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Lee Anderson MP for Ashfield is a pompous, ignorant, patronising oaf

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newnamethanks · 11/05/2022 16:23

Mr Anderson invites us all along to his local food bank to see how they do things there. If you're poor enough and don't have any food you can register there for a handout. You have you sign up to be taught to budget and cook and be properly grateful. So, great. Budget with the cash you haven't got in the first place then cook with the fuel you can't afford. Reminds me of something I read in "Wotking Class Wives" a study of poverty in the 1930s. Lady Health Visitors were surprised that when some people were rehoused from the slums into houses with gas cookers, they continued to cook on the fire. Because, like now, they couldn't afford 2 amounts of fuel, gas AND coal. Such progress we've made in the last 100 years. I'd like to kick his arse.

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Roselilly36 · 11/05/2022 19:46

Just shows how out of touch MP’s are and why the system needs a total revamp.

pointythings · 11/05/2022 19:48

@Clavinova just goes to show some people don't learn from past experience but just turn into self-serving self-righteous heartless twats anyway.

Kendodd · 11/05/2022 19:52

I bet they still win the next election.
12 years of Tory rule and I've never seen poverty like it in the UK and I'm 50, grew up on benefits in a northern city.

RiverSkater · 11/05/2022 19:56

I can't get over how he was proud of the food bank serving its people. When the government should be doing that.

Zilla1 · 11/05/2022 20:32

But where's your empathy? MPs only got a £2500? payrise together with increases in allowances and family members pay, that's practically like a pay cut in today's inflation. And the inflation rate for the things MPs have to buy that they can't claim back on expenses is probably a much greater % than for most people. we're all in it together.Is it any wonder some have to take second jobs like cleaning up and advising poor countries having to cope with bureaucratic enquiries.

Zilla1 · 11/05/2022 20:33

No surprise he's proud of food banks, it's the big society in action. David Cameron's genius once again coming to fruition.

Piggywaspushed · 11/05/2022 21:36

twitter.com/LiamThorpECHO/status/1524418659485208577

Lee Anderson MP, who today said poor people forced to use foodbanks 'cannot cook or budget properly' claimed £222,000 in expenses in 2020/21 - including £4,100 on travel and 'subsistence'

Mayorquimby2 · 11/05/2022 21:44

Tories gonna Tory

Echobelly · 11/05/2022 21:50

People with money tend to forget that money buys choice and the poorest people have fewer choices than them. They can't 'just' do this or that because there's no 'just' about it. Things people like me can take for granted - affording energy bills, having a variety of cooking utensils and decent sized fridge/freezer, only needing to work one job to live, having a fully equipped kitchen etc - are pipe dreams for some people, many, if not most of whom, are in employment that literally doesn't pay enough to live on.

Zilla1 · 11/05/2022 21:50

Exactly and imagine how much more out of pocket he will be when inflation bites with all of that spend he needs to incur just to do his job. Such self sacrifice. It will show how dedicated he is that he will plough on regardless to continue to provide cooking and shopping advice to his lucky constituents.

baroqueandblue · 12/05/2022 00:22

While BJ was in Sweden today making (political, sounds-good, not legally binding) promises to protect the Swedes if Putin starts on them, a journalist asked him why he wasn't focusing on protecting the UK people in dire need due to the cost of living crisis.

As you can probably imagine, he gave nothing but waffle and piffle in reply 🙄

Scurryfunge12 · 12/05/2022 05:08

I just cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can think this morally corrupt bunch of soulless vermin is the best option?

They are in the firing line every week for their contempt for people, yet we still get people rushing to their defence. Those people must be equally heartless.

When did the population take leave of its senses and compassion for others? I’m ashamed and fed up. I used to love this country. 🥲

Anything is preferable.

Labscollie · 12/05/2022 08:44

pointythings · 11/05/2022 17:22

It isn't just him. It's all of the Tory party and it's everyone who votes for them.

Food banks should not be necessary in the UK and their existence is a disgrace. Their expansion under this Tory government is something they should be deeply ashamed off - but they aren't, because this is what they want.

What about everyone, who votes for them? can you be more clear on this sweeping generalisation please.

Labscollie · 12/05/2022 08:45

The man is an idiot, but every party has a clown.

DuncinToffee · 12/05/2022 08:52

Labscollie · 12/05/2022 08:45

The man is an idiot, but every party has a clown.

Some parties have more than others

Crikeyalmighty · 12/05/2022 08:53

I'm afraid that the problem is Lee Anderson is a perfect endictment of Ashfield man and they think he's a 'top bloke' - this is the guy who had a photo op at someone's door and put 'splendid knockers ' whilst at the door with a woman with an ample cleavage. I was born at Kings Mill (Ashfield) and lived there till I was 29. The women are much nicer than the men, a great many of whom are mysoginistic , racist, loud mouthed know it alls who think they are hard done by , yet are always down the pub and having multiple holidays as it's cheap housing. Apologies to anyone from Mansfield/Ashfield, but I'm afraid that's how I see many blokes from that area. It's a UKIP wet dream, hence the Tory voting in quite a deprived area.

Labscollie · 12/05/2022 08:59

DuncinToffee · 12/05/2022 08:52

Some parties have more than others

Nothing will ever beat Abbott, for clown status, so yes, you're right.

Squillerman · 12/05/2022 09:03

It’s a typical Tory point of view held by many Tory voters as well as the MP’s. FIL’s partner is a Tory and she thinks people are only poor because they’re lazy and work shy. She got herself out of poverty by working her arse off at uni so she thinks everyone else should do the same forgetting the fact not everyone is academic like her and she also went to uni for free.

I do agree with him on one thing though, people do need to learn how to cook and it would help obesity rates if people did. I think it should be taught in schools again. I left home at 16 and I had no idea how to do anything for myself at all so I had to teach myself everything from scratch. It isn’t difficult to follow a recipe but so many people cop out of cooking claiming they ‘can’t do it’, it’s nonsense.

Mumoblue · 12/05/2022 09:07

I mean, the Tories are pretty open about their contempt for the poor, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. Fuck ‘em.

pointythings · 12/05/2022 09:08

What about everyone, who votes for them? can you be more clear on this sweeping generalisation please.

Simple - if you vote Tory now, you support everything they believe in. You are an apologist for the sleaze, the lies, the callousness, the dismissal of the poor. It says a lot about a person's morals if they vote Tory.

Labscollie · 12/05/2022 09:13

pointythings · 12/05/2022 09:08

What about everyone, who votes for them? can you be more clear on this sweeping generalisation please.

Simple - if you vote Tory now, you support everything they believe in. You are an apologist for the sleaze, the lies, the callousness, the dismissal of the poor. It says a lot about a person's morals if they vote Tory.

It's not simple at all, it's short sighted. People may vote for them because of tax reasons, commercial enterprise, positivity/self help. It's like saying everybody who votes Labour are negative bone idle benefit scroungers. Are you one?

pointythings · 12/05/2022 09:27

Your argument is basically that people vote exclusively for their own self interest - they don't. Plenty of hard working decent people vote for parties other than the Tories - FPTP distorts the outcome. I agree that the 'I'm all right, Jack' brigade is strong in the UK - doesn't mean I have to respect them. I have friends who have been staunch Tory voters - they are not voting for them this time, they're staying at home. Anyone who would still vote Tory in a GE right now is colluding in Westminster sleaze.

UndertheCedartree · 12/05/2022 09:34

mumda · 11/05/2022 16:57

Foodbanks only exist because of the generosity of others; whether supermarkets who make some donations (Presumably out of profits of the full price shopping purchases of the rest of us) or from the general public's generosity.

In poor countries (where they perhaps measure poverty very differently to how we do here) then people are just left to beg on the streets and starve.

At the foodbank I used to volunteer at a supermarket gave them the food that was waste as there was noone at the house when they tried to deliver it. So it didn't affect their profit.

UndertheCedartree · 12/05/2022 09:49

Squillerman · 12/05/2022 09:03

It’s a typical Tory point of view held by many Tory voters as well as the MP’s. FIL’s partner is a Tory and she thinks people are only poor because they’re lazy and work shy. She got herself out of poverty by working her arse off at uni so she thinks everyone else should do the same forgetting the fact not everyone is academic like her and she also went to uni for free.

I do agree with him on one thing though, people do need to learn how to cook and it would help obesity rates if people did. I think it should be taught in schools again. I left home at 16 and I had no idea how to do anything for myself at all so I had to teach myself everything from scratch. It isn’t difficult to follow a recipe but so many people cop out of cooking claiming they ‘can’t do it’, it’s nonsense.

Offering cooking lessons is fine. But assuming people can't cook because they are poor is patronising. When I volunteered at a food bank I knew a client who was an exceptional cook, she used to always take the fancy cooking ingredients we had.

UndertheCedartree · 12/05/2022 09:50

And I'm poor now. Doesn't mean all of a sudden I forgot how to cook!

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