DP starts new job day before his new payday

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So my DP starts his new job on Monday, which is the 25th.
Its a school and in his contract it states that his wages will be paid on the 26th of each month.

Am I right in assuming that he won’t be paid until the 26th May?

His last pay from his previous job was 15th April, so that leaves us quite short for bills and living costs etc if it will be end of May.

Can anyone who has worked in pay-roll or even better local government / local authority pay for schools help?

Thanks.

That 260 calc though widely used is illogical as there aren't the same number of working days in each month. We generally get paid 1/12 of annual salary per month rather than it changing based on the working days in that month.

260 days mean you gain or lose depending on the month you join/leave.

I'm assuming he's not a teacher?

What date did he put for his last day on his resignation? He should be paid until then, which if he had any sense (for pay and continuous service) would be the last day of the holidays.

Sounds like he needs to check with the previous employer when his last day has been recorded and if any leave entitlement was paid - if they've recorded his last day of employment as the last day of term, that could be why his money was down (assuming he was either support or supply, teaching staff have different better terms, support can actually be in debit in terms of holiday entitlement if they haven't worked a full academic year and supply tend to get a slight uplift in their hourly/day rate to allow for not being paid for closures).

However, he won't be paid salary for the new job until the end of next month - payroll generally goes in around the 20th.

DP started around the 10th of the month - early enough to make payroll but just for the time he'd worked. Had it been later on, it would have been rolled over to the following month. It wouldn't have been ideal, but we'd have had to manage.

I used to work in local government, and we got paid on the 15th of the month. You were paid 2 weeks in advance, 2 weeks in arrears, so your DH's April pay, would have covered the whole month he worked, which is why it would have been less. His next pay will be the 26th May for his new job, which will presumably cover all of may, plus the extra 5 days he'll have worked in April.

I would go back to old company and query old payslip. Did they only pay him till 15th.

when you get paid on 15th of the month you area actually being paid for the calendar month - not the 15th - the 15th

I work in payroll and have confused people all the time

So your boyfriend is only being paid in old job for like 20 days or whatever amount he worked this month so that would be right

I know the 260 days calc isn't completely fair - but is extremely widely used and a decent approximation.
I have prepared or authorised payroll for many organisations, many of those in conjunction with major payroll agencies.
Regardless of the exact methodology used, the OP expects partner to have a weeks pay from the new employer - why would he also get a full months pay from the old one when employment finishes a week before the end of the month?

My brain is frazzled!

He seems to think he’ll get paid on the 26th of this month and it’ll include those 5 days that were missed off his previous one. Because he didn’t work until the end of the month.

Yes he's supoort staff so the pay is poor anyway, I’m worried we will really struggle financially the next month.
His new role is in another school with the same local authority, so I’m hoping it’ll get worked out.

I think his pay was less that normal on the 15th as they paid him until 22nd April rather than the end of April.

When he gets paid on 26th May his pay will be higher than what will become normal as he will be paid for the extra week he’s worked between his start date and month end.

How much pay is he missing? Is it the 5 days to the end of the month or more than that? Remember everyone is worse off this month because of the NI increase.

We would normally offer an advance (private company though).

I don't know if this applies to LEA school employees, but the charity I work for adopts National Joint Council pay scales.
The cost of living increase of 1.75% for 2021-22 (so backdated to April 21) wasn't announced until the end of March. The previous school may have implemented it in April, but if it had, DH would have seen a chunk of backpay in addition to his regular salary.

"The NJC payscales, which are local government payscales resulting from negotiations between the employer and trade union sides of the National Joint Council, have been agreed for the 2021/22 year. The increase is 1.75% on all pay points applicable from 01 April 2021."

The NJC advice was to pay any former employees that aproached the employer and requested the backpay, but the onus was on the employee to do this.
SO - DH could be entitled to 1.75% back pay on all of his earnings from April 2021, IF his role is linked to NJC payscales - he should check his contract of employment or his previous employer. Or Union.

He needs to ask both his old employer and his new employer exactly what the calculations are. Not ‘hope’ - that’s a poor way to figure out important stuff like money to live on.

Even if in the same LA, if they're academies they will have their own payroll - and given the pay dates are different, this is even more likely the case so that doesn't help things.

I would just ask for an advance. I've twice started (non-teaching) jobs v. close to payroll deadlines and there's been no issue at all in getting an advance, I think it's a fairly standard process and request.

Op like others say there is a cut off date for pay so yes he got paid on 15th April but cut off may have been 10th say , so he’ll be owed pay from then till his last day including holidays he’s owed on next pay day . And yes the new pay day for new place will be end of may so you’ll be no worse off . That’s what’s happened to me anyway when I’ve changed jobs .