spend the money?

And what if Putin, God forbid, wins and Ukraine is part of Russia-they surely won't let Russia host?

Yes it had happened a few times. If the winning contry can't host, it falls to one of the top 5 contributers. I hope the UK stand in if Ukraine can't.

forinborin · 15/05/2022 12:56

Bromeliadh · 15/05/2022 11:52

The performers were, until last week, fighting for their homes and were given special dispensation to leave to perform.
No, they admitted on the programme that they never even picked up a gun. The performers were all male - it was a ticket out of Ukraine and I bet they don’t go back afterwards.

They were back in the morning, giving interviews.

forinborin · 15/05/2022 12:58

And what if Putin, God forbid, wins and Ukraine is part of Russia-they surely won't let Russia host?
I think in this case who hosts Eurovision will be a minor issue in the bigger scheme of things, really.

Luculentus · 16/05/2022 08:54

Maybebabyno2 · 15/05/2022 12:52

Yes it had happened a few times. If the winning contry can't host, it falls to one of the top 5 contributers. I hope the UK stand in if Ukraine can't.

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I don't. It's an awful lot of expense that we can really do without.

quiteathome · 16/05/2022 09:22

I think the result was the right one. Nobody really wanted to be the country to beat Ukraine this year. So coming second was the best result overall. This was only a small way for people to send a message of solidarity to the Ukrainian people.

Sam Ryder seems to be a lovely man- he was seen giving the Swiss singer a hug after the Swiss man got no points in the public vote.

This proves that with a decent song, with a likeable performer we can do well in Eurovision.

SmellsLikeMiddleAgeSpirit · 16/05/2022 11:12

I think the result was the right one. Nobody really wanted to be the country to beat Ukraine this year. So coming second was the best result overall. This was only a small way for people to send a message of solidarity to the Ukrainian people

Absolutely this. I can't believe the sour grapes on here. And the criticism of Ukraine's win, performance (which was good!) and even their taking part FFS

it was a ticket out of Ukraine

So what even if it was? Is entering for fame and fortune more worthy?

Sam Ryder himself seemed so gracious, grateful and good-humoured about everything, whether it was leading or ultimately not winning. Perhaps the sore losers should take a leaf from his book.

Eurovision is surely about everyone coming together rather than bitter rivalry. Remember the Lithuanian (I think) woman (with the bowl cut)... every time the camera cut to her she pointed to a Ukrainian flag and mouthed "vote", and she was competing on behalf of another country.

The solidarity for Ukraine was fantastic.

AlternativePerspective · 16/05/2022 11:22

Maybebabyno2 · 15/05/2022 12:52

Yes it had happened a few times. If the winning contry can't host, it falls to one of the top 5 contributers. I hope the UK stand in if Ukraine can't.

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I sincerely hope we don’t offer to host, in fact I don’t think we should.

As sad as it is for Ukraine, I don’t think it should fall to other countries to host if they are unable to. Especially in the current financial crisis.

Good for them that they won and all, but in truth if they knew they were unlikely to be able to host next year they shouldn’t have participated.And I’d say that for any country.

GunsNShips · 16/05/2022 11:44

Such a lots of nonsense on here from people who don’t really understand the way voting in Eurovision works.

The countries juries vote on who has the best song. Nothing (well very little) to do with politics - there are some countries who seem to give higher points to their neighbours but by and large the big points go the the better songs. In this case the UK. The Ukraine didn’t get us 12 points because we’ve been so amazing for them (have we?!) but because our song was better. France didn’t give us 12 points because they love us after all; our song was better.

The public vote tends to be where the politics come in. We only got 12 points from one country - Malta. Ok fair enough because most gave 12 points to Ukraine but only one country (Israel) gave us 10 points too.

French public gave us 2 points and Ukraine gave us 7. So no, there is not suddenly an overwhelming love for the UK. We just had a good song and from what I heard, Sam Ryder was a genuinely lovely bloke and it was publicised better this year.

voting info from:
eurovision.tv/event/turin-2022/grand-final/results/united-kingdom

Journeybacknorth · 16/05/2022 11:50

A great result all round!

I don’t think it would be a terrible thing for the UK to host - it could be a great thing for the economy through all the visitors it would attract, not to mention the opportunity to showcase the UK to the whole of Europe. I for one have booked a weekend in Italy off the back of those beautiful shots introducing each song!

LindaEllen · 16/05/2022 12:04

marmite101 · 15/05/2022 00:29

The only year we could have won and we lost to a sympathy vote.

It's all political, and if the political climate changed (i.e. no war) we wouldn't have got the votes we did - so this is really a moot point.

jcyclops · 16/05/2022 14:08

I thought the biggest shock of the night was the Croatian jury giving Serbia 12 points. The least surprising was Cyprus giving Greece 12 points. I thought the best performance of the night was Måneskin - last year's winners.

WeCouldBeSpearows · 16/05/2022 14:14

I find it interesting that everyone seems to think that we would have won had it not been for the war in Ukraine - but it's not guaranteed that we would have won enough of the public vote to have stayed at the top. It's entirely possible that one of the countries that got more public votes than us would have increased their share and overtaken us. Spain, most likely.

We only came fifth in the public vote.