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Primary School pizza

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orchardgirl4 · 05/05/2022 19:31

My child's school has arranged a pizza day as a school trip for year R (4 and 5 year olds). They had a pizza activity day at school a few months ago, and a couple of months before that the school catering company had a pizza day. With junk food advertising just announced, by UK gov, to be banned before 9pm and childhood obesity rates at 25.5% of children by end of year 6 and 15.4% overweight, I am quite cross and fed up of pizza being normalised and hyped up by the school. I want them to instead take the opportunity to cook a healthy dish, or look at and taste different seasonal veg and fruit.
If I complain to the school, is this an overreaction on my part? Would it make it difficult to have conversations with my child's teacher in future, having complained? Or am I ahead of the learning curve (I work with type 2 diabetic patients so I am very aware) and I should pull them up on this?

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stuntbubbles · 05/05/2022 20:35

StridTheKiller · 05/05/2022 20:34

Normalise? Is pizza a gateway drug? To what exactly?

Doughballs

LostSocksBrigade · 05/05/2022 20:36

The school will also likely be tasting fruits and vegetables in class, learning healthy habits as part of the normal school day etc anyway? We do, usually worked around the topic/curriculum. I'd hardly begrudge them a fun trip, not to mention most trips are MEANT to be a treat, moderation is key here.

bellac11 · 05/05/2022 20:36

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/05/2022 20:29

Obesity rates are low in Italy. Where I can tell you, pizza is very normalised.

In Italy at home food is taught and enjoyed and treated with the love and respect it deserves. Simple ingredients, with actual names. Including pizza. Maybe do that and let the school do what they do.

Lower than the UK but are considered a major health issue and increasing all the time

Im not arguing against pizza however, just correcting that myth about Italian weight issues

Itsmythreadandilldeleteifiwantto · 05/05/2022 20:38

I can't get over the idea of normalising pizza.

Pizza is not something that should ever be normalised, and it's definitely a good idea to mention this to the school.

BathshebaKnickerStickers · 05/05/2022 20:38

I’ve taken classes to Pizza Express a number of times and it’s brilliant

orchardgirl4 · 05/05/2022 20:38

Thanks again all. I feel terrible, lol, and daft, but I am much appreciative of the few posts that understood where I was coming from.

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Prettypussy · 05/05/2022 20:39

orchardgirl4 · 05/05/2022 20:17

Thanks all. I do agree about picking what I ought to complain about, and I'm glad I've paused to consider more perspectives!
The reason I think pizza is unhealthy is because it is usually made with white flour, which is quickly converted into sugar when digested, spiking blood sugar levels. The amount of veg with a pizza is usually quite minimal, hardly a portion. Incidentally, pizza is offered at lunch time most weeks, sometimes in disguise (e.g. loaded flatbread... a bread base with cheese and tomato).

Gosh- do you really always worry about your children's blood sugar spikes and fear them eating anything not made with whole grains? You have food issues!

LittleBearPad · 05/05/2022 20:41

Grin You’re going to be ‘that parent’ OP.

You will give the staff room a laugh until one of the very busy teachers has to write a response.

bellac11 · 05/05/2022 20:42

StridTheKiller · 05/05/2022 20:34

Normalise? Is pizza a gateway drug? To what exactly?

Hot dogs in a bun with friend onions

AND CHIPS!!!

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/05/2022 20:42

They're still low for an OECD country @bellac11 Regardless of their actual rates, that's comparatively low. Which means my point that pizza isn't the issue is true. Every OECD country has issues. But Italy is better than most.

Crunchymum · 05/05/2022 20:44

100% agree with advising type 2 diabetics to avoid pizza.

Not so much school kids (who should all have a balanced and healthy diet)

strawberriesarenot · 05/05/2022 20:45

stuntbubbles · 05/05/2022 20:19

I am quite cross and fed up of pizza being normalised
Bloody hell hope no one tells you about Italy.

😂

iggybop · 05/05/2022 20:47

Come on OP

Kids need to grow up enjoying a range of food.

Not fads, not worrying about their weight. But understanding

A good balance. They need to learn what is healthy, make sensible choices, enjoy treats but know when to stop

It's bread; tomato, cheese, veg and meat

Totally normal

Pinkflipflop85 · 05/05/2022 20:47

Please complain.

It will give the staff a much needed laugh.

MargaretThursday · 05/05/2022 20:48

My dm had a thing about using wholegrain flour because it was healthier. She even did in pancakes.

Left me with food issues and I wouldn't touch the stuff now. I think I'd have far less food issues if she'd done us a normal white flour pizza from time to time.

Anyway I think they should look to the school lunches of the 80s and do a day where they get given a bag of crisps and tartrazine coloured drink for break, smash and sausages with bakes beans followed by cake with icing and sprinkles washed down with a couple of glasses of squash, and a bag of penny sweets to eat on the way home.
They can call it history if they like.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 05/05/2022 20:53

@orchardgirl4 have you looked at the school catering company pizza recipe online/asked for it??Ours has grated veg in the dough, hidden veg in the sauce and cheese and veg toppings. No meat.

The Pizza Express/Pizza Hut activity is great fun abs the kids get a great a great sense of achievement. I went with DD’s school abs subsequently took my Cubs. DD’s class also then leBt about food miles for everything on the pizza and did abs assembly about it, grew tomatoes in class and visited a local dairy farm who make cheese. I thought it was a pretty good topic.

Omega33 · 05/05/2022 20:53

I'd be much more worried about a child growing up in a home where pizza mustn't be "normalised" than about a child eating pizza 3 times in 6 months.

Home/school-made pizzas aren't like the greasy things you get in Pizza Hut. And even if they were, that's not a problem as part of an otherwise healthy, balanced diet.

Jellycatz · 05/05/2022 20:53

At my sons school they can’t have a kitkat in their packed lunch yet every Friday there is a PTA cake sale!

Overthewine · 05/05/2022 20:56

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MissusMaisel · 05/05/2022 20:57

Pizza is already normal and its not junk food.

I bet you're fun at parties

AlasEarwacs · 05/05/2022 20:59

Oh for fucks sake Hmm.
Keep your child off school if it's such an issue for you that they are having a fucking pizza. You do know that when they go to uni they'll just go for all the things you won't let them have now so pizza every day

Please get a massive grip

AlasEarwacs · 05/05/2022 21:00

@orchardgirl4 it's pizza not heroin

fionaapple · 05/05/2022 21:00

oh get over yourself fgs

tkwal · 05/05/2022 21:03

Pizza, like most other things is fine as long as its an occasional meal. Thin base, squashed tomatoes , decent mozzarella and a splash of olive oil (real pizza !) Is a treat usually served with a lovely rainbow salad for me. And I am a well controlled type 2 diabetic. Nothing should be completely demonised or banned, rather consumers should be educated in how to combine foodstuffs to enjoy a balanced diet. The real baddies in the food stories are transfats, hidden sugars and corn syrup combined with a more sedentary life style

OMG12 · 05/05/2022 21:04

Oh God, not pizza! Oh the horror. Tbh you’re probably creating much more damage round attitude to food, than a couple of pizzas ever could.

carry on like that once your kid leaves home they’ll be living off junk food. Learning to make healthy choices requires being presented with a choice!