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When people "pop up" uninvited

48 replies

browniesandcakes · 21/04/2022 21:26

When people pop up to your home uninvited, how do you get rid of them?

How do you end conversations with people politely when they keep turning up uninvited and not respecting boundaries when I've asked them to let me know beforehand.

AIBU in thinking this is rude?

Thank you 

OP posts:
ImInStealthMode · 21/04/2022 21:28

The age old suggestion. Keep a coat behind the door and put it on before you answer.

'Oh sorry, bad timing, I'm just popping out! No, no, won't be back for a while. Maybe next time' and repeat until they get the message.

browniesandcakes · 21/04/2022 21:29

Great idea! What do you suggest if I'm out in the garden doing jobs?

OP posts:
Maybeitstimeforachange · 21/04/2022 21:30

Just don’t let them in. My OH hates it (people get the message eventually).

doggiescats · 21/04/2022 21:30

I have a couple of good friends who occasionally will knock if passing by.
If it’s not convenient to invite them in I just tell them …it really isn’t a problem!

ItsDinah · 21/04/2022 21:32

I take jacket,keys and bag out into the garden with me !

UrsulaBursula · 21/04/2022 21:34

Just don’t open the door…

SarahSissions · 21/04/2022 21:34

When they arrive just say at the start “how lovely to see you, I do need to pop out in 5 minutes- let’s put a date in the diary for a proper natter”

browniesandcakes · 21/04/2022 21:40

Good suggestions. I think it's hard if I'm out in the garden and half way through a job, but will learn to be more confident

OP posts:
42isthemeaning · 21/04/2022 21:42

This reminds me of a friend who used to actually be invited for a coffee in the morning and would still be here at 9pm. I avoided having her around after that. She turned up unexpectedly a couple of times and I actually had to literally go out or she'd have been here all evening again. Hints didn't work. She even did this on the phone and I used to say I need to go now, nature calls, etc and she'd say oh I'll just ring you back after you've been for a pee! Funnily enough I rarely see her much these days and to be fair she was a lovely, funny friend but I couldn't cope with the all day and all night coffees.

Angrywife · 21/04/2022 21:51

browniesandcakes · 21/04/2022 21:29

Great idea! What do you suggest if I'm out in the garden doing jobs?

Stay in the garden doing jobs, chat to them If they stay but don't invite them in. When you're done, tell them it's been great to see them but you need to get on and you'll call them/ text soon/ whatever you'd usually do.

Turning up unannounced is the height of rudeness, I hate it, so don't worry about upsetting them cos they haven't worried about your feelings!

SquirrelG · 21/04/2022 22:00

Another one of these weird threads! People here still pop in to see other people - what we do is welcome them, offer them a coffee, and sit and chat!

TulipsHere · 21/04/2022 22:04

@ImInStealthMode

The age old suggestion. Keep a coat behind the door and put it on before you answer.

'Oh sorry, bad timing, I'm just popping out! No, no, won't be back for a while. Maybe next time' and repeat until they get the message.

My grandma would always answer the door in her coat and hat. If it was someone she didn't want to see she would say 'sorry, I'm just in my way out' if I was a friend 'hello;l( I've just got in, come in'
TulipsHere · 21/04/2022 22:05

If it was a friend 'hello, I've just got back, come in'

SeedyBloomer · 21/04/2022 22:55

YANBU. If polite requests haven’t done the job then you don’t have a choice except to be firm if you want this to stop. “Sorry, but now isn’t a good time because I’m busy. Could you arrange a time for visits, like I asked?” Some idiots people don’t understand hints or etiquette.

KettrickenSmiled · 21/04/2022 23:10

browniesandcakes · 21/04/2022 21:40

Good suggestions. I think it's hard if I'm out in the garden and half way through a job, but will learn to be more confident

YANBU, & well done on your resolve. You might enjoy this confidence-boosting book - www.amazon.co.uk/Woman-Your-Own-Right-Assertiveness/dp/0704334208

How do you end conversations with people politely when they keep turning up uninvited and not respecting boundaries when I've asked them to let me know beforehand.
You are confusing "being polite" with "wishing to maintain a boundary but feeling undermined by someone not respecting it, so not knowing how to remain assertive while avoiding confrontation".

Don't worry - most of us have been there, it gets easier with practice (& a doddle once the people-pleasing oestrogen starts running out ...)

When you establish a boundary - let's randomly choose "please call before you pop round", it is up to you to maintain that boundary when the other person fails to respect it.
By letting the poppers-in over the threshold, you are showing them that your boundary wasn't strong enough, & they will blithely assume (because it suits their nefarious pop-in agenda, the scoundrels) that it's all ok because you didn't really mean it. Or forget that you did say it. Or just behave how they want to, because they do remember, but have no respect for you, or think their wishes over-ride yours.

So you are going to have to brace yourself, & maintain the boundary by not letting the poppers-in who have already been told to not stop fucking popping in get away with it.
So simple - but I appreciate - not easy the first time.
"Jane, as I said last week, it's best to call before you pop in, so you don't waste your journey - it's not convenient now but text me & we'll make a date for next week."
Then say goodbye AND SHUT THE DOOR.

When they push back (they will, because they are used to ignoring your request, & you are used to caving in) with the expected "Oh I'll only be 10 minutes / but I'm here now / you don't look busy / why can't you drop your plans & give me your attention immediately / insert assorted bullshit here -
RESIST THE URGE TO JADE
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'Just repeat - "it's a shame, but as I said, it's best to call ahead as I don't have time right now, gotta dash, see you soon BYE" & SHUT THE DOOR.
Preferably with them on the other side of it - you're not THAT unassertive are you? - you've certainly been brave enough to speak up once by asking them to stop with the popping already 😀

You just need to take that initial speaking up to the next level - by insisting that your boundary is maintained.
You cannot passively hope that other people will respect it, fudge the issue by giving in & letting them get away with their bloody popping, seethe inwardly but allow it to keep happening.
I know - they will push back. They might not like it.
But do you know - that is absolutely not your problem?
You cannot allow your fear of pushback to be greater than your perfectly reasonable wish to have your boundary respected. So speak up!

One of the main elements of genuine, non-confrontational assertiveness is deciding that only you are responsible for your feelings, only you can speak up to erect & maintain your boundary, & that other people's feelings about that are not your responsibility.

Here's a visual that helped me:
Imagine your boundary is a literal brick wall.
Decide where it is going to go.
Build it up brick by brick.
Stand back & admire it. What a thing to behold!
When another person wanders by, & they don't see your boundary - it's down to you to let them know it's there. Just like you did when you asked your poppers to message/ring before popping.
If that person refuses to believe you, or disses your magnificent hand-built wall - your job is NOT to stand on the other side of it, listening to them nag or berate you for having a wall.
Your job is to walk firmly away, leaving their blustering disbelief about the wall far in the distance, where you cannot hear it, & do not have to concern yourself with it.
THAT is what your wall does for you.

You may feel uncomfortable the first few times as you walk away & hear the echoes of their discontented "by whhhhhhyyyyy can't I ignore your wall as usual?"
You'll soon get over it, & enjoy the bliss of saying what you mean, expecting it to be heard, & leaving anyone who can't get over themselves about it firmly on the other side of the wall, where they can no longer mither you.

Enjoy the book - it's an oldie but goodie Flowers

KettrickenSmiled · 21/04/2022 23:15

ItsDinah · 21/04/2022 21:32

I take jacket,keys and bag out into the garden with me !

Good grief - genuinely?

Would it not be a great deal less arseache to just to Use Your Words?

KettrickenSmiled · 21/04/2022 23:20

SquirrelG · 21/04/2022 22:00

Another one of these weird threads! People here still pop in to see other people - what we do is welcome them, offer them a coffee, and sit and chat!

That's lovely for you. And not weird at all.

Neither is it weird to not be you, & not welcome unscheduled popping.

But as you are gung-ho enough about being welcoming to pop in here just to call OP's thread weird - maybe you'll allow her to give her unwelcome poppers your address, so they can bother you instead? You can offer them coffee, & sit & chat! You're happy, OP's happy, & the poppers are entertained & welcomed - it's a win/win all round!

mowly77 · 21/04/2022 23:33

@KettrickenSmiled said it all brilliantly.

I have this problem with one friend who just doesn’t get it. If I ignore her text messages she comes round anyway. She did tonight! I am seriously ill and do not want visitors. I simply Do. Not. Let. Her. In. EVER. Maybe one day the novelty of standing on a cold doorstep while I glower at her from behind a sliver of front door will wear off. Although I’m not counting on it.

SquirrelG · 22/04/2022 04:15

@KettrickenSmiled I still think it is weird, and for someone reading this thread (and the numerous others on MN on a regular basis) from overseas anyone would think Brits are the most unwelcoming people on the planet!!! How bloody difficult is it to stop and chat for a while with someone who pops in? I can't beleive the people who insist their family make an appointment to visit - it's ridiculous.

fossilsmorefossils · 22/04/2022 04:22

@SquirrelG

Another one of these weird threads! People here still pop in to see other people - what we do is welcome them, offer them a coffee, and sit and chat!
You're one if those people, aren't you? Some of us need to at least mentally schedule in the sit and chat or we won't enjoy it. Some people get energy from meeting up, for other people it is (fun but) draining and therefore it needs to be planned.
fossilsmorefossils · 22/04/2022 04:25

@SquirrelG

@KettrickenSmiled I still think it is weird, and for someone reading this thread (and the numerous others on MN on a regular basis) from overseas anyone would think Brits are the most unwelcoming people on the planet!!! How bloody difficult is it to stop and chat for a while with someone who pops in? I can't beleive the people who insist their family make an appointment to visit - it's ridiculous.
I'm from overseas and I don't think that. I also think that that would be a daft reason to do something you don't want to do.
XDownwiththissortofthingX · 22/04/2022 04:26

When people pop up to your home uninvited, how do you get rid of them?

Easy. You just don't answer the door unless you are expecting a visit. They soon go away.

Indicatrice · 22/04/2022 04:27

I just don’t open the door.

Hoe often are you on the garden? Is it the front or back garden?

Crackersnack · 22/04/2022 04:31

@SquirrelG it is really lovely that you are able to cheerfully stop and chat whenever people pop in. But that really isn't the case for some others who have quite genuine needs for being able to plan their day, and real difficulties in changing their plans at short notice. Lots of people have time pressures every day, even if they wish they didn't. Eg reasons could include caring responsibilities for children or older people, personal physical or mental health issues, employment stress - these things often mean people have stuff that needs to be done that can't easily be done later, and so stopping for a coffee and a chat will have frustrating or just very challenging consequences later on.

And some people are introverted and when they have had too much socialising they really need alone time to recharge.

Everyone is different.

GraceandMolly · 22/04/2022 04:34

Off topic, but who are all these people insisting on visiting unannounced?
I’ve not had a single surprise visit for the last 10 years; people send text messages to check beforehand.

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