DP starts new job day before his new payday

[Rainbowrocket]

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So my DP starts his new job on Monday, which is the 25th.
Its a school and in his contract it states that his wages will be paid on the 26th of each month.

Am I right in assuming that he won’t be paid until the 26th May?

His last pay from his previous job was 15th April, so that leaves us quite short for bills and living costs etc if it will be end of May.

Can anyone who has worked in pay-roll or even better local government / local authority pay for schools help?

Thanks.

The payroll deadline will have passed before he starts, so I’d imagine he’s not getting paid til May. It’s only a day’s pay anyway though because they pay in arrears.

If everything had been completed correctly he would be paid on 26th for 25-30th April.

However, this is public sector we’re talking about so I’d say he probably won’t get anything until May. If it’s going to leave you short I’d make sure he talks to the right people to make sure everything goes through ok.

I do payroll and it’s very unlikely he will be paid next week. I imagine it’s already with the bank being processed. Even if he was he would only be paid for a few days at most?

Yes he will be paid end of May.

Surely he will have his 'month in hand' from his last job though?

@Rainbowrocket Why would you expect him to get any pay on Monday, when he won't have earned anything?

Eh ??

He will only be short for four days?

His last pay from his previous job was 15th April

but it will include pay until his last working day, presumably today.

Yes, payroll is all wrapped up before pay day, so it will be May, but even if there were some way of getting round it, surely it would only be for one days work anyway, so not enough to make a difference?

It depends when he was set up on payroll. If it was before the deadline, (which will vary according to which payroll provider they use) he'll be paid on 26th until the end of the month. If it wasn't, he'll have to wait till next month. Either way, it's only a few days' pay.

Payroll would usually be set up as soon as the formalities are completed where I work, so it is possible he'll be paid this month.

If it matters, he should ask, they won't mind.

I do payroll and in a case like this we would offer a salary advance if necessary

What difference would a day's pay have made?

He shouldn't be that short then if he's starting the day after pay day, it'll only be one day short

So either aprils pay will have included pay up til his leaving date or he will also some pay from his old job on 15th May.
Also very unlikely he’ll be paid one day after starting a new job.

Move all your/his direct debits to the last day of the month to ease the cash flow til he’s paid.

How big a gap was there between leaving his previous job and starting his current one? As surely he'd be getting paid something on the 15th of May as well from his previous employer?

Hi thanks for replies.

So when he got his pay on the 15th (last week) he got less than usual, he thought that’s because he hadn’t worked the whole month, but his last day’s work was officially today although it’s the Easter holidays, so I don’t understand really.

presumably the pay is for the calender month, so he would be due one weeks's salary for April.
Generally, payroll takes a week (sometimes two, depends on the organisation) to prepare, check, authorise, submit payments to the bank - even the bank instructions would have been submitted by now. - so yes, too late.
Generally in private organsiations or charities, as a Finance Director I have either offered or agreed to if requested, a salary advance for someone in this situation. The net would be around the net amount that would be due for April, that would be deducted from the May salary. - But there is no requirement on an organisation to do this.
Does your partner have any holiday pay due that will be included with the salary for the job he is leaving? That could make his pay a bit higher than normal.

I actually work in this area and I have never seen a payroll that runs a period of payroll date to payroll date. In every one I've worked with, each period is a mix of arrears (days worked before the payday) and advance (days from payday to the end of the period). Of course adjustments are made for joiners/leavers, but I've never seen the period run (say 26th-26th) - is that what you are saying?

Very unlikely to be one day's pay - generally pay period will be until end of the month.

I have had pay that did run 25th-25th in the past. I know because I had to find out at one point. But it probably isn’t standard.

it would still be unlikely to be much pay for April when you only start on the 25th whenever you get it, and whatever the period actually is.

My work pays two weeks in advance, two weeks in lieu. So when you leave, it's a smaller salary for the last month generally. So I get paid on 14th, which covers 1-14th and 14th-month end. If I leave on the 14th, I only get 1-14th.

When he's paid, how is it worked out? Is he paid fully in arrears, in advance or a mixture of both?

(Just thinking about why his last pay cheque from old work might have been so reduced)

Usually when paid on 15th, you get paid until end of the month, so this month, his pay on 15th will be for 1-25th rather than 1-30th. Does that work out?

cross posted about the holiday pay - sorry! I guess in a school, ir working term time hours, holiday isn't quite the same.
If today is the final date of employment, then that's not quite a full month, hence the salary being lower.
Schools could well have a different calculation, but generally based on the no of working days in the month - worked example attathed. If his next role starts on 25th, the remaining 5 days will be paid by the new employer.