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To think a week's suspension isn't enough for this ?

61 replies

milkyway100 · 11/05/2022 18:40

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10805247/Doctor-43-unlawfully-accessed-pregnant-ex-girlfriends-medical-records.html

OP posts:
Tamzo85 · 11/05/2022 18:45

I mean she broke up with him on the same day she told him she was pregnant with his child.

Cut him some slack, I don’t blame him for reacting in an unprofessional way and thinking about the baby then doing this.

CompostMaker · 11/05/2022 18:53

Was it his baby? If it was then I completely understand why he would want to look at the ultrasound. I think it was too harsh - he should have perhaps been spoken too by a supervisor. He hasn’t really done anything terrible, just looked at some ultrasound pictures and test results.

spongedog · 11/05/2022 19:06

Probably the single largest breach of Data Protection and Confidentiality I have heard in some time. I am a qualified professional (over 30 years) and work in this field. He needed to have been sacked as a bare minimum. He has deliberately broken so many ethical codes that his professional integrity is significantly impaired. He has broken NHS guidelines, medical ethics AND the law. Quite some doing for a man in his 40's who has probably been qualified and working under this strict regulatory environment for several years. So if he will do that what other guidelines would he break next? He did this deliberately - this was not an accident. That is not a doctor who should be practicing. At all.

spongedog · 11/05/2022 19:10

And the law isnt about "slack" Professional ethics and codes arent about "slack". Yes he has done something terrible - he has broken a new law (DPA 2018) that he will have received training for. Not only has he decided that he doesnt have to comply with the law, he has also decided that accessing another person's medical records for personal reasons is good enough. GP Receptionists are trained that this isnt OK. He is a consultant. That senior. Time for him to go - pushed if he wont go voluntarily.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2022 19:10

CompostMaker · 11/05/2022 18:53

Was it his baby? If it was then I completely understand why he would want to look at the ultrasound. I think it was too harsh - he should have perhaps been spoken too by a supervisor. He hasn’t really done anything terrible, just looked at some ultrasound pictures and test results.

Would you be happy with say, a neighbour who is a nurse looking up your medical records because she was curious after seeing an ambulance outside your house?

This doctor should be sacked at the bare minimum.

DogsAndGin · 11/05/2022 19:12

spongedog · 11/05/2022 19:06

Probably the single largest breach of Data Protection and Confidentiality I have heard in some time. I am a qualified professional (over 30 years) and work in this field. He needed to have been sacked as a bare minimum. He has deliberately broken so many ethical codes that his professional integrity is significantly impaired. He has broken NHS guidelines, medical ethics AND the law. Quite some doing for a man in his 40's who has probably been qualified and working under this strict regulatory environment for several years. So if he will do that what other guidelines would he break next? He did this deliberately - this was not an accident. That is not a doctor who should be practicing. At all.

Completely agree! Disgraceful.

Also, what kind of deterrent is this? Anyone can now access anyone’s records and all they get is a week off work?!

AllFreeOwls · 11/05/2022 19:13

Tamzo85 · 11/05/2022 18:45

I mean she broke up with him on the same day she told him she was pregnant with his child.

Cut him some slack, I don’t blame him for reacting in an unprofessional way and thinking about the baby then doing this.

The article doesn't say which one of them initiated the break up.

The law isn't about "slack", although he seems to have got an amazing amount of "slack" with this minor punishment.

TabithaTittlemouse · 11/05/2022 19:16

Absolutely nothing excuses his behaviour. It’s never okay and he knows that.
He knew that he could lose his job and still did it.

He should have been fired.

nocoolnamesleft · 11/05/2022 19:16

The baby may be his, but they are currently inside a woman. He does not own that woman. This is a pretty bad breach. Though I can't understand, if she was unhappy with the hospital's response, why she went to the Daily Mail instead of the GMC. Though it might be that she realises that if he gets a long suspension/struck off, he'll be able to pay fuck all child support...

AnyFucker · 11/05/2022 19:16

That is a sackable offence. No ifs, no buts.

TabithaTittlemouse · 11/05/2022 19:16

Tamzo85 · 11/05/2022 18:45

I mean she broke up with him on the same day she told him she was pregnant with his child.

Cut him some slack, I don’t blame him for reacting in an unprofessional way and thinking about the baby then doing this.

He’s been cut some slack by not being fired.

AstroSurf · 11/05/2022 19:18

XenoBitch · 11/05/2022 19:10

Would you be happy with say, a neighbour who is a nurse looking up your medical records because she was curious after seeing an ambulance outside your house?

This doctor should be sacked at the bare minimum.

In your hypothetical situation am I pregnant with the neighbour's child?

MatildaTheCat · 11/05/2022 19:20

It’s an appalling thing he did but the reality is that consultant radiologists are an extremely scarce commodity right now and their low numbers are contributing to, for example, slow cancer diagnoses and delays in urgent surgery.

I imagine his seniors were trying to balance this fact alongside the unlikely event that he would reoffend or put his patients at risk.

I am NOT condoning his actions.

TabithaTittlemouse · 11/05/2022 19:20

CompostMaker · 11/05/2022 18:53

Was it his baby? If it was then I completely understand why he would want to look at the ultrasound. I think it was too harsh - he should have perhaps been spoken too by a supervisor. He hasn’t really done anything terrible, just looked at some ultrasound pictures and test results.

She is not his patient. He knew it was wrong.

One of my family members was referred to my team. I made it clear to the team that I was not to be involved in their care, excused myself from meetings where they were discussed and although I could easily have accessed their records the thought never crossed my mind.

rwalker · 11/05/2022 19:21

Friend got suspended from her hospital on full pay for 6 weeks whilst investigation then final written warning.
For looking at alot of friends and relatives medical records

GlitchStitch · 11/05/2022 19:23

Tamzo85 · 11/05/2022 18:45

I mean she broke up with him on the same day she told him she was pregnant with his child.

Cut him some slack, I don’t blame him for reacting in an unprofessional way and thinking about the baby then doing this.

She didn't break up with him. She told him she was pregnant and then he announced he had secretly got married 6 months previously when visiting his family abroad. She's been quite open online about it all. He should have been sacked at the very least.

Neverreturntoathread · 11/05/2022 19:24

spongedog · 11/05/2022 19:06

Probably the single largest breach of Data Protection and Confidentiality I have heard in some time. I am a qualified professional (over 30 years) and work in this field. He needed to have been sacked as a bare minimum. He has deliberately broken so many ethical codes that his professional integrity is significantly impaired. He has broken NHS guidelines, medical ethics AND the law. Quite some doing for a man in his 40's who has probably been qualified and working under this strict regulatory environment for several years. So if he will do that what other guidelines would he break next? He did this deliberately - this was not an accident. That is not a doctor who should be practicing. At all.

This.

vodkaredbullgirl · 11/05/2022 19:32

Anyone else would be sacked.

Wheresmywoolyjumpers · 11/05/2022 19:32

This is a great example of doctors getting away with crap they would have been fired for in the past. It wont be the last with the current shortages. If you work in medicine, it is drummed into you over and over again that you only look at records if you are treating that person or performing an administrative task for the client.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2022 19:34

AstroSurf · 11/05/2022 19:18

In your hypothetical situation am I pregnant with the neighbour's child?

Unless you are their patient, they should not be accessing your records. Being pregnant with their child does not give them free reign to your medical records.

Silversprinkles · 11/05/2022 19:42

@Tamzo85 who says she broke up with him? Look a little deeper ...

sobeyondthehills · 11/05/2022 19:43

I understand why he did it, but also I do think he should be sacked, someone posted in the unlikely event, what is now stopping him from seeing when she is giving birth?

There was a recent newspaper report around a woman who accessed her son's ex girlfriend's medical records and she has been sacked.

I cant actually see the difference in what they both did

OnceAgainWithFeeling · 11/05/2022 19:49

During my short NHS (HR) career I was there when 2 members of staff were dismissed for accessing someone’s medical records without clinical cause. They were nurses.

Unfortunately the medical unions played an absolute blinder and it’s near impossible to sack a medic. 😡

Toddlerteaplease · 11/05/2022 19:57

CompostMaker · 11/05/2022 18:53

Was it his baby? If it was then I completely understand why he would want to look at the ultrasound. I think it was too harsh - he should have perhaps been spoken too by a supervisor. He hasn’t really done anything terrible, just looked at some ultrasound pictures and test results.

You absolutely cannot look up your own records. Let alone some one else's. Especially not his girlfriends. It's irrelevant that it's his child. He should have been sacked.

Brefugee · 11/05/2022 20:00

It’s an appalling thing he did but the reality is that consultant radiologists are an extremely scarce commodity right now and their low numbers are contributing to, for example, slow cancer diagnoses and delays in urgent surgery.

where do we draw the line? speeding? sorry - his profession is in short supply,let him off. drunk driving? same. Drunk driving and killing someone? rape? murder?

He needs to be struck off.