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STOP FEEDING HORSES THAT ARE NOT YOURS

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Pineapplechickenpizza · 18/04/2022 21:25

Unbelievable that this is still a problem after all the hype on social media and the news but unfortunately it is.

Why do people think it’s acceptable to feed an animal that isn’t there’s? I don’t care if it’s an apple or carrot or just a few blades of grass. They’re not your horses- DONT FEED THEM ANYTHING.

If you feed horses in fields that are not yours, honestly, why do you do it?? Do you realise how your ignorance could make someones horse unwell?

Dreading summer holidays when more people are out for walks and think it’s acceptable to feed the horses in the fieldsSad

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fairylightsandwaxmelts · 19/04/2022 16:40

[quote lameasahorse]@fairylightsandwaxmelts ah apologies[/quote]
No worries :) it's a very fast-moving thread!

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ArcheryAnnie · 19/04/2022 16:40

The problem is that "the countryside" is a woking place, not a leisure opportunity

A number of things:

  • there aren't all that many rights of way, compared to the number of fields. Its not as if this applies to every field, ffs, just a very few.
  • people who work in the countryside also live in the countryside. It's not just annoying townies who need to get around - unless you want to drive absolutely everyone into a car for every journey, and extinguish ancient rights. (And some people living in the countryside will also have dogs - leashed, or course, if they aren't working dogs)
  • sometimes the leisure opportunities are part of what makes the countryside a working landscape. Tourism is an essential part of many rural areas. There will be people hiking and using rights of way, whether you like it or not. Some of them will have (leashed) dogs, too.

These all-or-nothing declarations help nobody. It remains silly to suggest that keeping large dangerous animals away from the general public is to kill all of the large dangerous animals.

So much of these 25 pages of comments have emphasised how dangerous horses can be if interacted with. I believe you all! That's why I was asking questions on what the solutions are. My solution - as many of you also seem keen on - is not to have horses and the general public share a field, without a fence or two between them.

VeryLongBeeeeep · 19/04/2022 16:44

There are far fewer instances of walkers being killed or injured by horses in the field they're crossing than there are of horses being killed or enduring life-altering colic surgery by people feeding them crap that makes them seriously ill.

ArcheryAnnie · 19/04/2022 16:49

@VeryLongBeeeeep

There are far fewer instances of walkers being killed or injured by horses in the field they're crossing than there are of horses being killed or enduring life-altering colic surgery by people feeding them crap that makes them seriously ill.
Eh? Did I just read that right?

Horses and the general public shouldn't mix without supervision, which is what we all seem to agree on. There isn't a number of "acceptable" deaths or serious injuries amongst humans, and keeping the two groups apart would lower - as this whole thread argues - the number of painful illnesses and deaths amongst horses, too.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 19/04/2022 16:52

- there aren't all that many rights of way, compared to the number of fields. Its not as if this applies to every field, ffs, just a very few.

Yes, so what's the fuss then?

- people who work in the countryside also live in the countryside. It's not just annoying townies who need to get around - unless you want to drive absolutely everyone into a car for every journey, and extinguish ancient rights. (And some people living in the countryside will also have dogs - leashed, or course, if they aren't working dogs)

I don't care. Anyone who uses a facility has the responsibility to know what they are doing before they get there. Countryside Code films are needed again, it seems. Good old Howard and Petunia!

- sometimes the leisure opportunities are part of what makes the countryside a working landscape. Tourism is an essential part of many rural areas. There will be people hiking and using rights of way, whether you like it or not. Some of them will have (leashed) dogs, too.

Again, if you can know your 'rights' you can also learn your responsibilities. Which is what many horse, sheep, other livestock owners ask for year in year out!

These all-or-nothing declarations help nobody. It remains silly to suggest that keeping large dangerous animals away from the general public is to kill all of the large dangerous animals.

As silly as it is to suggest that animals should be kept off grazing fields, or asking for fenced corridors?

So much of these 25 pages of comments have emphasised how dangerous horses can be if interacted with. I believe you all! That's why I was asking questions on what the solutions are. My solution - as many of you also seem keen on - is not to have horses and the general public share a field, without a fence or two between them.

And the law is otherwise for simple reasons. The practical solution for you is not to walk over a right of way of it contains an animal you don't like the look of. Same for anyone else using a right of way. If it is an onconvenience then that is sad. But better that than harm to you or the livestock.

It really does boil down to the fact that the countryside is a workplace. One where leisure pursuits come into close contact with farming. And whilst farmers make as many concessions as they deem fit, practical. necessary, cost effective, there will always be times when a hiker, walker, stroller through the fields doesn't undertsand what is actually happening. That's when the problems start. It's an empty field of grass - have a picnic in the middle, walk your dogs, play with your kids? I've seen that happen too often. That's one farmer's winter feed fucked. Thousands of pounds worth of grass destroyed, flattened, contaminated.

The balance between leisure tourism and farming economics is not for the leisure industry/individual users to decide., It is for the farmer to make their cost benefit analysis and accommodate what they can. Including statutory rights of way!

So when someone using agricultural land for agircultral purposes says "Stop doing that" just stop!

fairylightsandwaxmelts · 19/04/2022 16:52

there aren't all that many rights of way, compared to the number of fields. Its not as if this applies to every field, ffs, just a very few.

Yes, but not all fields can be used for keeping livestock. If a farmer owns land and has say, ten fields, it could be that only three of them are suitable for livestock and if they all have rights or way through them, then they don't have much choice in the matter.

Lots of land is privately owned and not available for rent or use by farmers or livestock owners.

Many fields areneeded for arable farming and therefore can't be used for livestock either.

Lots of fields will be inappropriate for livestock for various reasons - too steep, too muddy, a flood risk, or they grow inappropriate crops etc.

The countryside is primarily a workplace, not a tourist attraction. The tourists are secondary and should only be enjoying the countryside if they're going to be responsible and are willing to follow the law.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 19/04/2022 16:53

Horses and the general public shouldn't mix without supervision, which is what we all seem to agree on. There isn't a number of "acceptable" deaths or serious injuries amongst humans, and keeping the two groups apart would lower - as this whole thread argues - the number of painful illnesses and deaths amongst horses, too.

Oh for god's sake!!

Butchyrestingface · 19/04/2022 16:54

@userxx

Not a chance l'm putting my fingers near those oversized gnashers.
That has always been my thought and why I've never even fed a donkey in a petting zoo where you can specifically buy stuff to feed it.

I like having hands.

lameasahorse · 19/04/2022 16:55

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quicklybeingdrivenmad · 19/04/2022 16:56

Nobody should ever feed anyone elses animals, we moved our horse (lucky we could do that) to a paddock within a large field off the beaten track got totally sick off people feeding him and on at least two occasions people attempting to ride him without saddle, bridle or reins and then kicking off when he threw them off, sorry some people are stupid
@Pineapplechickenpizza totally get where you are coming from

lameasahorse · 19/04/2022 16:58

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fairylightsandwaxmelts · 19/04/2022 17:00

@lameasahorse

"And whilst farmers make as many concessions as they deem fit, practical. necessary, cost effective..."

No it is not up to farmers to decide, there are laws around this to protect public rights of way. And it is not a concession. If you buy land with a public right of way you are not doing people a favour by letting them walk over that land. They have a legal right to.

Correct, but farmers only have to make the right of way visible and accessible.

They don't have to build fences or divide their land so that people using the right of way aren't anywhere near their livestock.

They have to make sure the public is safe, but that doesn't have to involve fencing or physical barriers.

Polkadotties · 19/04/2022 17:03

@lameasahorse

A horse with laminitis should be box rested so should not be in a field.
Yes while they are having a lami flare up. A horse or pony susceptible to lami should not be kept on box rest permanently, that is incredibly cruel
SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 19/04/2022 17:04

@lameasahorse

"And whilst farmers make as many concessions as they deem fit, practical. necessary, cost effective..."

No it is not up to farmers to decide, there are laws around this to protect public rights of way. And it is not a concession. If you buy land with a public right of way you are not doing people a favour by letting them walk over that land. They have a legal right to.

Try reading that again. I didn't say that a farmer could override a right of ay. Far from it, I acknowledged that fact! It would b epointless not to!

Having said that, I can see that there is a HUGE ambiguity in that last sentence. My apologies.

With the exception of rights of way, which are legal obligations, farmers make as many concessions as they deem fit, practical. necessary, cost effective, according to their own business plan not the whims and often uninformed requests of those hiking across agricultural land.

I hope that is more obvious now!

Bumblebeefriend · 19/04/2022 17:04

Any suggestions for my issue? There are horses which are in a field adjacent to my garden which frequently put their heads over and pull up and eat my plants. Last year we put up posts with barbed wire but they just pushed them over.

fairylightsandwaxmelts · 19/04/2022 17:06

@Bumblebeefriend

Any suggestions for my issue? There are horses which are in a field adjacent to my garden which frequently put their heads over and pull up and eat my plants. Last year we put up posts with barbed wire but they just pushed them over.
Whose fence is it?

I would speak to the horses owner and explain what's happening - it could be that the height of the actual fence needs to be increased so that they can't reach over the top.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 19/04/2022 17:07

@Bumblebeefriend

Any suggestions for my issue? There are horses which are in a field adjacent to my garden which frequently put their heads over and pull up and eat my plants. Last year we put up posts with barbed wire but they just pushed them over.
Have you found out who owns the field and / or horses?

They should be able to put ane electric fence across the bottom of your garden, keep the horses off. It is a simple solution that anyone with a horse, cows etc, should be able to do quickly - probably should have done when they started using the field. Good fences making good neighbours and all that!

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 19/04/2022 17:07

Two solutions in quick succession Smile

lameasahorse · 19/04/2022 17:08

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Maestoso · 19/04/2022 17:08

@Bumblebeefriend

Any suggestions for my issue? There are horses which are in a field adjacent to my garden which frequently put their heads over and pull up and eat my plants. Last year we put up posts with barbed wire but they just pushed them over.
Leave a note on the gate for the owner. Ask if they could electric fence off a couple of foot from your fence to stop the horses putting their heads over. Alternatively, horses tend to push against things with their chest, having already got their head a neck over. Putting up high strands of fencing, preventing them from getting their head a neck over, will stop them from pushing.
tigger1001 · 19/04/2022 17:08

@MadameHeisenberg

And did I seriously read on this thread that someone can't afford a horse if they can't afford the vet fees to deal with the idiots who feed it wrong food and cause injury???

Christ Almighty. This is absolutely obvious to anyone who isn’t an irresponsible moron of a pet owner. Yes.

If you can’t afford void periods, you can’t afford to be a landlord. If you can’t afford road tax, you can’t afford to be a car owner. And if you can’t afford medical treatment for your horse when it gets sick (irrespective of how or why it got sick), then you can’t afford to have a horse.

Christ almighty indeed!

How about if cctv captures people feeding animals then they are responsible for the vet fees?? Just don't feed an animal, any animal , that isn't yours. It really is just that simple.

oakleaffy · 19/04/2022 17:10

@Bumblebeefriend

Any suggestions for my issue? There are horses which are in a field adjacent to my garden which frequently put their heads over and pull up and eat my plants. Last year we put up posts with barbed wire but they just pushed them over.
Maybe grow a natural hedge. Barbed wire is unsightly and dangerous to horses- but isn’t a deterrent. Get the owners to put an electric tape fence at least a metre inside their field.
Iamsosadijustwantout · 19/04/2022 17:14

It's a fu@ForeverLookinghave caught them feeding them ) doughnuts.. Yorkshire puddings left over from Sunday lunch.. Cake.. Bread.. Polo mints😬.. Old boiled veg:ie carrots/potatoes/cabbage etc etc etc..old grass clippings.. Old veg peelings. Its awful😢 I wouldn't feed you cats/dogs crap so please don't feed my horses crap! I have fell out with so many of the village idiots when I shout and swear at the silly buggers when I catch them.. Fu%king idiots!.. I am going to sue and send the hugh vet bills to anyone caught on my cameras feeding them from now!.. I would never feed cats/dogs that never belonged to me!

Bumblebeefriend · 19/04/2022 17:16

Thank you everyone for the suggestions! I don't want to cause problems for the horses so will think it over. I like the idea of a natural hedge.