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Shall I live with In Laws? Happy but conflicted :(

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Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 05:55

Hello Lovely People!! I hope everyone is well. First time on this forum and goodness gracious me, reason why is because I think my overthinking is going to end up turning me absolutely insane. I am thinking let me try my luck here for some advice. Honestly nothing too serious has happened here its just that I am super scared for my future.

I am getting married next year. I am quite conflicted on living with my in laws. My future husband before proposing to me asked me whether I would want to live with family or live with my in laws. He is super open and flexible with everything. I discussed this with my mum and she convinced me to stay with in laws. She said its nice to live with family for a few years and it will help us a lot in terms of money. We live in London and the rent / house prices are ridiculous. My future husbands family has their own place which means we will be saving a lot of money. Our main plan is to live with in laws for a few years and then move out and put down a deposit for our own home. I've been working full time for 2 years and will continue to do so after marriage. He recently just got a job after his graduation and is new to his role and needs some more time to become stable. He offered to me if I would want to live alone a few times however I decided to take my mums advice and told him I think its better we stay with your family for a bit so we can save up money and get our own place (I am thinking long term). Also we will be able to save a lot of money and can use that money elsewhere in which we can go on holidays and lots of date nights. My only issue is I don't know if I'm living in a fairyland world. Will that actually happen? So far his parents are super chill and his mum seems really nice too. I get along really well with both my future FIL and future MIL. They are so kind and generous but mind you I don't live with them. I always hear horror stories and it really gets to my mind of how the in laws are nice at first and after marriage they change. Same with sister in laws. I've discussed things previously on how I don't want to be abused and mistreated by his family and he has assured to me that would never happen. My question is, am I doing the right thing? How can I remove the fear of me living with my in laws. Even in my own home sometimes I do feel really suffocated and I am the eldest daughter and I am always expected to cook and clean. I am also studying for an extra qualification which makes it tough as it is and I have to revise, work full time and manage my home. Of course I want to help out and I want to help my in laws in the future too but sometimes it is just too overbearing. It does drive me absolutely insane.

Recently my sister in law has been divorced and has moved back in he family. My sister in law is really nice but it is another thing that also scares me. Will this affect my marriage? Again its the stories you hear. I've heard so many stories of SILs and MILs making the DILs life miserable cause they are jealous. I don't see it happening but it makes me super paranoid. I want to be positive but I can't seem to get the negativity out of my head. Because of this my future in laws are now creating an extra space for me and my future husband to reside in which is really nice of them. So I am thinking I will get more privacy than before. My future husband still offers to me that we can move out he will just need more time to become stable however I don't want to pressure him / put any financial burden on him as he is so new his role too. I want to be a good partner and support him. Also I want to make it halal (since I am a Muslim young female) as soon as possible so I don't want that to be a reason to delay marriage even more.

I am just scared of privacy. Intimacy. I don't know how my in laws will be after marriage. I don't want them to be super interfering in my marriage same with my sister in laws. I don't want them to expect me to do housework 24/7 when I am 1) working full time, 2) studying as well. I am an independent woman and Alhamdullilah earn money too. Me and my future husband can afford to rent however it just means we won't save as much on the date nights / holidays so that is my compromise I guess. It feels slightly suffocating cause for me marriage is meant to be about freedom. I love my family so much but sometimes in my own house I feel suffocated and after marriage I'm scared living with my in laws I will feel suffocated too. Its so hard for to make a decision I don't know what the right thing is to do. And I know for people to advise my crazy ass will probably be so difficult as well 😭❤️ but would super appreciate what people can do. I'm so scared of my mother in law being nasty to me and making me feel suffocated. She doesn't seem like that at all. I have told her before that my plan is to live with them for a few years and then move out after once we have saved up enough money and she has told me she is completely fine with that and supports us. A lot of my friends have told me to be careful since thats what everyone says at first. Once you start living with them thats when the real faces come out.

I have spoken about many other things with them too. As much as I could. I've laid everything out on the table and my expectations they have agreed to all of them. However are they just saying it? Am I making a mistake? It is a big risk. But putting ourselves in a financial burden can be crazy too. I guess I am scared because I don't ever want to be put in that situation where my in laws will be nasty to me. I don't think my heart could bear it. I'm quite soft hearted, kind and sensitive as it is. Also I feel as if rude in laws would ruin the relationship with my husband and cause a drift which is something I never ever ever want. Especially because of family.

I did receive one red flag ONCE only. I am quite a good cook and baker and make quite a few nice things. In the past I have sent food over to their house and I have been praised a lot for it. One day I sent something over and my future MIL wanted to speak to me. She thanked me for going through the effort of making it. I asked her if she liked it and whether it was nice. She was very quick and snappy to say it was not nice and she didn't like it and that she shouldn't lie. This really hurt my feelings and I know my future husband was super taken back from it too. She also said I made too much and shouldn't have sent a lot because then it will get wasted and would have to go in the bin. My feelings were hurt for days and this caused a slight drift between my future husband and I - as I was super upset and couldn't believe she said that. She then went on to say that it got spoilt because they left it out at night. So I gave her the benefit of the doubt in which she said it probably got ruined cause we left it out at night and didn't put it in the fridge. What hurt me was the way she said. My future husband was defending his mum saying its just feedback and "hey she's like your mother" its not that deep. He said In the future if you don't like my mums cooking or something shes made you can say it too. Look I understand that but heres my thought process: 1) she is not like my mother. 2) If you make something out of love I do feel as if its wrong to make those remarks and things can be said nicely. 3) if I make something and I ask for feedback and my MIL tells me its not nice and could be improved then hey I'm all for it! I think its the way thing are said right. Anyway that was my slight red flag. I didn't want all of the good things that have happened to be forgotten about and allowed those to outweigh this one bad thing and so I decided to resolve the issue. But lowkey in the back of mind I do still think about it. Its made me super paranoid and I decided to be less comfortable with them and more reserved now. I feel as if before I was being way too nice esp with the over giving of food. It really put me off making / sending anything ever again. I'm quite naive and my family say this about me too. They say I need to face reality at times lol. Anyway that was my short side story.

What would everyone advise me doing? I don't want to continuously bring up my concerns with living with in laws repeatedly and annoy my future husband - I have done so to my future husband before and he has reassured me. I do still get extremely scared. I understand that there are benefits such as the holidays and date nights and saving money to get comfortable until we can afford our own place. However I'm so scared. I feel really guilty for feeling like this too because he always tells me how excited his family is especially his mum. His mum cannot wait for me to join the family so she can go out with me and have fun which is really sweet of course. He told me I watch too many dramas and hear too many negative experiences on social media which makes me paranoid but we can't deny the fact it does happen in reality. Hes told me many times his family isn't like that at will and never will be. They will give me my space and my privacy.

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gogohm · 18/04/2022 07:16

I'm guessing you are Asian, it's far more common to live with relatives so you won't get many people understanding the pressure to conform here. My advice is to talk to your fiancé and let him know your fears, suggest that you have a trial of 6 months living with them and if that isn't working it's reevaluated. Nobody knows how it will be once you are all under one roof, your mil could be lovely or turn into the nightmare that you read about

Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 07:19

OperationMincemeat I know I literally beat myself to it all the time 😭 like why am I saying yes? Its because I do understand the pros like saving money etc but people are right. Privacy is absolutely priceless! And nothing will ever beat that. I said yes because my family convinced me its a good idea. The more I have thought about it the more I realise I don't know how I would be able to live or cope. In my family girls that don't live with family are seen as 'bad' and not family oriented. Now I'm thinking is it too late to tell him I don't want to stay with his family now, it will hit him super out of the blue. I'm honestly thinking about how to word it. I think he is quite conflicted too :( I also don't want him to think I am a bad person or just horrible for not living with his family.... I'm not married yet. Still have a year to go !

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OperationMincemeat · 18/04/2022 07:33

I didn't mean to sound so bossy. I do feel for you. I am only saying this because I have been married 25 years so have long experience of this. (We are planning to separate but not because of the inlaws). I understand that girls in your family are seen as "bad", but honestly better be seen as "bad" now and be happy later then wake up 15 years later after you have had children and find it's too late. You will never be more powerful than you are now. You may be less powerful later.

It is a sad fact of life that men change, inlaws change. Everything's rosy now but it may not be later, and you have to look out for yourself.

afternoonteafan · 18/04/2022 07:38

@OperationMincemeat

I didn't mean to sound so bossy. I do feel for you. I am only saying this because I have been married 25 years so have long experience of this. (We are planning to separate but not because of the inlaws). I understand that girls in your family are seen as "bad", but honestly better be seen as "bad" now and be happy later then wake up 15 years later after you have had children and find it's too late. You will never be more powerful than you are now. You may be less powerful later.

It is a sad fact of life that men change, inlaws change. Everything's rosy now but it may not be later, and you have to look out for yourself.

Yes I completely agree with whatever you have said.

OP - maybe just start it with a casual conversation about having your own space etc and see how your partner responds to that. Would you be able to afford to live by yourselves from the start of your marriage?

Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 07:39

@OperationMincemeat - No need to clarify ❤️ Honestly thank you so much for that message. That was super empowering! I will always remember that. "You will never be more powerful than you are now" - "Better to be seen as 'bad' now and be happy later. I'm definitely going to have a discussion with my partner now. I pray all goes well. I think he is going to be hugely disappointed but I can't help how I am feeling. You know what they say about a womans intuition is never wrong. I'm not scared of marrying my finance. I'm scared of living with his family after marriage... that is something which absolutely terrifies me. So I think I am answering to my own issue. I pray all goes well with your shifting!

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LittleRedRidingHood187 · 18/04/2022 07:40

No

Kittromney · 18/04/2022 07:43

OP I’m South Asian too, so I understand the pressure to conform and am not saying this as someone who has no experience in family pressure, especially on girls.

Don’t do it. Not just the in-laws bit. Don’t marry him when you’re so young and naive and don’t know each other well. Wait till you’re older and more established with your career and more confident to deal with bullies. If he sticks around, good, if not, you’ll find someone else when you’re ready. Yes you’ll face abuse from your family and be told that you’re ruining your life. But please stand up for yourself now. You’ll only get one chance.

Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 07:45

Everyone thank you so much for your advice. I think I will go ahead and discuss it with my fiance and see where he is coming from too and look at our options. I've seen some amazing comments such as privacy is priceless. You will never be more powerful than you are now. Wish me luck guys I hope everything does go well. If anyone does have more advice do continue to share I will truly appreciate it. I hope he takes it well I'm super scared 😭💔

I do want to say that yes everyone is right. I am quite young at the moment (23 years of age), I have a great education and nice job. I feel as if I deserve to have my own space and privacy and live my life like an adult and no longer in the supervision of any adults. I want this marriage to grow me and make me into an adult. Not live like children under parents' roof ❤️

Going to be super awkward having those conversations with his family but oh wells. I'll let it be awkward now and explain to them that I want to be independent in our marriage. Would be interesting to see if his parents start to treat my different / be less nice to me if I say I don't want to live with them. Maybe it is a good test ... That would super surprise me considering how lovely they are to me right now and them having said to me that they don't mind me getting my own place after a while.

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Guineapigssweak · 18/04/2022 07:45

Stand on your own two feet. Rent somewhere cheap and save. All this worry and stress is rediculous. Your an adult and don't need to live with anyone apart from your Husband. It's time to grow up and grow a pair.

Flapjak · 18/04/2022 07:48

If you are having doubts, and dont need to do it, dont do it!! When their is a problem, your husband most likely will side with his parents, this will cause resentment, you will never have equal weight in any disagreement as it is not your home. And it will be much more of an insult to move out after six months, than never having moved in the first place.

AtlasPine · 18/04/2022 07:49

@HairyMuttttt

I would trial shared living but agree to review the situation in 6 months and move out if it’s not working well.
I agree with this.
Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 07:54

@afternoonteafan yes I could afford to rent a one bedroom flat and live there with my fiance. It wouldn't be an issue at all with both of our salaries combined. We would just save less money but we wouldn't be in a bad position. I think I will definitely speak about the privacy and space situation

Guineapigssweak - Yes you're absolutely right. Time to be an adult and stand up for myself. No more letting others make my decisions. Let me take risks and prosper 🙌🏼

Flapjak - So true. If I am having doubt should be my sign to stay clear and do what makes me happy and put myself first. Wish me luck 😭

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Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 07:55

And it will be much more of an insult to move out after six months, than never having moved in the first place. - This really hits hard and deep 😭

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Perfectlystill · 18/04/2022 07:57

No way

hungrywalrus · 18/04/2022 08:11

Getting married could be your and your husband’s ticket to freedom to live life as you want to and not to have to bend over to accommodate everyone else’s needs. If you don’t take this chance now, you might not get another soon, unless you relocate.

Don’t make decisions based on fear or what others might say. Eventually they will find someone else to gossip about. You know the drill.

Cr3ateAUsername · 18/04/2022 08:16

I lived with my in laws when I first got married and I can tell you it was the worst couple of years of my life. I just couldn’t relax, I felt like I had no privacy whatsoever. However, you have said you do get on with your in laws so I think that may make a difference? Ultimately you need to do what is going to make you happier in the long run.

mycatisannoying · 18/04/2022 08:19

I didn't read the whole opening post, since it was unnecessarily repetitive, but you are absolutely overthinking this and getting into a state.
All you can do is give the situation a try.

RowanAlong · 18/04/2022 08:22

Trust your instincts, if you already fear interference, you’re probably right - it sounds like you’d get a lot of that!

TweetTweetMF · 18/04/2022 08:24

You want to save money but go on hoildays and lots of date nights? Hmm Surely you'd just be prolonging moving out?

I personally wouldn't live with in laws. It might be great now but give it a few months...

NessieMcNessface · 18/04/2022 08:38

I think you know the answer already; you know you don’t want to live with your in-laws. If your future husband loves you he will understand and accommodate your wishes. If he’s difficult and resistant to them then that is a major red flag for the future. You have to find the strength to follow your own path and not care what people think about you although I recognise that this is very hard when it includes your own mother. To me privacy and independence is everything and is key to your future relationship. I am not Asian but am closely related to someone who is and we have discussed this a lot so I do have some understanding of the pressures you’re under: I hope you are able to make decisions that will ensure your own happiness.

mnnewbie111 · 18/04/2022 08:45

Good god no don't do it! Run

Soyoungmuslimah · 18/04/2022 08:49

@NessieMcNessface

I think you know the answer already; you know you don’t want to live with your in-laws. If your future husband loves you he will understand and accommodate your wishes. If he’s difficult and resistant to them then that is a major red flag for the future. You have to find the strength to follow your own path and not care what people think about you although I recognise that this is very hard when it includes your own mother. To me privacy and independence is everything and is key to your future relationship. I am not Asian but am closely related to someone who is and we have discussed this a lot so I do have some understanding of the pressures you’re under: I hope you are able to make decisions that will ensure your own happiness.
You're so right. Thank you for that message, I needed that. I feel like my OP speaks for itself and I know what will make me happy and will be good for me. I'm just finding it difficult to get the courage to speak up and take a stand for myself. Really appreciate it ❤️
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LaingsAcidTab · 18/04/2022 08:54

Often I've found that posters will put the most important point at the end of their post. That point is a massive red flag and will define your relationship with your in-laws, and even your husband, in key ways if you live together.

Do not move in.

Thedreamer28 · 18/04/2022 09:08

I am Asian myself and I think you really need to sit down and have an open honest conversation with your husband. You need to set some boundaries and stick to them and you both need to be aware of each others feelings and also the feelings of others in the house.

A lot of these problems start when no1 in the house is honest with eachother and also certain expectations aren’t met by the MIL or other family members living with them. You and your husband need to be on the same page about what is expected of you going forward living in that house. For example if you work full time then you can’t be expected to cook and clean every single day for the whole family as you would be exhausted. So everyone should be taking it in turns, it’s only fair.

You need to go in there with an open loving heart with a lot of patience aswell. His M will be of an older generation so will have different expectations maybe so you need to treat her with kindness and love and I am sure she will respond to you the same way.

This is the problem with many Asian households living like this as nothing is dealt with openess and honesty

When my brother got married years ago My SIL lived with my M but she came into the house all secretive and defensive and didn’t have any kindness or thought for anyone but herself.

She stayed in her room all day and didn’t interact with anyone, she didn’t help at all with any of the cleaning or cooking. She literally washed her own spoon but would leave the rest in the sink if there were 1 or 2 dishes in there. She doesn’t treat my M with any respect at all.
Now I could be biased here but my M has never expected my SIL to be some sort of servant in the house, doesn’t even expect her to clean. All she wants is her to be involved in the family and be loving towards the family. My brother had to explain that our family is not what she thinks and he would like her to involve herself more in the family but she has gone in there automatically thinking it’s going to be a certain way when that wasn’t and has never been the case.
It’s hard to watch someone being disrespectful to your M but we have had to stay out of the situation and let my M and brother deal with it.

Over the years she has gotten better and become more involved with the family and realised that not all families are the same and she is very lucky to be in a family like ours who are very easy going and honest and kind. If she had started with having open heart and showed kindness a lot of the issues would be non existent.
When we have visitors in the house all my siblings come together and help out even if we don’t live in the house. All of us are there to help if needed. On Eid we do the same although now we get caterers in as it is easier on everyone. But my parents house is where everyone comes together so we have to make sure to help out.

I will also add that even though my parents would love my brother to stay with them they have always said from the very beginning that they are totally fine if him and his wife decide to move out.

I hope whatever you decide to do you do it with an open heart and have patience. It might not be plain sailing but it is how you handle things. N if you are always respectful then I am hopeful that you will get the same response. You can still be respectful and kind and still get your points and feelings across.

InshaAllah

DFOD · 18/04/2022 09:17

It seems that you have already raised your concerns with your fiancé and he is dismissing / minimising them? But you still have a gut feeling this is wrong?

Have you decided how you will tell him what you want and what you will do if he is difficult about it or says no?

Are you prepared to walk?