Lee Anderson MP for Ashfield is a pompous, ignorant, patronising oaf

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Mr Anderson invites us all along to his local food bank to see how they do things there. If you're poor enough and don't have any food you can register there for a handout. You have you sign up to be taught to budget and cook and be properly grateful. So, great. Budget with the cash you haven't got in the first place then cook with the fuel you can't afford. Reminds me of something I read in "Wotking Class Wives" a study of poverty in the 1930s. Lady Health Visitors were surprised that when some people were rehoused from the slums into houses with gas cookers, they continued to cook on the fire. Because, like now, they couldn't afford 2 amounts of fuel, gas AND coal. Such progress we've made in the last 100 years. I'd like to kick his arse.

Previously I would defend people's right to vote for whoever they chose to the absolute end. People have their reasons and it's important to seperate the actions of the people in power and the people who vote for them.

That said, I find it increasingly impossible to understand how anyone can look at the actions of the tory government and tory MPs and continue to support them.

My village went 10 days without power after the storms in November. 10 days without hot water, heating, light etc. Do you know what our tory MP did during that time? He didn't answer the phone, he sent auto-replies to emails and he was pictured on a paper planting fucking trees 20 miles up the road. In short, he did absolutely fuck all.

In direct contrast our SNP MSP was in the village, knocking on doors and helping out at the village hall to arrange generators and liasing with people who did have hot water to offer showers etc.

And yet come the next GE a significant number of people will still vote tory.

Remind us again which party has been in charge of education for the past 12 years.

Excellent. Learn to cook when there's sweet FA in the cupboard and ditto in your purse. All you need to get you through. I recall the days when 'domestic science was taught in every school'. I also recall many truanting on cooking days because their parents couldn't afford to buy the ingredients they needed to take to class and they'd rather get a detention than tell everyone they were so poor. If this ignorant, smug, wealthy MP represents you, sort it out at the next GE.

Great post @Crikeyalmighty

And @pointythings is spot on. Anyone voting for the 21st century version of the Tory party is well dodgy by association. We're all aware of how depraved they are, you couldn't miss it, so there's absolutely no defence in saying you haven't seen who they've shown themselves to be

The funny thing is the Torys were the ones to end Sure Start centre's that actually were there to help people budget and be able to make and prepare meals!
Obviously that is not just the reason many people can not afford to eat though but one of many.

These comments really reveal how in denial the Conservatives are over this crisis. It doesn't personally affect them, so it must be the fault of those suffering.

How "dodgy" are some of you are for giving support to a party who instigate illegal wars and denigrates the biological woman. Apologists I believe is the word.

Oh well, at least our dead are being buried.

You haven't answered the question. I guess you're colluding with destroying the biological woman's identity, as a Labour voter. Hope you're not a feminist. Which reminds me, when WAS the last female Labour leader?

Labscollie ·I really don't think a biological woman's identity, is top priority for those who can't afford to put food on the table or pay their bills.

Oh of course not. Much the same as pushing for investigating lockdown parties shouldn't have been a top priority for Labour, when the Ukranian civilians were being bombed. All they could think about was toppling the PM..during a major crisis. Unreal.

This is typical smoke and mirrors. The existence of food banks is largely down to things like zero-hour contracts. terrible wages, rising rents, bills and now inflation. Budgeting and cooking from scratch, of course, is helpful but in the majority of foodbank cases, they are already doing all the right things. I have volunteered for over 5 years at my local food bank and I can honestly say most of our clients can tell you in detail where every penny of their income goes, most of them know all the tricks and tips on how to make cheap meals and buy cheap food, they come to the food bank as a last resort.

I think this MP knows the truth but of course, this doesn't make him look good. Having a food bank no matter what they offer is not a good thing. I can't wait for the day when my local food bank tells me they are no longer needed.

Our PM is a lying charlatan . Every time he opens his mouth out comes a lie. It seems pathological in that he even believes his own lies. He needs to go.

Has Johnson changed his name to Lee Anderson? The government has distanced themselves from Anderson's assertion. This is the thing, Labour are so obsessed with the Tories that they never address their own party's failure. What happened to Labour being the working class party? Reading this thread and the other political threads, it's just an endless stream of the same old vitriol. As a non Labour voter, I agree Anderson is an idiot. That's being balanced. Your party, whether you like it or not, has had and still does have embarrassments on the front bench.

This notion that any and all other issues are ignored because there is a war on is utter bullshit.

The defence of "oh, there is a war on, let's not worry about our PM being fundamentally unfit for office" is about as flimsy as they come. If we can change leaders when we are actually in a war as we did with Chamberlain then I'm sure we can cope with Boris stepping down when all we are doing is sending a few arms to Ukraine and failing to deal with the refuge crisis in any sort of efficient manner.

What a disgusting, stupid man. Many people using food banks don't have time for cookery classes between working their jobs and trying to get to the supermarket in time for the Uellow stickers.

Lee Anderson is a typical Tory bullshitter and disgrace. The whole party is rotten and it has destroyed the UK in the 12 years it's been in power.🤬

You lot make it up as you go along. Biological women's identity is only important, when it suits. Yet the Ukranians come second to partygate. Blair was really a Tory when he LIED about WMD. You always move the goal posts. Add Diane Abbott into the mix, it's no wonder why Labour are a laughing stock. Priceless 😅

Baaa baaaa baaaa baaaaht Layburrrrr.🐏🐏🐏🐑

It is entirely unfair to compare the Chancellor to the much loved children's cartoon character Scrooge McDuck as a PP may have done, rolling in pound notes rather than helping people. The Chancellor has plans to help people in 2024 when things are more predictable. If you have to compare the Chancellor to a children's cartoon character then someone from Paw Patrol, perhaps?

No, it's not like an ambulance not treating a patient until their outcome will be much better known in 2024. Nor like the fire brigade not waiting for a couple of years. Economic uncertainty and energy prices are completely different.

Not every thread has no be about gender issues you know. Some people have more immediate concerns.

Typical silver spoon Eton chum eh?

Considering there doesn't appear to be any teaching of budgeting or decent cooking at school level it's not unreasonable to think that maybe teaching it is a good idea.

I’m curious as to how his local food bank is able to offer these courses to people who work, sometimes several jobs plus care for children and elderly relatives. How do they find the time to fit this in and ensure that all participants can make the course on the same day and time or are all these courses taught individually and if so how much time and resources are being taken away from the food bank to do this?

Are you serious? This is the most corrupt venal lying vicious uncaring government I've ever known. I turned 60 this week and I have never seen a government so bad.

I don't have a vote, since I am an EU national living in the UK. But yes, you can be damn sure Labour would get my vote if I had one, because people not being able to feed their families is a tad more important than identity politics. And as someone who has a trans man in my household I don't hold the kind of extremist views on the trans debate that many on MN hold, so no, Labour's views on this are something I couldn't care less about.

Your pathetic whataboutery about Tony Blair and the Iraq war is incredibly hollow, since the Tories went along with it wholehearteedly.