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Anyone recognise this symbol?

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TulaOfDarkWater · 09/05/2022 13:08

Does anyone recognise this symbol?

My friend met a guy online about 6 months ago and they are now a couple even though they haven’t met. She was showing me some pictures of him and this came up; it’s actually his profile picture from the site they met on and when I asked her about it, she laughed and said she asked him what it means but he‘s “forgotten” which I find really odd, I mean why make this your profile picture if you can’t remember the meaning?

They’re due to meet soon and I’m really worried for her. My friend is somewhat vulnerable and some of the things she’s said about him / their relationship has already raised alarms bells for me. This shirt has just added to my worry as to my eyes, the imagery closely resembles a well known hate symbol and I can’t help but jump to conclusions.

Can someone please tell me I’m being unreasonable and that this symbol is actually completely innocent?

Anyone recognise this symbol?
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RebornRebound · 09/05/2022 13:10

It's a Motorhead jacket. They're a band.

usedmeteor · 09/05/2022 13:10

It's a Motorhead shirt www.emp.co.uk/p/Make-A-Difference/3599533XL.html/

InPraiseOfBacchus · 09/05/2022 13:11

It's a Motorhead band logo, nothing too sinister (more just the band trying to be edgy back in the day).

Google the "Make a difference, Go f* yourself" slogan to see more of them

Susanmartha · 09/05/2022 13:11

I'm pretty sure that's a Motorhead t shirt ~ I have no idea whether that makes it a cause for concern though.

Chartreuse45 · 09/05/2022 13:14

It seems to be the back of a "motorhead" t-shirt, so nothing too bad!

SpindleInTheWind · 09/05/2022 13:15

It looks like a phoenix above a cross. The symbolism itself can be harmless, and used as a kind of clappy church logo.

But it has also been appropriated by some right-wing groups and with the gothic/hun style lettering, I'd be a little concerned about the latter.

But it really could be just a bit 'goth'. It has ancient origins, like a lot of symbols.

SpindleInTheWind · 09/05/2022 13:16

X-posted!

Fuck me, I saw Motorhead live once. Nearly burst my bloody ears but mostly harmless!

RozHuntleysLeftHand · 09/05/2022 13:21

Definitely a Motor head t.
Absolutely nothing sinister about it at all, they skirted a bit close to the wind with some of their symbolism but Lemmy was a decent guy. I'd seen them loads of times before he died.
I think if you have concerns about her though you need to specify them and you might get some good advice.

Onlyforcake · 09/05/2022 13:23

It's weirder that "he's forgotten" so he just wanted to be cool? He just picked a random thing? Or is that his jacket?

The forgotten thing, definitely suggests he's concealing something for some reason

BigChesterDraws · 09/05/2022 13:29

SpindleInTheWind · 09/05/2022 13:16

X-posted!

Fuck me, I saw Motorhead live once. Nearly burst my bloody ears but mostly harmless!

Sure, Jan….

worraliberty · 09/05/2022 13:34

Why didn't you just Google the image OP?

It brings up Motorhead immediately.

Indicatrice · 09/05/2022 13:53

SpindleInTheWind · 09/05/2022 13:15

It looks like a phoenix above a cross. The symbolism itself can be harmless, and used as a kind of clappy church logo.

But it has also been appropriated by some right-wing groups and with the gothic/hun style lettering, I'd be a little concerned about the latter.

But it really could be just a bit 'goth'. It has ancient origins, like a lot of symbols.

Yes, I would run a mile from anyone associating themselves with this imagery.

A bit like hiding in plain sight.

StaunchMomma · 09/05/2022 13:55

Lemmy would approve 🤘

Nothing to worry about here, OP. He's just a metalhead.

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TulaOfDarkWater · 09/05/2022 14:00

If it’s just a Motörhead symbol then that’s a huge relief, thanks all!

It's weirder that "he's forgotten" so he just wanted to be cool? He just picked a random thing? Or is that his jacket?

The forgotten thing, definitely suggests he's concealing something for some reason

It’s him wearing it and that’s a good point, if he’s a big enough fan to have the shirt surely he would remember!

But it has also been appropriated by some right-wing groups and with the gothic/hun style lettering, I'd be a little concerned about the latter.

This is what worried me as he’s expressed some hate views in my opinion but then he laughs it off as “jokes” or a misunderstanding.

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ComtesseDeSpair · 09/05/2022 14:05

I’d be more concerned that your friend thinks they’re a couple but they’ve never met. She has no idea who he is.

If you don’t think she’d listen to you, does she have a relative you can speak to about relationship and your concerns?

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TulaOfDarkWater · 09/05/2022 14:05

I think if you have concerns about her though you need to specify them and you might get some good advice.

My friend is kindest, sweetest person you could ever meet but she seems to attract abusive arseholes and goes from one abusive relationship to the next, it’s almost like she can’t see or ignores the warning signs as she’s longing for the fairytale, happily ever after ending.

She met this guy online 6 months ago and they’re already in a proper relationship despite never meeting which to me is a red flag in itself and because they’re now a “couple”, they’re sharing finances, online banking details, looking at homes etc. He’s also been love bombing her / future faking in my opinion.

He’s also expressed what I consider hate views but always in a subtle / concealed way, it’s never overt which means he can then backtrack saying it was a joke, he’s been completely misunderstood or he didn’t mean any harm.

I don’t know what to do to be honest, at the very least I want her to be cautious and alert but she’s infatuated and well and truly has her blinkers on.

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MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 09/05/2022 14:11

WTAF. Your friend is being taken for a ride. They are sharing finances but haven’t met. This is very worrying.

MargotMoon · 09/05/2022 14:11

This is what worried me as he’s expressed some hate views in my opinion but then he laughs it off as “jokes” or a misunderstanding.

As you've said though, this on its own is enough for you to be wary of him, just because Motörhead aren't a dodgy Nazi band doesn't mean that he isn't dodgy/a Nazi.

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TulaOfDarkWater · 09/05/2022 14:12

ComtesseDeSpair · 09/05/2022 14:05

I’d be more concerned that your friend thinks they’re a couple but they’ve never met. She has no idea who he is.

If you don’t think she’d listen to you, does she have a relative you can speak to about relationship and your concerns?

Absolutely, I agree 100%. He’s a slippery character with an answer for everything so I was hoping this symbol would be tangible proof of something which couldn’t be argued with if you see what I mean.

To be honest she comes from an abusive, dysfunctional family which is why I think my friend is the way she is.

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SpindleInTheWind · 09/05/2022 14:14

So she's giving money to this online guy?

ShirleyPhallus · 09/05/2022 14:15

She met this guy online 6 months ago and they’re already in a proper relationship despite never meeting which to me is a red flag in itself and because they’re now a “couple”, they’re sharing finances, online banking details, looking at homes etc. He’s also been love bombing her / future faking in my opinion.

WTAF. Your friend is an idiot

Daisycrown · 09/05/2022 14:20

No... just no....to absolutely everything.

chisanunian · 09/05/2022 14:23

To be honest, I'm gobsmacked at her stupidity. How much of her money has he had already?

twntho · 09/05/2022 14:27

ShirleyPhallus · 09/05/2022 14:15

She met this guy online 6 months ago and they’re already in a proper relationship despite never meeting which to me is a red flag in itself and because they’re now a “couple”, they’re sharing finances, online banking details, looking at homes etc. He’s also been love bombing her / future faking in my opinion.

WTAF. Your friend is an idiot

She's not an idiot she's vulnerable.

Newmum1998 · 09/05/2022 14:32

Maybe encourage your friend to do a clare’s law check on the guy or you could contact the police and do it yourself?

Has your friend ever been in touch with women’s aid? I’m just asking as you said she had been in a number of abusive relationships (which is very common btw to go from one abuser to another)

Do you think she would consider doing the freedom programme? I’m doing it at the moment as I just left an abusive relationship and it’ll help her spot the red flags in future relationships